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Old 30th April 2003, 12:06   #1  |  Link
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I tried to downmix a 6ch-wav with the BS_Downmix-plugin

There is nothing wrong with the 6ch-wav, because it works in HeadAC3he.

Here is the situation:

BeSweet v1.4 by DSPguru.
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Using BS_Downmix.dll v0.2 by DSPguru (http://DSPguru.doom9.org).
Manual Dynamic-Compression algorithm by LigH (author of WaveBooster).

Logging start : 04/30/03 , 13:02:22.

d:\besweet\BeSweet.exe -core( -input g:\6ch.wav -output g:\2ch.wav -2ch -logfile D:\besweet\BeSweet.log ) -ota( -g max ) -boost( /b2=5 ) -plugin( -name D:\besweet\BS_Downmix.dll -func NoLFE -6ch ) -azid( -s surround -L -3db )

[00:00:00:000] +------- BeSweet -----
[00:00:00:000] | Input : g:\6ch.wav
[00:00:00:000] | Output: g:\2ch.wav
[00:00:00:000] | Floating-Point Process: No
[00:00:00:000] | Overall Track Gain: 1.#IOdB
[00:00:00:000] | Source Sample-Rate: 48.0KHz
[00:00:00:000] +-------- BOOST ------
[00:00:00:000] | Algorithm by : Dg
[00:00:00:000] | Boost Factor : 5.0
[00:00:00:000] | Limit Factor : 0.73
[00:00:00:000] +---------------------
[ 32] Conversion Completed !
[00:00:00:000] <-- Transcoding Duration
Logging ends : 04/30/03 , 13:02:22.

So it does not crash....just produces nothing :-)

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Old 30th April 2003, 12:09   #2  |  Link
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BeSweet only supports a 16bit waves, not 32bit floating-point. what kind of 6chwave are you feeding BeSweet with ?
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BeSweet only supports a 16bit waves, not 32bit floating-point. what kind of 6chwave are you feeding BeSweet with ?
HeadAC3he stream-info gives the following info:

WAV: 48 kHz 16 bit int 6ch 4608 kbps
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Old 30th April 2003, 14:19   #4  |  Link
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10x for the info, i'll check it out whenever have the time..
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You are welcome.
Thank you too! I will be waiting patiently.

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hmmm.. your commandline works perfectly in here
would you mind pasting a logfile of this :
d:\besweet\BeSweet.exe -core( -input g:\6ch.wav -output g:\2ch.wav -6ch -logfilea D:\besweet\BeSweet.log ) -ota( -g max ) -boost( /b2=5 ) -azid( -s surround -L -3db )
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Gave me the following result...

Creates six wav-files of 1 KB each and then crashes.
The 6ch-file is not an ac3-wav...it is one big file with 6 mono pcm wav's in it. It is about 3 GB of size...maybe that's the problem? too big file?


BeSweet v1.4 by DSPguru.
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Manual Dynamic-Compression algorithm by LigH (author of WaveBooster).

Logging start : 04/30/03 , 23:32:15.

BeSweet.exe -core( -input g:\6ch.wav -output g:\2ch.wav -6ch -logfile BeSweet.log ) -ota( -g max ) -boost( /b2=5 ) -azid( -s surround -L -3db )

[00:00:00:000] +------- BeSweet -----
[00:00:00:000] | Input : g:\6ch.wav
[00:00:00:000] | Output: FL, FR, SL, SR, C, LFE
[00:00:00:000] | Floating-Point Process: No
[00:00:00:000] | Overall Track Gain: 1.#IOdB
[00:00:00:000] | Source Sample-Rate: 48.0KHz
[00:00:00:000] +-------- BOOST ------
[00:00:00:000] | Algorithm by : Dg
[00:00:00:000] | Boost Factor : 5.0
[00:00:00:000] | Limit Factor : 0.73
[00:00:00:000] +---------------------

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Old 30th April 2003, 22:41   #8  |  Link
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the problem is probably with the size..
though, this probably won't help, you can try adding -split( -end 1000 ) to your commandline..


* try processing the file with v1.5b

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Old 30th April 2003, 23:22   #9  |  Link
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Tried both suggestions...same result.

It was you who gave me the idea
You said this in a thread:

multichannel waves are supported (only 16bit waves, though), but downmix to 2ch is only possible by using the downmix plugin.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...ight=dts+guide


So I went to your site and downloaded BS_Downmix.dll.

It works with HeadAC3he, but I rather use BeSweet fot the job.
Seems to me the two-pass downmixing with the overall max gain works better than the HeadAC3he-method. Or I am wrong here?

Anyway, thanks for your attention. I hope it will be resolved in the future.

Greetings,
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Old 1st May 2003, 11:04   #10  |  Link
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I have cut a piece of 260 MB from the big 3GB-file.

It works now! So it is confirmed...the file is just too big.
Any change of fixing that?

Here's the log...

BeSweet v1.5b17 by DSPguru.
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Using BS_Downmix.dll v0.2 by DSPguru (http://DSPguru.doom9.org).
Manual Dynamic-Compression algorithm by LigH (author of WaveBooster).

Logging start : 05/01/03 , 12:00:55.

d:\besweet\BeSweet.exe -core( -input g:\6ch.wav -output g:\2ch.wav -2ch -logfile D:\besweet\BeSweet.log ) -ota( -g max ) -boost( /b2=5 ) -plugin( -name D:\besweet\BS_Downmix.dll -func NoLFE -6ch ) -azid( -s surround -L -3db )

[00:00:00:000] +------- BeSweet -----
[00:00:00:000] | Input : g:\6ch.wav
[00:00:00:000] | Output: g:\2ch.wav
[00:00:00:000] | Floating-Point Process: No
[00:00:00:000] | Overall Track Gain: 1.009dB
[00:00:00:000] | Source Sample-Rate: 48.0KHz
[00:00:00:000] +-------- BOOST ------
[00:00:00:000] | Algorithm by : Dg
[00:00:00:000] | Boost Factor : 5.0
[00:00:00:000] | Limit Factor : 0.73
[00:00:00:000] +---------------------
[00:07:42:620] Conversion Completed !
[00:07:42:620] Actual Avg. Bitrate : 1536kbps
[00:00:38:000] <-- Transcoding Duration
Logging ends : 05/01/03 , 12:01:33.
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i don't have such a huge wave file at the moment, so it's a bit hard to track this issue..
anyway, i applied a small hack, please redownload b17 and try your luck..
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This one works...for starters...

The process stops when the 6ch-file reaches 2 GB.
Does not crash though, just stops.

Greetings,
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yea.. i know about that 2gb barrier..

well.. the only thing i could offer now is that you (somehow) split your multichannel wave into 6 mono waves (BeSplit can do this principley, but it suffers from the same 2gb barrier), and then use a ".mux" as your BeSweet's inputfile (text file that lists all mono waves).
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That's no problem. I made the huge file from 6 mono-wav's already. So I don't need to split it again.

How does this mux-list work? Does besweet know what channel (like center or right-surround) it is dealing with?
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great! so you don't need to mux the mono waves (into mulitchannel wave) prior feeding it to BeSweet. just let BeSweet process the files by itself.

here's an example 'channels.mux' textfile :
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g:\channelFL.wav
g:\channelC.wav
g:\channelFR.wav
g:\channelSL.wav
g:\channelSR.wav
g:\channelLFE.wav
then use -core( -input channels.mux ...
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The conversion worked...

But the result is not good...very cracking sound and robot-like voices.

I used this mux-file:

F:\center.wav
F:\left.wav
F:\left-s.wav
F:\lfe.wav
F:\right.wav
F:\right-s.wav

Does the order of the channels really not matter?
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Originally posted by Jan Marijniszoon
The conversion worked...

But the result is not good...very cracking sound and robot-like voices.
hmmm..


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Does the order of the channels really not matter?
you bet!

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Sorry that I did not post the log-file.
But that's because there is nothing 'shocking' to see in it :-)
Here it is...

BeSweet v1.5b17 by DSPguru.
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Using BS_Downmix.dll v0.2 by DSPguru (http://DSPguru.doom9.org).
Manual Dynamic-Compression algorithm by LigH (author of WaveBooster).

Logging start : 05/03/03 , 01:42:18.

BeSweet.exe -core( -input f:\6ch.mux -output f:\2ch.wav -2ch -logfile D:\besweet\BeSweet.log ) -plugin( -name D:\besweet\BS_Downmix.dll -func NoLFE -6ch ) -azid( -s surround -L -3db ) -boost( /b2=5 ) -ota( -g max )

[00:00:00:000] +------- BeSweet -----
[00:00:00:000] | Input : f:\6ch.mux
[00:00:00:000] | Output: f:\2ch.wav
[00:00:00:000] | Floating-Point Process: No
[00:00:00:000] | Overall Track Gain: 0.000dB
[00:00:00:000] | Source Sample-Rate: 48.0KHz
[00:00:00:000] +-------- BOOST ------
[00:00:00:000] | Algorithm by : Dg
[00:00:00:000] | Boost Factor : 5.0
[00:00:00:000] | Limit Factor : 0.73
[00:00:00:000] +---------------------
[02:05:57:121] Conversion Completed !
[02:05:57:121] Actual Avg. Bitrate : 86kbps
[00:36:14:000] <-- Transcoding Duration
Logging ends : 05/03/03 , 02:18:32.
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I also tried the order of channels in your suggested mux-example...
Same result.
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let's eliminate. please give me a feedback on the result of the following commandline :

BeSweet.exe -core( -input f:\6ch.mux -output f:\ -6ch -logfilea D:\besweet\BeSweet.log )
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It makes six wav-files of 0 bytes, it crashes and it gives this log:

BeSweet v1.5b17 by DSPguru.
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Logging start : 05/05/03 , 23:49:37.

BeSweet.exe -core( -input f:\6ch.mux -output f:\ -6ch -logfile D:\besweet\BeSweet.log )

[00:00:00:000] +------- BeSweet -----
[00:00:00:000] | Input : f:\6ch.mux
[00:00:00:000] | Output: FL, FR, SL, SR, C, LFE
[00:00:00:000] | Floating-Point Process: No
[00:00:00:000] | Source Sample-Rate: 48.0KHz
[00:00:00:000] +---------------------

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