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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Norway
Posts: 41
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Windows Media 9 Series is released now
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http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win...r/default.aspx "Compared to xvid, you should be able to get the same quality at roughly half the size, assuming similar encoding params are used for both (no fair testing one in CBR and other in VBR for example). I say "roughly" since your preference for compression artifacts may be different than mine. But you should always be able to beat it in efficiency. " - amir, worker at microsoft, as he told us about the WM9 in September 2002. (source: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=41109 ) Well, doom9, somebody should check this codec out. And give us the important final judgement: Will it fit a 3CD XVID-encoded movie on a 2CD WM9 Encoded Movie like Microsoft brags about? (yeh yeh, i know they say half the size, but nobody believe in that eh?
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 9,770
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the encoder is still only for winxp and 2000! thats why i love m$
thank god that there is Nic's WM9 Encoder |
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Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Brazil
Posts: 337
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Re: Windows Media 9 Series is released now
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Norway
Posts: 41
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Damn i tried this encoding utility. Try converting a file, but it just crashes (or i end up in windows xp desktop again). strange.
I really do think that Microsoft should fix this. All that nice codec programming, and then they destroy it all by hiring some looser to make the Encoding utility. |
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Norway
Posts: 41
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nic, no it was the windows media encoding program.
1. I open Start Menu\Programs\Windows Media\Windows Media Encoder 2. select the convert a file 3. doubleclick on one file oh now i did not get a crash. now it just said something about error in 0x000 (some hex address). stupid program |
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Blah!
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Brazil
Posts: 337
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Then, it's more of a matter to decide which kind of artifact can you stand better. I personally can stand MP3's artifacts better, but I admit there may be some anti-MS bias there. Besides, keep in mind that MS can play dirty here. They can say, "well, our MP3 samples at 128kbps sound surely worse than WMA at 64", but they 'forget' to mention that their samples were encoded with MP3 dist10 code (reference code, terrible quality). I never saw clarified anywhere what MP3 encoder they used for their tests (although I must admit I didn't search much either). It's a problem with open standards, like MP3 (and AAC). There are both excellent encoders (Lame, FhG) and terrible encoders (Xing, Blade, SoloH, Cannamp, 8hz, SCMPX, Plugger...) Quote:
![]() Thanks for the suggestion. Regards; R. Last edited by rjamorim; 8th January 2003 at 02:04. |
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 987
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Oh ho, impressive :O
The new encoder only shuts down every time I try to open a source file to encode. :\... I can't get this encoder to work for crap. I was hoping the final release would work, but I get errors and shut downs every time I try to open something. Guess I'm using Nic's from now on. |
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retired developer
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Canada
Posts: 8,978
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@doom9
Will you do a codec comparison with that new one? Personaly I don,t think I'll ever use WMV9, 1st it's M$, 2nd it's still M$.
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Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 24
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Re: Re: Windows Media 9 Series is released now
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![]() Note of course that this is WMA8, not WMA9, but I haven't noticed any significant improvement in audio quality. Perhaps there has been, in which case I am happy to be enlightened. |
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Chief Inspector
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 246
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Yes, this program crashes when you try to load an avi or mpg file. Once you select it, it crashes and gives you the send/don't send then and reloads the program. The only file you can load is asf, but what's the point of encoding a low res like that again? I'll have to give Nic's a try.
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 486
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Can we trust wm9???
I was sceptical about installing WM9. Worried that it might mess with video/audio setups, ripping capability and report OS details back to M$. Now I have it installed my PC is doing strange things. Whenever I go to play online content, it tries to access 192.168.1.1 which is the IP of my Linksys router. Fortunately my router is password protected so it can't do anything to it. No online content plays.
Does anyone have any more information about the spyware / policeware nature of WM9? Is is safe to install? Last edited by temporance; 8th January 2003 at 09:57. |
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Gothenburg, Sweden
Posts: 69
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wma9..
I've tried encoding some music for quite awhile with WMA9 beta on my XP machine and I think the audio quality is very good compared to mp3. And you who has tried the 64kbps mode, have you really activated the vbr?
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