Auto Gordian Knot: current version 2.55

[GizmoDerMokwai]

anyone can recommend a standalone player, which can play the AutoGK XviD properly? Heard about several Players having Problems with the mp3vbr audio. so i'm searching for on which features good playback and not async audio...

[len0x]

Originally posted by GizmoDerMokwai
anyone can recommend a standalone player, which can play the AutoGK XviD properly? Heard about several Players having Problems with the mp3vbr audio. so i'm searching for on which features good playback and not async audio...

My Liteon LVD 2001 arriving tomorrow - then I'll tell you

P.S. noone notice this bug in 0.5: preview for some reasons now requires analysis step... I know why now, but funny that nobody noticed that before... In fact Doom9 included this as a feature in his guide lol There shouldn't be analysis step for preview.

*Edit* Also I might have a feedback on Kiss 1000 if Amazon is quick enough to deliver it before Christmas (my friend ordered it).

[GizmoDerMokwai]

wouldt be nice, if oyu can sent me you opinion about the players as a privat message or mail..
i've got to say: kiss players have problems with vbr audio, so sound gets out of sync...

to be honest: i've never used the preview function :P

[len0x]

I was just thinking - I'd like to keep statistics about those ones since AutoGK is targeted towards hardware players. This way I can have a database and build profiles. So that for instance on the main screen you're able to select the player and that will automatically enable/disable features of codec/audio which are supported/not supported by that particular player.

That's a cunning plan I think

[GizmoDerMokwai]

as i know, because i talked alot with other people about standalones, up to know nearly every player has prblemems with vbr audio, that's why i'm searching for one without that problems. and as we all know up to now no player has or has at least a excaptyble b-frame compatiblity...

[len0x]

This thread is slowing down a bit. It's time to shake it up! Have a look at version 0.6 here:

http://len0xmirror1.serveftp.net/~le....0.64.beta.zip

what's new:
- divx 5.1.1 pro support added (it doesn't check if it's installed already)
- preview no longer require analysis
- audio encoding and sub indexing is done after analysis step

Enjoy (divx support is a first draft, possibly bugz are on the way )

[GizmoDerMokwai]

very nice, len0x, will test it tomorrow...

[yotsuya-san]

Originally posted by len0x
version 0.6 here:

what's new:
- divx 5.1.1 pro support added (it doesn't check if it's installed already)

Hi, does it work with 5.02 & 5.05? Please don't be too harsh telling me "try it by yourself"

- audio encoding and sub indexing is done after analysis step

Does it mean that also compressibility test is made before audio encoding? I think it could be very useful, so one can do a 1 cd try, and if auto resolution is too low, he can go for 2 cd WITHOUT spending time in audio encoding (yes, I know that usually VBR encodings are not really precise, but...)

Bye.

[len0x]

Originally posted by yotsuya-san
Hi, does it work with 5.02 & 5.05? Please don't be too harsh telling me "try it by yourself"

I honestly don't know. I'm not planning to support those versions though. If registry settings are compatible then I see no reasons why it shouldn't work, but resize algorythm is tuned to work with 5.1.1

Originally posted by yotsuya-san

Does it mean that also compressibility test is made before audio encoding?

No it doesn't mean that Audio still encoded before comp test.

[Surgat]

len0x, i've just mailed you the spanish translation of AutoGK. I hope it will be useful for some people.

P.D. 0.6 version with Divx support? Oh my god, i'll have to update my translation :-)

[yotsuya-san]

Originally posted by len0x
I honestly don't know. I'm not planning to support those versions though. If registry settings are compatible then I see no reasons why it shouldn't work, but resize algorythm is tuned to work with 5.1.1

Ok, then I'll try it by myself

Can you please point me to a link that explain in what the 5.1.1 resize algorythm differ from 5.0x ones? Just for curiosity...

Thanks Len0x, and bye.

[calinb]

Originally posted by yotsuya-san
Hi, does it work with 5.02 & 5.05? Please don't be too harsh telling me "try it by yourself"

Some offsets changed sometime after DivX 5.02, which might cause problems in AutoGK. You might be able to make it work though. Search for info in the Vidomi forum (Vidomi forum members have continued support through all the DivX 5 releases.) Look at the changes that were necessary in the Vidomi "externalcodec.cfg" file. Sorry I don't have the info handy ATM.

[yotsuya-san]

Originally posted by calinb
Some offsets changed sometime after DivX 5.02, which might cause problems in AutoGK. [...] Look at the changes that were necessary in the Vidomi "externalcodec.cfg" file.

Thanks calinb, but how could I use divx5BitrateOffset=12 and divx5VbrModeOffset=8 settings in AutoGK?

[len0x]

Originally posted by yotsuya-san

Can you please point me to a link that explain in what the 5.1.1 resize algorythm differ from 5.0x ones? Just for curiosity...

You didn't get it - resize algorithm of AutoGK, not divx. AutoGK relies on comp test for resizing and parameters are adjusted after that. But adjustments are not fully precise - they are estimates of effect of different parameters (i.e. for instance b-frames increase compressibility by n%...). all this is tuned to a particular version of divx/xvid. so even if new codec it totally compatible with old one then actual compressibilities are not the same (and this is the case 5.0.5 vs 5.1.1). So you just might be off with those calculation and not get best quality/resolution/size ratio...

@calinb

What does vidomi and its forum has to do with AutoGK? Do not confuse ppl, please.

[yotsuya-san]

Originally posted by len0x
You didn't get it - resize algorithm of AutoGK, not divx.

It's not me, it's my poor english
If this time I've understood exactly, to make AutoGk work perfectly as usual I have to download DivX 5.1.1 Pro. No problem, one reason to try it. Thanks.

[calinb]

Originally posted by len0x
What does vidomi and its forum has to do with AutoGK? Do not confuse ppl, please.

<set soapbox on>
I have not confused! I will defend my vidomi reference as follows: The purpose of these forums is to help forum members and readers better understand and use the programs of interest. In this case, the program of interest is AutoGK, but yotsuya-san wishes to use it in a non-standard way. That's okay by me and interested parties, such as myself, should be free to help him.

If vidomi or the vidomi forum contains resources or information that is useful to that end, such references should be tolerated by the developers of "competing" programs and the mods of this forum. I participate in several forums myself and I'm a mod of a couple of forums too (not vidomi, BTW) and I've noticed an upleasant lack of tolerance for posts such as mine among a few doom9 leaders and mods. I'm not the only one who's been occasionally questioned over a post that was interpreted as "off-topic." I'd like to see a bit more tolerance and understanding evolve here at doom9.
<set soapbox off>

I very much hope you understand and accept my explanation, len0x and thank you very much for your excellent contributions.

@yotsuya-san: I don't know yet, but I sometimes use DivX 5.02 too, so I'll let you know if I find a method. It sounds like you were already aware of the issue.

[r6d2]

@len0x,

Yesterday I tried Indiana Jones III with 0.5, XviD, Maximum Quality. Output file size was 3.01-GB. Could not believe my eyes. Good job and nice tool, pal!

[02-12-2003 6:56:53] Duration was: 4 hours 5 minutes 6 seconds
[02-12-2003 6:56:54] Speed was: 12,41 fps.

Now trying same movie with 0.6 DivX.

Do you plan to support minimal Codec setup to select a higher quant for single pass fans?

[Tuning]

Hi len0x,

Finally with AutoGk with DivX support!. Wait is over!. Thanks.
May I ask what settings of divx is used by default?

Originally posted by len0x I was just thinking - I'd like to keep statistics about those ones since AutoGK is targeted towards hardware players. This way I can have a database and build profiles. So that for instance on the main screen you're able to select the player and that will automatically enable/disable features of codec/audio which are supported/not supported by that particular player.

This is going to be more and more wonderful. Amazing AutoGK and its wonderful properties!

Originally posted by len0x what's new:- divx 5.1.1 pro support added

I think Dr.DivX is going to be out of scene. . Lets get a farewell party to Dr.DivX.

Thanks len0x.

[r6d2]

Originally posted by Tuning
Lets get a farewell party to Dr.DivX.

We'll have to invite this guy:

DaMasteRZ
Posted: 2003-11-29 17:43:23
DivX Mod Squad

While Dr.Divx is great for the newbie to divx encoding, it is a program that is still in it's infancy and does not have real flexibility right now. Why don't you use the Gordian Knot method which is basically a bunch of freeware tools (DVD2AVI, Virtualdubmod, Nandub etc) wrapped up in a great GUI. It's nowhere near as easy to use as Dr. Divx but has lots more to offer in the flexibility department. Gordian Knot and a great guide to go with it can be found at doom9's:

http://www.doom9.org

The whole thread is interesting too:

http://forums.divx.com/viewtopic.php...55852&forum=24

[bkam]

[12/2/2003 9:57:13 PM] Job finihed.

Just a typo. I got it when I started a job, then closed DVD2AVI by accident. (0.6 Beta)