Nero 7 does not work with Besweet - Page 3

tebasuna51 · 5th November 2005, 04:56

Only to clarify and resume the new codec NERO-AAC 7 behavior with Besweet about channel mapping:
aacenc32.dll v4.2.1.0
Aac.dll v3.0.0.3
NeroIPP.dll v4.2.1.0
BeSweet v1.5b31 by DSPguru.

Code:

Using bsn.dll v0.24 by DPeshev,Richard,E-Male,DSPguru (DSPguru.Doom9.org).
or
Using bsn.dll replacement v0.02 by dimzon (dimzon541@gmail.com).
-input FL_FR_C_LFE_SL_SR.wav ... -bsn( -6chnew ... Wrong aac channel mapping
-input Correct.ac3           ... -bsn( -6chnew ... Wrong aac channel mapping
-input FR_C_FL_SR_LFE_SL.wav ... -bsn( -6chnew ... Correct aac channel mapping

Using bse_Nero7WA.dll by dimzon, Build Nov  3 2005, 14:10:28 (latest)
-input FL_FR_C_LFE_SL_SR.wav ... -dimzon( -dllname bse_Nero7WA.dll -6chnew ... Correct aac channel mapping
-input Correct.ac3           ... -dimzon( -dllname bse_Nero7WA.dll -6chnew ... Correct aac channel mapping

Thanks Dimzon.

Edited to include components versions. NeroIPP.dll v4.2.1.0 newer than Dimzon's.

dimzon · 10th November 2005, 12:40

bse_Nero7WA.dll - new version is out (small bugfix)

DaWolfman · 12th November 2005, 23:29

Thanks again, dimzon.

DaWolfman · 13th November 2005, 21:30

Hey, I recommended your drivers to someone else, and they had this problem:

The plugin seems to work pretty well, but I've come across some strange file name errors. I'm trying to encode an AAC that can be muxed with MP4Box into an mp4 (along with a x264 video track) and then be played with Quicktime. (-aacprofile_lc -exportaac both seem to be required to work with Quicktime.)

.acc output specified = do nothing
.mp4 output specified = .aac output with .acc extension
no extension specified = .aac output in an mp4 with no extension

BeSweet v1.5b31 by DSPguru.
Using Shibatch.dll v0.25 by Naoki Shibata & DSPguru (shibatch.sourceforge.net).
Using bse_Nero7WA.dll by dimzon, Build Nov 10 2005, 14:35:28

My commandline:
besweet.exe -core( -input extracted_audio.wav -output encoded_audio.mp4 -2ch ) -ota( -g -10db ) -dimzon( -dllname bse_Nero7WA.dll -vbr_tape -aacprofile_lc -exportaac )

bond · 13th November 2005, 21:33

outputting .aac with nero and than remuxing with mp4box will not play in qt, as nero outputs .aac as "mpeg-2 aac"

mpeg-2 aac is the same as mpeg-4 aac, but still qt doesnt want to play it

yeah apple sucks...

outputting aac in .mp4 with nero and than remuxing with mp4box works

SeeMoreDigital · 13th November 2005, 22:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by bond

outputting .aac with nero and than remuxing with mp4box will not play in qt, as nero outputs .aac as "mpeg-2 aac"

When I generate Nero AAC (.aac) streams with Foobar2000, they all work fine in QT7

bond · 13th November 2005, 22:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeeMoreDigital

When I generate Nero AAC (.aac) streams with Foobar2000, they all work fine in QT7

you encode .aac, remux to .mp4 with mp4box (!) and than play this output .mp4 in qt7?

SeeMoreDigital · 21st November 2005, 21:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by bond

you encode .aac, remux to .mp4 with mp4box (!) and than play this output .mp4 in qt7?

Yes... they play in QT7 fine and every other software media player!

As you may already know. I prefer to play my AAC encodes in hardware

Boardlord · 26th November 2005, 11:21

Hello guys!
I'm using this command line:

Code:

BeSweet.exe -core( -input "D:\80ms.AC3" -output "D:\80ms.mp4"  -logfile "D:\80ms.log" ) -azid( -s stereo
 -c normal ) -dimzon( -dllname bse_Nero7WA.dll -2ch -vbr_streaming -aacprofile_he ) -ssrc( --rate 44100 )

And this is what I get:

Code:

BeSweet v1.5b31 by DSPguru.
--------------------------
Using azid.dll v1.9 (b922) by Midas  (midas@egon.gyaloglo.hu).
Using Shibatch.dll v0.25 by Naoki Shibata & DSPguru (shibatch.sourceforge.net).
Using bse_Nero7WA.dll by dimzon, Build Nov 10 2005, 14:35:28

Logging start : 11/26/05 , 11:18:09.

BeSweet.exe -core( -input D:\80ms.ac3 -output D:\80ms.mp4 -logfile D:\80ms.log ) -azid( -s stereo -c normal )
 -dimzon( -dllname bse_Nero7WA.dll -2ch -vbr_streaming -aacprofile_he ) -ssrc( --rate 44100 ) 

[00:00:00:000] +------- BeSweet -----                          
[00:00:00:000] |  Input : D:\80ms.ac3
[00:00:00:000] |  Output: D:\80ms.mp4
[00:00:00:000] |  Floating-Point Process: No
Error 84: error configuring bsn!
Quiting...
[00:00:00:000] Conversion Completed !                                    

Logging ends : 11/26/05 , 11:18:09.

I have the nero 7 (7.0.1.2) dlls in the besweet folder, have mfc71.dll there too.
I'm at a loss...

Thanks for the help!

Edit: I hate XP! For easier reinstalling of this +"!#&@ OS, I install it to a smaller partition, and the bigger one is for my stuff (videos, music, utils...). That's why I changed my program files dir in the registry to d:\program files. And.... changing it back to c:\program files... Voila, the transcoding works.
The only thing bothers me, is that with the old Nero/bsn this wasn't an issue for me...

buzzqw · 8th December 2005, 20:40

Hi Dimzon !

Since all temporary hosting have deleted "bse_Nero7WA.dll " , coud you please repost it or attach here ?

thanks !

BHH

dimzon · 9th December 2005, 10:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by buzzqw

Hi Dimzon !

Since all temporary hosting have deleted "bse_Nero7WA.dll " , coud you please repost it or attach here ?

thanks !

BHH

I can't - my HDD is dead and I lost it

buzzqw · 9th December 2005, 10:14

OUCH !!!

@ALL

anyone that have downloaded this file can repost it ?

BHH

odyn1982 · 9th December 2005, 10:15

New upload of "bse_Nero7WA.dll"
http://www.mytempdir.com/308294

hubereevez · 29th December 2005, 14:00

Dunno if this is the right place to post.

I had to reencode my audio tracks since the channel mapping was broken. Problem: now my tracks are larger, and both video and audio do not fit on a cd anymore.

Could I add something to the command line

Code:

-azid( -c normal ) -dimzon( -dllname bse_Nero7WA.dll -6chnew -vbr_streaming -codecquality_high -aacprofile_he ) -ota( -d 0 -g max )

to fit a specific size ?

And why are the file bigger now ? (I saw something on the forum about new internal audio settings in Nero 7.x)

Thanks

Hubert

dimzon · 29th December 2005, 14:22

Code:

-azid( -c normal ) -dimzon( -dllname bse_Nero7WA.dll -6chnew -cbr 256  -codecquality_high -aacprofile_he ) -ota( -d 0 -g max )

use CBR instead of VBR to fit specific size!

hubereevez · 29th December 2005, 16:03

Thanks.

But for now, is it possible to reduce the size for future encoding with -vbr_streaming or shoudl I use another preset ?

The file are much bigger now, aren't they ? What did nero ? Increased the quality of -vbr_streaming ?

dimzon · 29th December 2005, 16:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by hubereevez

The file are much bigger now, aren't they ? What did nero ? Increased the quality of -vbr_streaming ?

VBR mode based on psy model, Nero performs multiple tweaks in Nero7 AAC psy...

Kurtnoise · 29th December 2005, 16:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by dimzon

Code:

-azid( -c normal ) -dimzon( -dllname bse_Nero7WA.dll -6chnew -cbr 256  -codecquality_high -aacprofile_he ) -ota( -d 0 -g max )

use CBR instead of VBR to fit specific size!

well...just look around the target bitrate of your transcoded file and you'll see that this is not equal to 256 kbps. (5.1 encoding with Nero AAC is very special concerning the bitrates values).

mazzo85 · 3rd January 2006, 14:58

@ALL

anyone that have downloaded this file can repost it ?

buzzqw · 3rd January 2006, 15:12

look here

http://corecodec.org/frs/?group_id=4...se_id=235#r235

(p.s. i found you everywhere..., if you are even on doom9it)

BHH

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bond Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 9,770	outputting .aac with nero and than remuxing with mp4box will not play in qt, as nero outputs .aac as "mpeg-2 aac" mpeg-2 aac is the same as mpeg-4 aac, but still qt doesnt want to play it yeah apple sucks... outputting aac in .mp4 with nero and than remuxing with mp4box works __________________ Between the weak and the strong one it is the freedom which oppresses and the law that liberates (Jean Jacques Rousseau) I know, that I know nothing (Socrates) MPEG-4 ASP FAQ \| AVC/H.264 FAQ \| AAC FAQ \| MP4 FAQ \| MP4Menu stores DVD Menus in MP4 (guide) Ogg Theora \| Ogg Vorbis use WM9 today and get Micro$oft controlling the A/V market tomorrow for free

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hubereevez Star member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 236	Dunno if this is the right place to post. I had to reencode my audio tracks since the channel mapping was broken. Problem: now my tracks are larger, and both video and audio do not fit on a cd anymore. Could I add something to the command line Code: -azid( -c normal ) -dimzon( -dllname bse_Nero7WA.dll -6chnew -vbr_streaming -codecquality_high -aacprofile_he ) -ota( -d 0 -g max ) to fit a specific size ? And why are the file bigger now ? (I saw something on the forum about new internal audio settings in Nero 7.x) Thanks Hubert

29th December 2005, 14:22	#55 \| Link
dimzon BeHappy/MeGUI developer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 1,727	Code: -azid( -c normal ) -dimzon( -dllname bse_Nero7WA.dll -6chnew -cbr 256 -codecquality_high -aacprofile_he ) -ota( -d 0 -g max ) use CBR instead of VBR to fit specific size! __________________ BeHappy - AviSynth-based audio transcoding tool Audio encoding via AviSynth On2 VP7 is great in quality but it is unusable for long-term video backup puposes! Sincerely Yours, MCPD/MCTS

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buzzqw HDConvertToX author Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Cesena,Italy Posts: 6,552	look here http://corecodec.org/frs/?group_id=4...se_id=235#r235 (p.s. i found you everywhere..., if you are even on doom9it) BHH __________________ HDConvertToX: your tool for BD backup MultiX264: The quick gui for x264 AutoMen: The Mencoder GUI AutoWebM: supporting WebM/VP8

12th November 2005, 23:29	#43 \| Link
DaWolfman Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 7	Thanks again, dimzon.

13th November 2005, 21:30	#44 \| Link
DaWolfman Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 7	Hey, I recommended your drivers to someone else, and they had this problem: The plugin seems to work pretty well, but I've come across some strange file name errors. I'm trying to encode an AAC that can be muxed with MP4Box into an mp4 (along with a x264 video track) and then be played with Quicktime. (-aacprofile_lc -exportaac both seem to be required to work with Quicktime.) .acc output specified = do nothing .mp4 output specified = .aac output with .acc extension no extension specified = .aac output in an mp4 with no extension BeSweet v1.5b31 by DSPguru. Using Shibatch.dll v0.25 by Naoki Shibata & DSPguru (shibatch.sourceforge.net). Using bse_Nero7WA.dll by dimzon, Build Nov 10 2005, 14:35:28 My commandline: besweet.exe -core( -input extracted_audio.wav -output encoded_audio.mp4 -2ch ) -ota( -g -10db ) -dimzon( -dllname bse_Nero7WA.dll -vbr_tape -aacprofile_lc -exportaac )

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buzzqw HDConvertToX author Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Cesena,Italy Posts: 6,552	Hi Dimzon ! Since all temporary hosting have deleted "bse_Nero7WA.dll " , coud you please repost it or attach here ? thanks ! BHH

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buzzqw HDConvertToX author Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Cesena,Italy Posts: 6,552	OUCH !!! @ALL anyone that have downloaded this file can repost it ? BHH

9th December 2005, 10:15	#53 \| Link
odyn1982 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Poland Posts: 25	New upload of "bse_Nero7WA.dll" http://www.mytempdir.com/308294

29th December 2005, 16:03	#56 \| Link
hubereevez Star member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 236	Thanks. But for now, is it possible to reduce the size for future encoding with -vbr_streaming or shoudl I use another preset ? The file are much bigger now, aren't they ? What did nero ? Increased the quality of -vbr_streaming ?

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mazzo85 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 2	@ALL anyone that have downloaded this file can repost it ?

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