Nero6 with AAC+ has arrived. Please discuss your experiences & the container you used

SeeMoreDigital · 25th July 2003, 16:45

Well,

It's now the second release date for Nero6.
It's gone 15:00hours in europe.
Nero's counter is at zero days!
But still no software is available for download!

Really want to try AAC+!

Anybody know what's going on?

BoNz1 · 26th July 2003, 03:02

Buy the retail version it is already out, http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....5&type=product I have already had it since like the 18th or 19th IIRC,

EDIT: And BTW the web version is there too:
http://www.ahead.de/en/index.html
ftp://ftp.us.nero.com/Nero6009.exe
ftp://ftp.us.nero.com/NeroMediaPlayer1404.exe
ftp://ftp.us.nero.com/NVE20022.exe

ChristianHJW · 26th July 2003, 04:14

Its now on ftp://ftp.ahead.de also

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SeeMoreDigital · 26th July 2003, 11:11

Hey Hey Hey........ It's here!

One day late but never the less it's arrived. The entire web site has been redesigned. So in order to get directly to the download section you now have to go here: -

http://www.nero.com/en/631934351031098.html

Thanks

DKDIB · 26th July 2003, 11:50

SeeMoreDigital wrote:
> One day late but never the less it's arrived.

Not exactly: it uploaded at 23.00 or 24.00 CEST (German' s time zone in summer).

SeeMoreDigital · 26th July 2003, 14:17

Well the Nero6 GUI is certainly different.

My question to the mods is. Would this be the correct place in the forum to start a thread about Nero's AAC and AAC+

Cheers

Doom9 · 26th July 2003, 15:45

Quote:

My question to the mods is. Would this be the correct place in the forum to start a thread about Nero's AAC and AAC+

If it's about putting AAC(+) into a container, then yes, if it's encoding audio format x to aac, then the audio format would be more suitable.

Animaniac · 26th July 2003, 16:24

In case anyone is intersted, I was wondering how to use Mausau's plugings with Nero 6. He has kindly updated his site to show how to install with Nero 6.

Quote:

For Nero version 6, unzip the plugin DLL into "\Program Files\Common Files\Ahead\AudioPlugins" directory.

SeeMoreDigital · 26th July 2003, 18:15

Thanks for that Doom9...

Last week I started a thread about the Mp4 container, as did Sirber. And was hoping that something more positive could have come out of the thread prior to the release of Nero6.

I realize that just about anything can be put into the Matroska container these days but I personally (and please tell me I'm not alone!) would like to know more about Mp4 container applications.

Foreinstance, are there any simple applications out there that will allow me to create DivX type video with AAC audio?

vinouz · 26th July 2003, 19:38

Nero 6 doens't read my OGGs anymore with rareware's plugin.

Animaniac · 26th July 2003, 20:36

Quote:

Originally posted by vinouz
Nero 6 doens't read my OGGs anymore with rareware's plugin.

Mausau's plugings

chepe36 · 27th July 2003, 00:30

Is it my imagination or LC-AAC sounds better than HE-AAC??

in HE-AAC there seems to be a strange noise in high frequencies more like some kind of distortion, well at least to my ears, but yes the file size is always a lot smaller.

Doom9 · 27th July 2003, 00:51

Quote:

are there any simple applications out there that will allow me to create DivX type video with AAC audio?

if you mean gknot style, then I wouldn't know of any. So far, mp4 creation is limited to mp4ui and the underlying mpeg4if cli tools. The DivX MP4 creator has been removed but I suppose it will show up again one day or another. 3ivX and ahead (as part of Nerodigital) will certainly have their own solutions at some point. But I think one major problem that has yet to be tackled is editing.. there's no mp4 editing application I'm aware of, and should I ever feel the need to switch containers, editing is definitely a must.

zeiRAM · 27th July 2003, 01:18

how can i join a nero aac with a avi to a mkv file ,( i allways get error dont support mp4/quicktime file. i check export iso xxxx track but didnt help ,(

unmei · 27th July 2003, 02:20

You will need the 3vix DSF for "splitting" the mp4 file. Then i graphedit drop the video, add matroska muxer and file writer DSFs and "render" the aac (ctrl+r) then link a chain similar to this (from this thread)but with aac and avi input. decoder and render DSFs are not necessary for creating a file. delete those the graph builder added. Once done press the play button and wait until play has finished writing the file.

Sirber · 27th July 2003, 02:30

Quote:

Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
Last week I started a thread about the Mp4 container, as did Sirber.

Huh? I did something?

zeiRAM · 27th July 2003, 02:42

Thx Unmei it work, but how can i add a delay, the audio hast 920ms ,(

jernst · 27th July 2003, 03:08

Quote:

Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital

Foreinstance, are there any simple applications out there that will allow me to create DivX type video with AAC audio?

You can use DVX with MP4 plugin to get DivX (or XviD) with AAC into MP4 container. I never tried this plugin myself but I think it works quite well. http://planetdvb.net/dvx

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Let's give this new nero a try right now !

BoNz1 · 27th July 2003, 03:16

Quote:

Originally posted by chepe36
Is it my imagination or LC-AAC sounds better than HE-AAC??

in HE-AAC there seems to be a strange noise in high frequencies more like some kind of distortion, well at least to my ears, but yes the file size is always a lot smaller.

Yup, I have noticed the same thing. At really low bitrates HE AAC really does help a lot but at higher bitrates ie closer to 96kbps I think LC AAC is much better. I find the distortion most annoying, I have posted this in other forums too. Anyway, do make sure that you are using the right decoder the one for winamp will only do half the sampling rate and about 10-11khz less frequency the only decoder that will decode it is the one that comes with Nero, that is till FAAD2 gets SBR support.

Sirber · 27th July 2003, 15:30

I just made my first trat with HE-AAC at 64kbps, and IMHO mp3PRO sounds better. AAC+ have too much distortions

[edit]

Vorbis sounds better than mp3PRO...

[edit2]

All at 64kbps

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SeeMoreDigital Life looks better in HDTV Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: UK Posts: 10,008	Nero6 with AAC+ has arrived. Please discuss your experiences & the container you used Well, It's now the second release date for Nero6. It's gone 15:00hours in europe. Nero's counter is at zero days! But still no software is available for download! Really want to try AAC+! Anybody know what's going on? __________________ Still confused about anamorphic images? Then look here! \| Main Encoding Interests: Hardware device playback \| My Gear \| Last edited by SeeMoreDigital; 27th July 2003 at 00:47.

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BoNz1 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Great White North Posts: 521	Buy the retail version it is already out, http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....5&type=product I have already had it since like the 18th or 19th IIRC, EDIT: And BTW the web version is there too: http://www.ahead.de/en/index.html ftp://ftp.us.nero.com/Nero6009.exe ftp://ftp.us.nero.com/NeroMediaPlayer1404.exe ftp://ftp.us.nero.com/NVE20022.exe Last edited by BoNz1; 26th July 2003 at 03:06.

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SeeMoreDigital Life looks better in HDTV Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: UK Posts: 10,008	Hey Hey Hey........ It's here! One day late but never the less it's arrived. The entire web site has been redesigned. So in order to get directly to the download section you now have to go here: - http://www.nero.com/en/631934351031098.html Thanks __________________ Still confused about anamorphic images? Then look here! \| Main Encoding Interests: Hardware device playback \| My Gear \|

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DKDIB Paradise searcher Join Date: May 2003 Location: EU (Italy) Posts: 76	SeeMoreDigital wrote: > One day late but never the less it's arrived. Not exactly: it uploaded at 23.00 or 24.00 CEST (German' s time zone in summer). __________________ "In 18 anni non ero mai servita a nessuno, ma qui posso aiutare e persino essere necessaria agli altri." .hack//SIGN special - Intermezzo

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SeeMoreDigital Life looks better in HDTV Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: UK Posts: 10,008	Message to the Moderators Well the Nero6 GUI is certainly different. My question to the mods is. Would this be the correct place in the forum to start a thread about Nero's AAC and AAC+ Cheers __________________ Still confused about anamorphic images? Then look here! \| Main Encoding Interests: Hardware device playback \| My Gear \|

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ChristianHJW Matroska Team Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Bavaria - Germany Posts: 1,341	Its now on ftp://ftp.ahead.de also .....

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SeeMoreDigital Life looks better in HDTV Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: UK Posts: 10,008	Thanks for that Doom9... Last week I started a thread about the Mp4 container, as did Sirber. And was hoping that something more positive could have come out of the thread prior to the release of Nero6. I realize that just about anything can be put into the Matroska container these days but I personally (and please tell me I'm not alone!) would like to know more about Mp4 container applications. Foreinstance, are there any simple applications out there that will allow me to create DivX type video with AAC audio? __________________ Still confused about anamorphic images? Then look here! \| Main Encoding Interests: Hardware device playback \| My Gear \|

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vinouz Grüt Power Maintainer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: france Posts: 111	Yes But... Nero 6 doens't read my OGGs anymore with rareware's plugin. __________________ A psychotic thinks that 2 + 2 = 5. A neurotic knows that 2 + 2 = 4... but it worries him!

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chepe36 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Alterac Posts: 40	Is it my imagination or LC-AAC sounds better than HE-AAC?? in HE-AAC there seems to be a strange noise in high frequencies more like some kind of distortion, well at least to my ears, but yes the file size is always a lot smaller.

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zeiRAM Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 18	how can i join a nero aac with a avi to a mkv file ,( i allways get error dont support mp4/quicktime file. i check export iso xxxx track but didnt help ,(

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unmei frying subs Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ch-2500 Posts: 894	You will need the 3vix DSF for "splitting" the mp4 file. Then i graphedit drop the video, add matroska muxer and file writer DSFs and "render" the aac (ctrl+r) then link a chain similar to this (from this thread)but with aac and avi input. decoder and render DSFs are not necessary for creating a file. delete those the graph builder added. Once done press the play button and wait until play has finished writing the file. __________________ U96 project -nyo Last edited by unmei; 27th July 2003 at 02:23.

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zeiRAM Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 18	Thx Unmei it work, but how can i add a delay, the audio hast 920ms ,(

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Sirber Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 8,732	I just made my first trat with HE-AAC at 64kbps, and IMHO mp3PRO sounds better. AAC+ have too much distortions [edit] Vorbis sounds better than mp3PRO... [edit2] All at 64kbps __________________ download RealAnime and Bencos Last edited by Sirber; 27th July 2003 at 15:49.

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