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Old 10th February 2003, 07:19   #1  |  Link
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What dvd player do you have, and what are your rip speeds?

I'm in the market for a dvd player to be used just for ripping. the one i have now is only ripping at 2.1x. What are some dvd player that are cheap, and will rip a little faster like 6-8x?
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most of the time, this will not depend on your dvd player, but on your software settings, especially the OS. here, there have been an especially lot of problems with WinXP (some DMA/PIO bug) still there is a workaround for this problem. otherwise i would recommend a pioneer DVD player as i've had very good experiences with them. still that is only my opinion!

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Old 11th February 2003, 00:09   #3  |  Link
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when i'm ripping it says it's in DMA ultra mode. I even tried to delete the ide channel and re install it. My laptop can rip at 3-4x and my desktop at 1.8 - 2x ;[
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ripping speeds with win/2k

OK... I bought a new LiteOn 16X to replace my sony dru500ax as my DVD ripper.

I still am getting max 2.1x rip speeds. checked IDE and it is set to use DMA if available and below in current settings shows Ultra DMA mode.

what's the deal?
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well if it says it's using UDMA, you probably got another problem. try to reconnect your IDe drives in different patterns and, if possible connect the hard disk and the DVD drive to different IDe buses.
also if you have a really slow hard disk, this could be a speed issue, although it should definitely go over 2x !!

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Old 22nd February 2003, 23:17   #6  |  Link
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Pioneer DVD-117G player.

Rips a full DVD, upwards of 9Gb, in about 12-15 minutes .
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Rips a DVD in 12-15 mins DVD-R in around 8 mins
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Old 23rd February 2003, 20:45   #8  |  Link
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my primary master and slave are my harddrives... and are using PIO mode, however my secondary master is the Sony DRU500AX and the secondary slave is the LiteOn DVD ROM.

I will try to switch those two around and make the DVD ROM the master and see if that helps the ripping speeds.
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robster,

You don't want your burner on the same channel as your DVD-ROM. I am betting the burner is UDMA-2 whereas the DVD-ROM is UDMA-3. The channel will only run as fast as the slowest peripheral on the channel, therefore you will be hindering your DVD-ROM.
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I have the Pioneer dvr-105 and it only ripps at 2x. Went out and bought a Samsung 12x solely for ripping and now get 6x ripping speeds.

(It might be 16x, but still haven't figured out. It's been repackaged by Cendyne and you never no what your going to get. Usually better specs.)

The 105 is master and the Samsung is slave....Go figure!
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I Have a Pioneer a05 and a04
they both get 2.1x ripping speed on encrypted disc's
i think its hardware locked
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Old 25th February 2003, 02:35   #12  |  Link
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ok... I pulled out my DVD ROM and DVD writer.. found out that my placement on the cables was backwards.

Even though I had my DVD ROM as a slave, I had it in the middle connection on the ribbon, whereas it should have been connected to the last connection.

I left off my DVD writer, made sure my DVDROM was connected on the proper place on the ribbon (middle).

I rebooted and was able to get about 4.7x rip speed (from a large VOB file), I noticed that it is not sustained when ripping small files. Keeps jumping back and forth from 0 to 2.1x. But, I don't care about that.

I now have on my secondary IDE channel, DVD ROM master, DVD writer as slave and am getting the same results. So, it looks like the placement on the ribbon was a large factor.

I will see if I can goof around with it some more to improve the rip speed.
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Quote:
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my primary master and slave are my harddrives... and are using PIO mode, however my secondary master is the Sony DRU500AX and the secondary slave is the LiteOn DVD ROM.
hi,

pio on hard drives? very bad

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robster,

You don't want your burner on the same channel as your DVD-ROM. I am betting the burner is UDMA-2 whereas the DVD-ROM is UDMA-3. The channel will only run as fast as the slowest peripheral on the channel, therefore you will be hindering your DVD-ROM.
hi,

afaik, this only affects concurrent accesses. if the burner is idle, it doesn't slow the dvd-rom down. i don't know for sure if this is valid for pio<->udma as well, but i'm very sure it is for different udma modes.

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I have a Pioneer-104 Drive that rips DVD9's at 2.1x and DVD5's at 2.9x-3.1x. I've tried to speed it up but it will not listen.
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to post some values:

i have an aopen 1040 pro flashed to a region free pioneer 114 (identical hardware).

non-css dvd: I 09:27:17 Average Read Rate: 8.854 KB/s (6.6x) - Maximum Read Rate: 12.672 KB/s (9.4x)

css dvd: I 20:31:09 Average Read Rate: 6.474 KB/s (4.8x) - Maximum Read Rate: 9.580 KB/s (7.1x)

the non-css dvd was only single-layer so i guess that's why it "ripped" faster. i don't think an athlon 600 is saturated with 9.5M/s descrambling, is it?

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Old 5th March 2003, 12:22   #17  |  Link
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Wow 2x speed then my old samsung SM308B combo drive is faster takes me less then 10m at about 6-8x speed to ripp a DVD.
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Old 6th March 2003, 06:57   #18  |  Link
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Most new DVD drives are limited to 2x ripping. See this article: http://cd-rw.org/news/archive/3537.cfm
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Well I recently Installed an IDE Controller
My Original Setup on which I use to be able to decrypt at around 3-5 speed has remained the same.

All I have done is installed the card, and connected my CDRW Burner to it.

Since its installation my DMA-3 has gone
All my Optical devices only appear as 2.

Now NERO, Imagetool and Windows all Recognise the drive as being DMA enabled.
Yet guess what I can decrypt at now.
A whooping
0.6x
Yes I can decrypt at 800kbx a second
Thats right 800 KILOBYTES a second. So around 3 hrs to decrypt.

I just dont get it nothing has changed only the IDE Controller has been added. The Burners all seem to be going fine, just the ROM Drive decrypts at well atrociously slow rates. And Since then ive reinstalled Windows and same result
Im running XP.

Anythoughts
If it was 2x or something like that id deal. But 0.6x, I think im winning for the lowest decrypting speed ever here.

Any suggestions?
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I use a Toshiba SD-M 1612 and am ripping at 8.9x right now. OK, it seems to be an unencrypted disk, but still...

My system: 2x Deskstar 120GXP in Raid-1
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