Welcome to Doom9's Forum, THE in-place to be for everyone interested in DVD conversion.

Before you start posting please read the forum rules. By posting to this forum you agree to abide by the rules.

 

Go Back   Doom9's Forum > (HD) DVD, Blu-ray & (S)VCD > IFO/VOB Editors

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 2nd January 2005, 02:31   #341  |  Link
jsoto
Just a Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Spain
Posts: 2,067
Quote:
except when you have to replace a verry high number of cells (in case of a slide show, for example.)
You're right. I forgot this case.
jsoto
__________________
Web sites with my tools
http://download.videohelp.com/jsoto
http://jsoto.posunplugged.com/
jsoto is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2nd January 2005, 02:35   #342  |  Link
DMagic1
Registered User
 
DMagic1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 504
Could you add the feature to save the IFOs in another location and still account for the VOBs? Right now it states that the VOBs are not accounted for when you save to a different location.
DMagic1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2nd January 2005, 02:46   #343  |  Link
r0lZ
PgcEdit daemon
 
r0lZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 7,034
Humm. Difficult to do.
Anyway, the IFOs saved to a new location are not usable without the VOBs. So, you must consider them as a backup.
If you need to burn them, you will need to add the VOBs anyway, and recalculating the correct VTS sectors is just a matter of loading the IFOs in PgcEdit, and saving them back. You can use the Get VTS Sectors function of IfoEdit, too.
__________________
r0lZ
PgcEdit homepage (hosted by VideoHelp)
BD3D2MK3D A tool to convert 3D blu-rays to SBS, T&B or FS MKV
r0lZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2nd January 2005, 03:02   #344  |  Link
DMagic1
Registered User
 
DMagic1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 504
Yes I know they need the vobs anyway. Yes for backups.
DMagic1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2nd January 2005, 10:32   #345  |  Link
DMagic1
Registered User
 
DMagic1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 504
Quote:
Originally posted by r0lZ
Humm. Difficult to do.
Anyway, the IFOs saved to a new location are not usable without the VOBs. So, you must consider them as a backup.
If you need to burn them, you will need to add the VOBs anyway, and recalculating the correct VTS sectors is just a matter of loading the IFOs in PgcEdit, and saving them back. You can use the Get VTS Sectors function of IfoEdit, too.
If it could do that it would be great. I don't know if you tell it to overwrite in the current directory when you save or not. I don't know if its as simple as that. I would greatly appreciate it if it could save in a different folder the ifos and bups.
DMagic1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2nd January 2005, 20:41   #346  |  Link
jeanl
Registered User
 
jeanl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: California, USA
Posts: 2,079
cell command, something's not working

Guys,
I'm having a problem with cell commands. I'm adding one to the first cell of the main movie, linking to the the tail, using PgcEdit. The trace function shows the right behavior, playback stops at the end of the first cell, but in PowerDVD, nothing happens!
I'm baffled...
Is there something I'm missing here? Adding a cell command is pretty simple, right? Add it to the cell-command area, then enter the cell command number in the PGC editor for the appropriate cell, right?

What is it I'm missing?!
Jeanl
__________________
A few PgcEdit guides.
DVDSubEdit a free tool to edit subtitles directly inside the vob.
jeanl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2nd January 2005, 23:11   #347  |  Link
jsoto
Just a Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Spain
Posts: 2,067
Yep, same here, even using PowerDVD6. But WinDVD5 shows the right (the expected one) behavior.

Seems a bug of PowerDVD

jsoto
__________________
Web sites with my tools
http://download.videohelp.com/jsoto
http://jsoto.posunplugged.com/
jsoto is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2nd January 2005, 23:23   #348  |  Link
jeanl
Registered User
 
jeanl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: California, USA
Posts: 2,079
Quote:
Originally posted by jsoto
Yep, same here, even using PowerDVD6. But WinDVD5 shows the right (the expected one) behavior.

Seems a bug of PowerDVD

jsoto
that's hard to believe! Lots of PGCs do count on cell commands! I would imagine that lots of DVDs would play wrong with such a big bug...
EDIT: well, in fact, most of the cell commands I've seen are in menus domain, and it might be that the PowerDVD "bug" is only in the title domain?
Jeanl
__________________
A few PgcEdit guides.
DVDSubEdit a free tool to edit subtitles directly inside the vob.

Last edited by jeanl; 2nd January 2005 at 23:43.
jeanl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2nd January 2005, 23:58   #349  |  Link
jeanl
Registered User
 
jeanl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: California, USA
Posts: 2,079
well I checked the powerDVD "bug" by adding a cell command in the menu domain, and that worked as expected...
Now, I'm puzzled... I'm using version 4.0, and jsoto with version 6 seems to have the same problem. I can't believe such a big bug could actually exist. Is there something I'm not understanding with cell commands in the title domain?
Are there restrictions I'm not aware of?

Jeanl
__________________
A few PgcEdit guides.
DVDSubEdit a free tool to edit subtitles directly inside the vob.
jeanl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd January 2005, 00:15   #350  |  Link
blutach
Country Member
 
blutach's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: is everything!
Posts: 6,499
You're doing everything same as me jean.

However, and a bit OT, so I apologise, I have always wondered why a title has a cell command to LinkTailPGC in say, its last cell or next to last cell (if there's a 1 sec last cell).

Makes no sense (at least to this uneducated bum)! Why don't they let the cell complete its playback and link to the post commands anyway?

PS. I have no prblems with PowerDVD 5 with this. But my high end player doesn't seem to like em (occasionally). Sh&ts the living daylights outa me.
__________________
Les

Only use genuine Verbatim or Taiyo Yuden media.
blutach is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd January 2005, 00:36   #351  |  Link
jeanl
Registered User
 
jeanl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: California, USA
Posts: 2,079
Quote:
Originally posted by blutach
You're doing everything same as me jean.

However, and a bit OT, so I apologise, I have always wondered why a title has a cell command to LinkTailPGC in say, its last cell or next to last cell (if there's a 1 sec last cell).

Makes no sense (at least to this uneducated bum)! Why don't they let the cell complete its playback and link to the post commands anyway?

Yes, I've often wondered about that!

Quote:

PS. I have no prblems with PowerDVD 5 with this. But my high end player doesn't seem to like em (occasionally). Sh&ts the living daylights outa me.
Wait, are you saying that PowerDVD5 does the normal thing when it encounters a cell command in the title domain?
Jeanl
__________________
A few PgcEdit guides.
DVDSubEdit a free tool to edit subtitles directly inside the vob.
jeanl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd January 2005, 00:45   #352  |  Link
r0lZ
PgcEdit daemon
 
r0lZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 7,034
I don't have PowerDVD, but WinDVD works well. So, I agree with jsoto: it must be a bug in PowerDVD.
__________________
r0lZ
PgcEdit homepage (hosted by VideoHelp)
BD3D2MK3D A tool to convert 3D blu-rays to SBS, T&B or FS MKV
r0lZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd January 2005, 00:59   #353  |  Link
jeanl
Registered User
 
jeanl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: California, USA
Posts: 2,079
is winDVD free? I don't seem to have that on my machine...
Jeanl
__________________
A few PgcEdit guides.
DVDSubEdit a free tool to edit subtitles directly inside the vob.
jeanl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd January 2005, 01:22   #354  |  Link
blutach
Country Member
 
blutach's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: is everything!
Posts: 6,499
Quote:
Originally posted by jeanl
Wait, are you saying that PowerDVD5 does the normal thing when it encounters a cell command in the title domain?
Jeanl
Oui.
__________________
Les

Only use genuine Verbatim or Taiyo Yuden media.
blutach is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd January 2005, 14:35   #355  |  Link
r0lZ
PgcEdit daemon
 
r0lZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 7,034
@jeanl
No, WinDVD is not free.

BTW, have you tried to change the cell type flags? Perhaps PowerDVD will work fine if you change the SCR discontinuity or the seamless flag...
__________________
r0lZ
PgcEdit homepage (hosted by VideoHelp)
BD3D2MK3D A tool to convert 3D blu-rays to SBS, T&B or FS MKV
r0lZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd January 2005, 14:39   #356  |  Link
r0lZ
PgcEdit daemon
 
r0lZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 7,034
PgcEdit 0.4.6

PgcEdit v0.4.6 released.
  • Info -> Go To Calling Command function.
  • Menu Buttons Viewer now displays the video in the correct aspect ratio, and selects the buttons group matching the player setup in Trace mode.
  • Miscellaneous enhancements and little bug fixes in Menu Buttons viewer and Trace mode.
  • PGC Editor: The total number of buttons displayed in the PGC selector was wrong after the user accepted the modifs in the PGC Editor. Fixed.
  • New 'Play All' Title: Fixed the Next, Prev and GoUp PGCN of the new PGC.
__________________
r0lZ
PgcEdit homepage (hosted by VideoHelp)
BD3D2MK3D A tool to convert 3D blu-rays to SBS, T&B or FS MKV
r0lZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd January 2005, 18:09   #357  |  Link
jeanl
Registered User
 
jeanl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: California, USA
Posts: 2,079
Quote:
Originally posted by r0lZ
@jeanl
No, WinDVD is not free.

BTW, have you tried to change the cell type flags? Perhaps PowerDVD will work fine if you change the SCR discontinuity or the seamless flag...
mmmm didn't think of that, I'll try that and report...
Jeanl
__________________
A few PgcEdit guides.
DVDSubEdit a free tool to edit subtitles directly inside the vob.
jeanl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd January 2005, 22:09   #358  |  Link
2COOL
PGC Navigator in Training
 
2COOL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: NTSC Land
Posts: 3,552
I got a -1 Title when using a my trace with a FBI warning in my VMGM. No big deal to me but confusing for someone new joining the scene.

__________________
2COOL
2COOL is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd January 2005, 22:58   #359  |  Link
2COOL
PGC Navigator in Training
 
2COOL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: NTSC Land
Posts: 3,552
@r0lZ

Clarification needed.

__________________
2COOL
2COOL is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4th January 2005, 05:52   #360  |  Link
jeanl
Registered User
 
jeanl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: California, USA
Posts: 2,079
Quote:
Originally posted by r0lZ
@jeanl
BTW, have you tried to change the cell type flags? Perhaps PowerDVD will work fine if you change the SCR discontinuity or the seamless flag...
BINGO!
r0lZ, you nailed it on the head. Indeed, if I remove the seamless flag on the cell that has the cell command, then PowerDVD does not ignore the cell command... I don't need to put a SRC discontinuity (although I would think it would be a good idea)...

Maybe there's something to be learned here. Maybe PgcEdit should automatically clear the seamless flag if there's a cell command... I'm not sure what the specs say, but if PowerDVD fails on that kind of stuff, that's not good. I'll go and check whether cells that have cell commands are usually not flagged as seamless.

r0lZ, what do you think?

Jeanl

EDIT: Here's what I found on a few DVDs:
- In the menu domain, I've seen cells with cell commands that were flagged as seamless, but that was rare.
- In the title domain, all the cells that had cell commands were never flagged as seamless. I didn't find many such examples, but I have one DVD with a lot of BOV (buttons over video) and cell commands in the title domain.
__________________
A few PgcEdit guides.
DVDSubEdit a free tool to edit subtitles directly inside the vob.

Last edited by jeanl; 4th January 2005 at 06:00.
jeanl is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 20:08.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions Inc.