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Old 13th January 2007, 10:22   #1  |  Link
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EVOB De/Multiplexers

evdberg we need a demuxer for evobs, do you know anything about the format?
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Old 13th January 2007, 10:29   #2  |  Link
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I normally do not point out to progs of the competition, but you might want to look here: http://www.dvd-logic.com/hddemuxer.htm

Personally I find it highly overpriced, but it might sell as long as there is nothing else. But maybe you can also simply demux using the good old VobEdit, I did not try this yet (I just have my Xbox360 drive!)

But yes, I do know a lot of the HD-DVD format, simply because it looks a lot like the DVD format. I always considered this a major advantage over BluRay. There are a lot of people out here that know the DVD format, and it will not take much time for them to master the HD-DVD format. At least not the basic format (as used for instance by Video Studio 10), the advanced format as used on commercial titles may be more work.

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Old 13th January 2007, 10:39   #3  |  Link
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dvd-logic's demuxer doesn't seem to actually be for hd dvd's. It wants to open an IFO file which doesn't exist on HD DVD's
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Old 13th January 2007, 11:24   #4  |  Link
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dvd-logic's demuxer doesn't seem to actually be for hd dvd's.
It most likely only works with home made HD-DVDs, so disks of the 'basic' type. But why do you want to demux the stream?
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Old 13th January 2007, 11:52   #5  |  Link
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It most likely only works with home made HD-DVDs, so disks of the 'basic' type. But why do you want to demux the stream?
to convert to x264 or w/e I imagine
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Old 13th January 2007, 12:29   #6  |  Link
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to convert to x264 or w/e I imagine
Is there already a VC-1 decoder then?
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Old 13th January 2007, 13:50   #7  |  Link
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so bbdmux seems to be able to demux the evo's into elementary streams of vc-1 and dolby digital plus. I have yet to find anything that will play a VC-1 elementary stream or a DDPlus elementary stream.

Any ideas?
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Old 13th January 2007, 19:24   #8  |  Link
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so bbdmux seems to be able to demux the evo's into elementary streams of vc-1 and dolby digital plus. I have yet to find anything that will play a VC-1 elementary stream or a DDPlus elementary stream.

Any ideas?
I would imagine you could mux them into a wmv and then play. Although, I can get bbdmux to identify the streams it won't parse any out for me.

pack header field flag value not allowed in program streams

Have you actually been able to demux the streams?
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Old 13th January 2007, 19:42   #9  |  Link
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If you have Scenarist 4 installed youŽll be able to play at least the vc-1 stream and with the help of graphedit you can render the .evo with direct show filters..
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Old 13th January 2007, 21:56   #11  |  Link
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You can't use the PowerDVD or WinDVD filters in graphedit At least they wouldn't work for me.
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Old 13th January 2007, 22:01   #12  |  Link
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EVOB De/Multiplexers


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This thread has been split from the BackupHDDVD thread, in order to keep that one on topic, and to provide a thread dedicated to the research, development, and testing of EVOB multiplexers and demultiplexers.

Background
BackupHDDVD, a tool to decrypt AACS protected movies
Current Status

EVOB demultiplexers available:
Sonic Scenarist 4.1 (DirectShow filters)
License: Commerical Software
Capabilities: EVOB demux, audio problems
HD DVD Demuxer
License: Commercial software, $99.95 USD to buy
Capabilities: M2V, M1V, AC3, WAV, DTS, MPA, MLP, M4V
bbDMUX
License: free
Capabilities: MPEG 1,2 PS/TS demux (commandline only)
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"buddies, the evo file is actually mpeg2 program stream.
bbdmux can demux it into vc1 ES and ddplus ES

bbdmux mainintro.evo 0xfd test.vc1
bbdmux mainintro.evo 0xbd test.ddp

bbdmux is a cmd line tool in bbtools with bbmpeg

anybody have vc1 and ddplus spec ?"
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McOnyx: YESSSS I DID IT!!! I've gotten this to play in MPC (Media Player Classic). The video plays perfectly the only thing is the Dolby DD Plus, that doesn't play. Have tried with the Cyberlink Audio Decoder Filter, but no success, maybe a WinDVD Audio can play the Dolby Plus stream! Maybe someone else will have more luck! I used the DShow filters from Sonic Scenarist 4.1, which come bundled with the prog. The right filters are: Sonic HD Demuxer and Sonic Cinemaster Video Decoder 4.1! From here i don't think it should be problem to use it in AVISynth, with DirectShowSource, but haven't tried it!

ArieW: Sonic HD-DVD DShow Filter dll's work pretty good. insane resolution/quality. this is a good step forward. thanks for the effort

svizzle: reencoding the mainintro.evo right now with graphedit

orbitlee: About the Sonic HDDemuxer, since nobody get audio, is it possible that this demux does not support DD+ ? Anybody have success on other demuxer?

hdtau: 1. yeah, sonic decoders work with mpc, at least video, but no audio, with sonic audio it freezes, with power dvd audio it plays, but still no sound..

McOnyx: Well i tried few more times but can't get the audio working through MPC with Sonic Decoders. I wonder does anyone know if these decoders even support Dolby Digital Plus? And is there any Dolby Plus decoder, other than PowerDVD and WinDVD. It would be awesome if someone would work on DD+ in FFDShow, maybe now when HD-DVD is cracked, someone will...

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Old 13th January 2007, 23:16   #13  |  Link
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bbDMUX definitely did not work for me. Sonic looks great. However, the audio stream is only understood as 2 channel 35000khz.
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Old 14th January 2007, 00:56   #14  |  Link
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On emule this 112mb EVO file shows how good a mpeg4 AVC
at 6Mbps encode can look like.

A 100 minute movie would fit on a 4.7GB DVD

ed2k://|file|Departed%20Trailer.EVO|118069248|454C310BC7DB35BF8C69E3AB7300507A|h=IJR3G253NYOBRDD2ALTGIXLTAWYLGCIW|/

This also a good file to play around with if you do not have a HDDVD drive to get access to EVO files.

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Old 14th January 2007, 02:16   #15  |  Link
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I think you should start a new topic about demuxing etc. and keep it separate from this discussion about decryption.
Done

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Done

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Maybe you should merge this topic with the new topic already created by Isochroma (see his post with link above your post).
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...891#post933891
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Old 14th January 2007, 03:24   #17  |  Link
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as .evo is .mpg what about all the freeware .mpg muxers/demuxer out there?

like ffmpeg or mplayer?
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They try to demux it but don't do it properly since they don't fully understand EVOBs since EVOB is an extended/enhanced VOB
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Old 14th January 2007, 08:39   #19  |  Link
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BBDemux did work for me. I have two seperate streams, but the problem is handling vc-1 in order to reencode it and the dd plus stream, no app recognizes it properly.
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BBDemux will leave all of the IME stuff in the video stream when you demux it - or at least that's what it seemed to me. It was corrupted none the less, but only for EVOBs with IME in it.
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