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Old 7th April 2005, 20:13   #21  |  Link
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I suppose you can use ChapterXtractor if you want. The chapter format is simply
HH:MM:SS;FF/30
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Yes....

There just seems to be so many ways of logging chapters. Here are DVDdecrypters options: -
Code:
CCE: -

chapter=0:
chapter=6508:
chapter=11114:
chapter=14496:
chapter=18831:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
DVDLab: -

00:00:00:000
00:04:20:000
00:07:24:000
00:09:39:000
00:12:33:000
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
IfoEdit: -

6508
11114
14496
18831
22315
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
LBA: -

CHAPTER_01:VTS_02_1 - 0xE0 - Video - MPEG-2 - 720x576 (PAL) - 16~9 - Letterboxed.M2V:0
CHAPTER_02:VTS_02_1 - 0xE0 - Video - MPEG-2 - 720x576 (PAL) - 16~9 - Letterboxed.M2V:79291
CHAPTER_03:VTS_02_1 - 0xE0 - Video - MPEG-2 - 720x576 (PAL) - 16~9 - Letterboxed.M2V:123554
CHAPTER_04:VTS_02_1 - 0xE0 - Video - MPEG-2 - 720x576 (PAL) - 16~9 - Letterboxed.M2V:161018
CHAPTER_05:VTS_02_1 - 0xE0 - Video - MPEG-2 - 720x576 (PAL) - 16~9 - Letterboxed.M2V:206059
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
OGG: -

CHAPTER01=00:00:00.000
CHAPTER01NAME=Chapter 1
CHAPTER02=00:04:20.320
CHAPTER02NAME=Chapter 2
CHAPTER03=00:07:24.560
CHAPTER03NAME=Chapter 3
CHAPTER04=00:09:39.840
CHAPTER04NAME=Chapter 4
CHAPTER05=00:12:33.240
CHAPTER05NAME=Chapter 5
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Scenarist: -

00:00:00;00
00:04:20;08
00:07:24;14
00:09:39;21
00:12:33;06
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
DVDMaestro: -

$Spruce_IFrame_List

00:00:00:00
00:04:20:08
00:07:24:14
00:09:39:21
00:12:33:06
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
BSPlayer: -

[CHAPTERS]
1=0 Chapter 1
2=6508 Chapter 2
3=11114 Chapter 3
4=14496 Chapter 4
5=18831 Chapter 5
What a shame DVD's were never designed to display the names of the chapters too. Can be done for chapters within the MP4 container?


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Old 7th April 2005, 21:08   #23  |  Link
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The chapter names are stored inside the mp4 file. It's probably what's displayed by the player. Nero stores 'Chapter n'.
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Are you able to experiment and report back?


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Quote:
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I've made a patch to mp4box (gpac-0.2.4rc4) to support adding chapters.
katjarella reports that this patch is obviously not working in GPAC dev build 0.2.5 by celtic-druid?!
Code:
Option -chpl unknown. Please check usage
If the code is indeed already included, maybe just the command line parsing was not updated...

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I've just sent them the patch. I don't think they have included it yet.
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chapter names are indeed supported.
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Old 7th April 2005, 23:46   #28  |  Link
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@ hhanh00
Well done hhanh00
You could upload your patched mp4box build in http://www.yousendit.com
or http://rapidshare.de/en/webhosting.html until they include it.
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You could upload your patched mp4box build in http://www.yousendit.com
or http://rapidshare.de/en/webhosting.html until they include it. [/B]
slow guys slow

jeanlf now added chaptersupport to mp4box, but he changed hhanh00's code a little bit

so a plain cvs mp4box compile would be the best way to go atm (maybe someone wants to send celtic_druid a pm), but beaware that this option is not tested at all, so only use it for testing atm!
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I suppose you can use ChapterXtractor if you want. The chapter format is simply
HH:MM:SS;FF/30
30 is fps? This means for Europe 25?

Okay I createt a new preset in Chapter Extractor with:

00:00:00;00/25
00:01:21;80/25

Does this file work as Chapter.chp or as chapter.txt?
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mp4box should support the following input formats according to the changelog:

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currently support for (one chapter entry per line):
ZoomPlayer syntax: AddChapter (-fps for import framerate selection), AddChapterBySecond and AddChapterByTime
Regular time code … la SRT: HH:MM:SS[:ms or .ms] [Chapter Name]
SMPTE time code: HH:MM:SS;fr/fps [Chapter Name] - if fps is omitted, use '-fps' if specified or 25 fps default.
and the so called "ogg format":
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added support for new chaper format: CHAPTERX=HH:MM:SS[:ms or .ms] and CHAPTERXNAME=string
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mp4box should support the following input formats according to the changelog:
SMPTE time code: HH:MM:SS;fr/fps [Chapter Name]
What means fr? number of frames in the chapter?

Edit: Itīs cc in frames.

So the only thing what is left for me is, if it should be *.chp file or *.txt or whatever?
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timecodes can either be specified with 1/100 of seconds, or with frames. Many formats use frames because it's always accurate and more obvious than writing out 17/23.976..
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timecodes can either be specified with 1/100 of seconds, or with frames. Many formats use frames because it's always accurate and more obvious than writing out 17/23.976..
Thanks for this information. I programmed Chapter Extractor to output the followind *.txt file:

00:00:00;00/25 Chapter 1
00:04:08;04/25 Chapter 2
00:09:17;01/25 Chapter 3
00:11:39;00/25 Chapter 4
00:14:31;08/25 Chapter 5
00:15:58;02/25 Chapter 6
00:22:10;02/25 Chapter 7
00:28:12;00/25 Chapter 8

Can I import this as txt or chp?
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Or, I guess it could be expressed like this: -
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00:07:24:14 Chapter 3

Whereby, 14 would represent the 14th frame out of 25 for a PAL encode
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guys why not simply use the good old ogg chapter format
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guys why not simply use the good old ogg chapter format
According to DVDdecrypter, the OGG chapter format is presented like this: -
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CHAPTER03=00:07:24.560
CHAPTER03NAME=Chapter 3
Is this what you mean?


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Is this what you mean?
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sure
It looks like the OGG method also supports chapter naming... Such as this: -
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CHAPTER03=00:07:24.560
CHAPTER03NAME=Street Scene
... So I'm in!


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http://4nykey.nm.ru/misc/gpac.7z

Latest mp4box build,compiled in 10-Apr-2005,supports nero chapters with -chap command and accepts the ogg chapter format.
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