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Old 18th February 2003, 18:03   #1  |  Link
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Multi-episode DVDs a success with DVD2One v1.0.1

I'm viewing my Mobile Suit Gundam Wing: Operation 2 anime DVD right now and all I can say is...SWEEEEEET! With DVD2One's new feature on giving us the option to resize whatever title we want, it has made my multi-episode DVD a big successful project. I made countless attempts on trying to do this for a long time before v1.0.1 came along. Thanks DVD2One team! Thanks Erwin!! Now I have the faith to do more of these now.

PS I forgot to mention that it was a 5 episode DVD with each one averaging about 1.26GB.
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Old 18th February 2003, 18:34   #2  |  Link
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So how did you do it?
Did you use Dvd2one on each title one at a time?
Then demux them all, and reauthor ??

Or did you use IfoEdit to join all the resulting vob's?
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Dealing with Episodes in Separate Titlesets using DVD2One

2/19/2003 Update: Here's my improved guide. With this guide, it is now possible to keep everything on your DVD by just shrinking the size of your VOBs. I used a anime DVD with 5 episodes in separate titlesets for my example DVD.

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DVD2One 1.0.1
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1. Create a folder named “Original” and 3 sub-folders named “DVD2One”, “Files”, and “Episodes”
Note: If you can create your “Original” and “DVD2One” folders in separate physical hard drives, it would speed up processing.
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2. Rip all files to your “Original” folder
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3. At this point you need to distinguish which VOBs are your episode VOBs. It’s kind of easy. You should know right away by just previewing the menu how many episodes you have. If you have 5, then you will have 5 titlesets with VOBs that are just bigger than usual.

If hard drive space is not a problem then you can copy all your episode VOBs into your “Episodes” folder. If not, just drag/cut them over. In my example below, this is what I have in my “Episodes” folder.

Color code
As viewed separately in file properties
As viewed combined in file properties

VTS_07_1.VOB 1,048,404 KB……..0.99 GB (1,073,565,696 bytes)……. 1.23 GB (1,324,294,144 bytes)
VTS_07_2.VOB 244,852 KB……..….239 MB (250,728,448 bytes)

VTS_08_1.VOB 1,048,404 KB……..0.99 GB (1,073,565,696 bytes) …….1.23 GB (1,323,094,016 bytes)
VTS_08_2.VOB 243,680 KB……..….237 MB (249,528,320 bytes)

VTS_15_1.VOB 1,048,404 KB……..0.99 GB (1,073,565,696 bytes) …….1.23 GB (1,327,017,984 bytes)
VTS_15_2.VOB 247,512 KB……..….241 MB (253,452,288 bytes)

VTS_16_1.VOB 1,048,404 KB……..0.99 GB (1,073,565,696 bytes) …….1.25 GB (1,352,425,472 bytes)
VTS_16_2.VOB 272,324 KB……..….265 MB (278,859,776 bytes)

VTS_17_1.VOB 1,048,404 KB……..0.99 GB (1,073,565,696 bytes) ……. 1.26 GB (1,359,202,304 bytes)
VTS_17_2.VOB 278,942 KB……..….272 MB (285,636,608 bytes)
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4. Here's a simple calculator to help you out for this step in helping you get a proper resize of your VOBs. Created by atreides93 with a little cosmetic makeover by me. It's easy to use and it was saved as a Excel (97-2002) file for compability with older Excel versions. 2/22/03 Download link has been updated

Download Excel Spreadsheet Resize Calculator

So when you get your size values, let’s go to next step.
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5. Copy your first episode IFO into your “Episodes” folder. In my example, I would copy my VTS_07_0.IFO over. You can copy over all your associated IFOs if you want since you can select it in DVD2One but it’s less confusing on trying to remember which title in DVD2One you need to pick. Just do one at a time to make it simple.
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6. Start DVD2One 1.0.1 . In the first page, your source folder will be your “Episodes” folder and your Destination folder will be your “DVD2One” folder. For your size, enter the MB you calculated for this titleset in step 4.
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7. In your second page, you should have only one title to pick. Select and press next button.
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8. On the third page, select want you want to keep and press start button to begin transcoding.
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9. When DVD2one is done, go to your DVD2One folder and rename your VOBs accordingly like original VOBs you transcoded. If you have more than one VOB in this folder then the next VOB would be renamed as VTS_*_2.VOB.

Note: Your new episode size will not be exactly as you inputted and this is a quote from ReneB in the official DVD2One Forum:
“It is more like an estimated/desired endsize not a dead-on exact lock on the endsize.”
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10. Drag VOBs in “DVD2One” folder into your “Original” folder.

Use IFOupdate to edit your IFO associated with your new transcoded episode VOBs. Select this IFO as input into your Original IFO path and VTS_01_0.IFO in your “DVD2One” folder as your authored IFO. You can put your backup anywhere you want.
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11. Press Update IFO button
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12. Press Correct VTS Sectors button
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13. Preview using IFoedit and if everything is fine for you, it’s safe to delete your IFO in your Episodes folder.
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14. It is also safe to delete all your files in your DVD2One folder too
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15. Repeat steps 5 to 12 with your remaining episode IFOs
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16. Check your total movie size in Explorer and if under 4.38 GB then go to next step.
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17. Open up VIDEO_TS.IFO in IFOedit and press Get VTS Sectors button.
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18. Press DVDplay button to preview and test.
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I'm sold on DVD2One. It really beats InstantCopy in lesser total processing time anyday when trying to keep the whole DVD. No more waiting hours for me. This method is great for anime fans with DVDs that fall into this multi-episode setup.
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Old 18th February 2003, 18:56   #4  |  Link
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We can also used that feature to compress extras. lets assume we have s source that looks like this:

VOB 1, main movie, 5 gigs
VOB 2, The making of extras, 2 gigs
all other vobs plus VOB 1_0 = 300mb

To make a complete backup, set size for the main movie at 3gigs. Then run DVD2one with the "making of" has source and set size at 1 gig. Then copy all other vobs in a folder plus the 2 re-encode set of vobs and you have a full DVD-9 to DVD-5 backup.

DVD2one is so fast it pretty doable depending on the structure of the source DVD.

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Ok I'm going to try your method.
I've never used Ifoupdate before. I'm not sure what it does.
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Ok I'm going to try your method.
I've never used Ifoupdate before. I'm not sure what it does.
atreides93,

You NEED to use IFOupdate with your original VOBs as DVD2one's new IFO is for your transcoded movie. The chapters entry points will be all off if you just dragged your DVD2One VOB into your original movie folder and used your untouched original IFO.
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Is there a problem with step 5?? it says you rename the dvd2one ifo file to the correct name and drag it to the original folder. but won't that overwrite the original ifo file before you have a chance to ifoupdate it?
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Is there a problem with step 5?? it says you rename the dvd2one ifo file to the correct name and drag it to the original folder. but won't that overwrite the original ifo file before you have a chance to ifoupdate it?
SORRY! I just did a allnighter and it should say VOB not IFO. I going to correct that after this post and when I get home from work, I'll see if I can write out a better clarified guide. I can't think right now. Need coffee...
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hahah. get some sleep
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OK I just went through the entire thing.
But I can't test it till tonight since I'm on a remote connection.
I got the final DVD from 7 gigs to 4.12 gigs...(my calculations were off)
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Sounds a lot like the same method I already have properly documented here at www.dvd2dvdr.com except you only have to run DVD2ONE one time instead of many times.

You could have done all this in the old version.

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Doesn't seem like the same thing at all.
which page on that site?
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http://www.dvd2dvdr.com/Episode_Guide.htm

Basically all you had to do before was rip the dvd, put all the VOB's in order, use IFOEdit to create new Ifo's and then run DVD2ONE. In some cases you don't even have to do that much. It really depends on the Disk. Most anime Disks I can get away with doing just what I said, but you reallly have to look at it on a case by case basis. in any event using this method you only have to run DVD2ONE one time.
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Sounds a lot like the same method I already have properly documented here at www.dvd2dvdr.com except you only have to run DVD2ONE one time instead of many times.

You could have done all this in the old version.
rishardc,

I went over your guide more than once. Now correct me if I'm wrong but your method is combining all your episode VOBs and numbering them orderly as one titleset. You then create new IFOs and you got one big movie ONLY with all the episodes playing back to back. No menu keeping or extras.

In my way, I use DVD2one to transcode all 5 of my episodes SEPARATELY so that I can put them back in their original spot with IFOupdate fixing the original IFOs chapters points. This way, I get to keep EVERYTHING! Just like the original DVD.

Just got back from work. A little tired but still hangin'.
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Do this with a multi-PGC title, and I will be impressed. (i.e. Simpsons Season 1)
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I just did

But the quality sucked cause it was nearly 4 hours of video. no way you can get 4 hours of video to look good in only 4.3 gigs!! i think 3 hours is the max...

I tried your method 2cool and it worked fine! Definitely looking forward to trying it on something that isn't 4 hours long hehe
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I am confused.

Code:
08/30/2001  05:21 PM        38,510,592 VTS_04_0.VOB
08/30/2001  05:21 PM     1,073,709,056 VTS_04_1.VOB
08/30/2001  05:21 PM     1,073,709,056 VTS_04_2.VOB
08/30/2001  05:21 PM     1,073,709,056 VTS_04_3.VOB
08/30/2001  05:21 PM     1,073,709,056 VTS_04_4.VOB
08/30/2001  05:21 PM     1,073,709,056 VTS_04_5.VOB
08/30/2001  05:21 PM     1,073,709,056 VTS_04_6.VOB
08/30/2001  05:21 PM     1,073,709,056 VTS_04_7.VOB
08/30/2001  05:21 PM        62,535,680 VTS_04_8.VOB
08/30/2001  05:21 PM            30,720 VTS_05_0.BUP
08/30/2001  05:21 PM            30,720 VTS_05_0.IFO
08/30/2001  05:21 PM        34,150,400 VTS_05_0.VOB
08/30/2001  05:21 PM            10,240 VTS_05_1.VOB
That is the lay out of one of the discs, within the 4th titleset, are all 6 episodes (6 PGCs). How can you use this guide to accomplish this?
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int21h,

Maybe I should rename my guide as a "non-strand" guide. Non-strand is what rishardc referred to in his guide as episodes in separate titlesets. What you have is a "strand" structure in which all your episodes are in one titleset. I'm brainstorming right now on what I would do with yours while I'm updating my small guide. I've had a long day so multi-tasking at this moment is putting a strain on the brain.
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I just did

But the quality sucked cause it was nearly 4 hours of video. no way you can get 4 hours of video to look good in only 4.3 gigs!! i think 3 hours is the max...

I tried your method 2cool and it worked fine! Definitely looking forward to trying it on something that isn't 4 hours long hehe
Glad it worked for you. Now do you SEE the difference between my way and rishardc's way?
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Yea, you did a good job on putting all of this info in one place 2Cool, and I knew this was not meant for multi-PGC in one titleset (when I read your original post saying it was one ep per title), I was just confused on what Atreides93 meant...
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