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Old 6th November 2004, 14:42   #361  |  Link
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Admit to being stumped here.... My only thought - I do trust there is actually a PGC4 in that menu?
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I've just moved whole DVD through PGCedit's "enable all operations". It's hopeless. Seems, it's something else.
There are PUOPs in vobs as well. Don't think PGCEdit changes these. This may be the reason.

You may try IfoEdit to strip them all in vobs, or DvdReMake Pro to set the ones you need (or just strip them all)
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Admit to being stumped here.... My only thought - I do trust there is actually a PGC4 in that menu?
Ok. There is more info.
So, NextPG doesn't work at PGC3->PGC4 transition, but works at PGC4->PGC6 transition.
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VMGM , LU 1 (ru) , 3 (0:07) 0b. - Chapters: n/a, Programs: 1, Cells: 1

********** pre commands:
[71 00 00 01 00 00 00 00] 1 Set gprm(1) =(mov) 0
[71 00 00 02 00 00 00 00] 2 Set gprm(2) =(mov) 0
[71 00 00 03 00 02 00 00] 3 Set gprm(3) =(mov) 2
[71 00 00 04 00 00 00 00] 4 Set gprm(4) =(mov) 0
[71 00 00 05 00 00 00 00] 5 Set gprm(5) =(mov) 0
[71 00 00 06 00 00 00 00] 6 Set gprm(6) =(mov) 0
********** post commands:
[20 04 00 00 00 00 00 04] 1 LinkPGCN PGC 4
********** cell commands:

********** menu buttons commands:


Playback time: 00:00:07.25 (at 30 fps)
Playback mode: sequential
PUOs: 16007172 (0x00F44004)
- Title play (0x00000004)
- Menu call - Angle (0x00004000)
- Still off (0x00040000)
- Audio stream change (0x00100000)
- Subpicture stream change (0x00200000)
- Angle change (0x00400000)
- Karaoke audio mix change (0x00800000)
NextPGCN: 4
PrevPGCN: 0
GoUpPGCN: 0
PGC Still Time: 0

But- Prog. Cell Type Layer Res- Still Cell Playback End Entry First Last Last VOB Cell
tons Flags Break tric- Timel Cmd. Time Time VOBU ILVU VOBU VOBU ID ID
ted. sector End Start End

0 1 1 2 yes no 0 0 00:00:07.25 00:00:07.25 0 0 60 60 1 1
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VMGM , LU 1 (ru) , 4 (0:10) 0b. - Chapters: n/a, Programs: 2, Cells: 2

********** pre commands:
********** post commands:
[20 04 00 00 00 00 00 06] 1 LinkPGCN PGC 6
********** cell commands:

********** menu buttons commands:


Playback time: 00:00:10.11 (at 30 fps)
Playback mode: sequential
PUOs: 16007172 (0x00F44004)
- Title play (0x00000004)
- Menu call - Angle (0x00004000)
- Still off (0x00040000)
- Audio stream change (0x00100000)
- Subpicture stream change (0x00200000)
- Angle change (0x00400000)
- Karaoke audio mix change (0x00800000)
NextPGCN: 6
PrevPGCN: 3
GoUpPGCN: 0
PGC Still Time: 0
Audio stream 1 status: 0x00008000 (stream=0)

But- Prog. Cell Type Layer Res- Still Cell Playback End Entry First Last Last VOB Cell
tons Flags Break tric- Timel Cmd. Time Time VOBU ILVU VOBU VOBU ID ID
ted. sector End Start End

0 1 1 2 yes no 0 0 00:00:10.00 00:00:10.00 61 0 3744 3762 3 1
0 2 2 8 no no 0 0 00:00:00.11 00:00:10.11 3763 0 3763 3792 3 2
Sorry for such unreadable info about cells, just copy-pasted from PGCedit

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Old 6th November 2004, 20:56   #364  |  Link
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There are PUOPs in vobs as well. Don't think PGCEdit changes these. This may be the reason.

You may try IfoEdit to strip them all in vobs, or DvdReMake Pro to set the ones you need (or just strip them all)
Humm... When I tried to export Test DVD with DvdReMake Pro 2.2.0, I found that all PGC commands were killed...

Anyway, I don't think it's because of PUOPs at all.
May be something else... But I'm working with DVD just a little time, I don't know much about it...
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Though I'm not a technical expert on this matter, I have disturbing feeling about your VOBUs (Video OBject Unit) being equal with a playback time of 00:00:07.25 /30 fps. Maybe mpucoder or someone else could comment whether or not it's ok. Don't know if VOBUs and and your NextPG button have anything to do with each other.

This is regards to your VMGM , LU 1 (ru) , 3

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But-  Prog. Cell  Type  Layer Res-  Still Cell  Playback     End          Entry    First    Last     Last     VOB Cell
tons              Flags Break tric- Timel Cmd.  Time         Time         VOBU     ILVU     VOBU     VOBU     ID  ID
                              ted.                                        sector   End      Start    End

0     1     1     2     yes   no    0     0     00:00:07.25  00:00:07.25  0        0        60       60       1   1
Just putting in another &#50&#162.
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I just had my "low disk space" alert going off on my computer. I did a size search for files that I can delete and found this.



Let me quote a line from "The Princess Bride"..."Hello, my name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die!". No...not that one , ummmm...this one

INCONCEIVABLE!!!

Anyways, this file was found in my C:\Documents and Settings\username\Local Settings\Temp

I feel it's still growing each day. What's feeding it and also what's the consequences if I delete it?

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You will need to delete the files manually.
- Delete the PgcEdit's install directory (with PgcEdit.exe and a bin subdirectory).
- Delete the shortcuts pointing to PgcEdit if you created some (in the startup menu, the QuickLaunch menu, the desktop...)
- Delete the configuration directory C:\Documents and settings\<YOUR_USER_NAME>\Application Data\PgcEdit
That's all.
In regards to your comments on manually uninstalling, does it target this file too in auto-uninstalling?
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1. Where I can get valid VOBU start, end (according to this video)?

2. Can you examine PGC4 info? It seems, there is wrong too...

3. Can I use this tables?
Code:
[00000000] 	End byte of VMGM_VOBU_ADMAP	235	[000000eb]
[00000004] 	  VOBU_1: start sector	0	[00000000]
[00000008] 	  VOBU_2: start sector	46	[0000002e]
[0000000c] 	  VOBU_3: start sector	47	[0000002f]
[00000010] 	  VOBU_4: start sector	48	[00000030]
[00000014] 	  VOBU_5: start sector	49	[00000031]
[00000018] 	  VOBU_6: start sector	50	[00000032]
[0000001c] 	  VOBU_7: start sector	51	[00000033]
[00000020] 	  VOBU_8: start sector	52	[00000034]
[00000024] 	  VOBU_9: start sector	53	[00000035]
[00000028] 	  VOBU_10: start sector	54	[00000036]
[0000002c] 	  VOBU_11: start sector	55	[00000037]
[00000030] 	  VOBU_12: start sector	56	[00000038]
[00000034] 	  VOBU_13: start sector	57	[00000039]
[00000038] 	  VOBU_14: start sector	58	[0000003a]
[0000003c] 	  VOBU_15: start sector	59	[0000003b]
[00000040] 	  VOBU_16: start sector	60	[0000003c]
[00000044] 	  VOBU_17: start sector	61	[0000003d]
[00000048] 	  VOBU_18: start sector	74	[0000004a]
[0000004c] 	  VOBU_19: start sector	192	[000000c0]
[00000050] 	  VOBU_20: start sector	341	[00000155]
[00000054] 	  VOBU_21: start sector	532	[00000214]
[00000058] 	  VOBU_22: start sector	846	[0000034e]
[0000005c] 	  VOBU_23: start sector	1035	[0000040b]
[00000060] 	  VOBU_24: start sector	1224	[000004c8]
[00000064] 	  VOBU_25: start sector	1406	[0000057e]
[00000068] 	  VOBU_26: start sector	1584	[00000630]
[0000006c] 	  VOBU_27: start sector	1763	[000006e3]
[00000070] 	  VOBU_28: start sector	1942	[00000796]
[00000074] 	  VOBU_29: start sector	2121	[00000849]
[00000078] 	  VOBU_30: start sector	2299	[000008fb]
[0000007c] 	  VOBU_31: start sector	2480	[000009b0]
[00000080] 	  VOBU_32: start sector	2659	[00000a63]
[00000084] 	  VOBU_33: start sector	2840	[00000b18]
[00000088] 	  VOBU_34: start sector	3019	[00000bcb]
[0000008c] 	  VOBU_35: start sector	3201	[00000c81]
[00000090] 	  VOBU_36: start sector	3382	[00000d36]
[00000094] 	  VOBU_37: start sector	3561	[00000de9]
[00000098] 	  VOBU_38: start sector	3700	[00000e74]
[0000009c] 	  VOBU_39: start sector	3744	[00000ea0]
[000000a0] 	  VOBU_40: start sector	3763	[00000eb3]
[000000a4] 	  VOBU_41: start sector	3793	[00000ed1]
[000000a8] 	  VOBU_42: start sector	3806	[00000ede]
[000000ac] 	  VOBU_43: start sector	3837	[00000efd]
[000000b0] 	  VOBU_44: start sector	3982	[00000f8e]
[000000b4] 	  VOBU_45: start sector	4143	[0000102f]
[000000b8] 	  VOBU_46: start sector	4280	[000010b8]
[000000bc] 	  VOBU_47: start sector	4420	[00001144]
[000000c0] 	  VOBU_48: start sector	4555	[000011cb]
[000000c4] 	  VOBU_49: start sector	4694	[00001256]
[000000c8] 	  VOBU_50: start sector	4843	[000012eb]
[000000cc] 	  VOBU_51: start sector	5017	[00001399]
[000000d0] 	  VOBU_52: start sector	5210	[0000145a]
[000000d4] 	  VOBU_53: start sector	5406	[0000151e]
[000000d8] 	  VOBU_54: start sector	5618	[000015f2]
[000000dc] 	  VOBU_55: start sector	5813	[000016b5]
[000000e0] 	  VOBU_56: start sector	6024	[00001788]
[000000e4] 	  VOBU_57: start sector	6211	[00001843]
[000000e8] 	  VOBU_58: start sector	6250	[0000186a]
Code:
[00000000] 	Number of VOBs (VOB ID's) in VMGM_VOBS	4	[0004]
[00000004] 	End byte of VMGM_C_ADT table	79	[0000004f]
[00000008] 	  1. Cell: VOB ID	2	[0002]
[0000000a] 	  1. Cell: Cell ID	1	[01]
[0000000c] 	  1. Cell: Start sector	0	[00000000]
[00000010] 	  1. Cell: End sector	0	[00000000]
[00000014] 	  2. Cell: VOB ID	1	[0001]
[00000016] 	  2. Cell: Cell ID	1	[01]
[00000018] 	  2. Cell: Start sector	0	[00000000]
[0000001c] 	  2. Cell: End sector	60	[0000003c]
[00000020] 	  3. Cell: VOB ID	3	[0003]
[00000022] 	  3. Cell: Cell ID	1	[01]
[00000024] 	  3. Cell: Start sector	61	[0000003d]
[00000028] 	  3. Cell: End sector	3762	[00000eb2]
[0000002c] 	  4. Cell: VOB ID	3	[0003]
[0000002e] 	  4. Cell: Cell ID	2	[02]
[00000030] 	  4. Cell: Start sector	3763	[00000eb3]
[00000034] 	  4. Cell: End sector	3792	[00000ed0]
[00000038] 	  5. Cell: VOB ID	4	[0004]
[0000003a] 	  5. Cell: Cell ID	1	[01]
[0000003c] 	  5. Cell: Start sector	3793	[00000ed1]
[00000040] 	  5. Cell: End sector	6249	[00001869]
[00000044] 	  6. Cell: VOB ID	4	[0004]
[00000046] 	  6. Cell: Cell ID	2	[02]
[00000048] 	  6. Cell: Start sector	6250	[0000186a]
[0000004c] 	  6. Cell: End sector	6288	[00001890]
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I just had my "low disk space" alert going off on my computer. I did a size search for files that I can delete and found this.



Let me quote a line from "The Princess Bride"..."Hello, my name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die!". No...not that one , ummmm...this one

INCONCEIVABLE!!!

Anyways, this file was found in my C:\Documents and Settings\username\Local Settings\Temp

I feel it's still growing each day. What's feeding it and also what's the consequences if I delete it?

[EDIT]
In regards to your comments on manually uninstalling, does it target this file too in auto-uninstalling?
A short term fix for this might be to use your "cache cleaner" software (I use Zone Alarm) every day or so to kill temp files (and temp internet files).

Looks like a bloody big file though!!
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Also see at this

VMGM , LU 1 (ru) , 3
Code:
But-  Prog. Cell  Type  Layer Res-  Still Cell  Playback     End          Entry    First    Last     Last     VOB Cell
tons              Flags Break tric- Timel Cmd.  Time         Time         VOBU     ILVU     VOBU     VOBU     ID  ID
                              ted.                                        sector   End      Start    End

0     1     1     2     yes   no    0     0     00:00:07.25  00:00:07.25  0        0        60       60       1   1
VMGM , LU 1 (ru) , 4
Code:
But-  Prog. Cell  Type  Layer Res-  Still Cell  Playback     End          Entry    First    Last     Last     VOB Cell
tons              Flags Break tric- Timel Cmd.  Time         Time         VOBU     ILVU     VOBU     VOBU     ID  ID
                              ted.                                        sector   End      Start    End

0     1     1     2     yes   no    0     0     00:00:10.00  00:00:10.00  61       0        3744     3762     3   1
0     2     2     8     no    no    0     0     00:00:00.11  00:00:10.11  3763     0        3763     3792     3   2
So, maybe if last VOBU is very small, it's start & end can be in the same sector?
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How about doing a mock strip on your VIDEO_TS files? Use the mock stripping menus procedure. Maybe it'll correct something.
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Sorry for such unreadable info about cells, just copy-pasted from PGCedit
For a correctly formatted output, you have to print this info with fixed-width fonts. In the forum, just enclose the dump output in [ code ] [ /code ] marks (without the spaces).
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It's funny
When I open VIDEO_TS in IFOedit, VOBextras button is disabled.
It's enabled only on opening VTSx IFOs.
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I just had my "low disk space" alert going off on my computer. I did a size search for files that I can delete and found this.



Let me quote a line from "The Princess Bride"..."Hello, my name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die!". No...not that one , ummmm...this one

INCONCEIVABLE!!!

Anyways, this file was found in my C:\Documents and Settings\username\Local Settings\Temp

I feel it's still growing each day. What's feeding it and also what's the consequences if I delete it?

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In regards to your comments on manually uninstalling, does it target this file too in auto-uninstalling?
The size of this file is incredibly high. Maybe your DVD has many cells with many buttons, but I can't understand why it's so high. Normally, this file is overwrited each time you load a DVD in PgcEdit, and therefore must not grow. In a previous version, the file was deleted after being created and parsed, but I changed that to be able to examine the contents of the file in case of problems. I will revert to the old behavior...

And, no, the file is not automatically deleted when you uninstall PgcEdit. But the TEMP directory is theorically cleaned by Windows regularly. Of course, you may delete it manually. Sorry for the inconvenience...
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It's funny
When I open VIDEO_TS in IFOedit, VOBextras button is disabled.
It's enabled only on opening VTSx IFOs.
This is normal: VOB Extras is used to work on the Title's VOBs, and you cannot have titles in the VMG.
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Normally, this file is overwrited each time you load a DVD in PgcEdit, and therefore must not grow.
Just to test this out, I renamed the file. I assume PgcEdit would create another if I open up another DVD. It didn't. I checked while my PgcEdit session was still open and after closing it.

But I haven't seen any errors popping up without it yet. Ami I going to have a problem if that file which needs to be overwritten is not there?
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This is normal: VOB Extras is used to work on the Title's VOBs, and you cannot have titles in the VMG.
So, as I understand, I can't do a mock strip of VIDEO_TS at all?

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Another problem has appeared (in the same PGC)
It doesn't allow to make a time search.
I cann't find in IFOedit where else it could be.
Standard IDO PUOPs are cleared. How to edit VOB PUOPs?
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So, as I understand, I can't do a mock strip of VIDEO_TS at all?
Yes, you can! Just like the "mock stripping menus" says in my previous link, open up VIDEO_TS.IFO with IfoEdit and press MenuExtras button.

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Another problem has appeared (in the same PGC)
It doesn't allow to make a time search.
I cann't find in IFOedit where else it could be.
Standard IDO PUOPs are cleared. How to edit VOB PUOPs?
You would have to hexedit your VOBs since they are on your HD, which is a pain to tell you how to do it. The best way is to rip again with current DVD Decrypter and set your File Mode settings with PUOS for IFOs and VOBs checked.
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Anyway, I've just process whole DVD by VOBblanker with active "Remove PUOPs in VOBs" & "Remove PUOPs in IFOs" - it's useless...
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Anyway, I've just process whole DVD by VOBblanker with active "Remove PUOPs in VOBs" & "Remove PUOPs in IFOs" - it's useless...
What do you mean useless? You still have no changes in your situation? Then probably, you didn't have PUOS in your VOB. To really confirm if you do have them, open up your VIDEO_TS.VOB with VobEdit. In left window (LBA), select a [Navigation Pack]. You'll see data appear in right window. Scroll down to Byte 0035. If you don't have a zero value for Probihited U-OP, then you have PUOs existing. Randomly check other [Navigation Packs] in this VOB to confirm.
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Just to test this out, I renamed the file. I assume PgcEdit would create another if I open up another DVD. It didn't. I checked while my PgcEdit session was still open and after closing it.

But I haven't seen any errors popping up without it yet. Ami I going to have a problem if that file which needs to be overwritten is not there?
How it works: when you open (or reopen) a DVD, the standalone executable button_dump.exe is used to search all menu VOBs of the DVD for buttons. The output of the exe is redirected to a temporary file in TEMP. Therefore, for each titleset, a file is created in the TEMP dir: pgcedit_temp_button_0.tcl for the VMGM, pgcedit_temp_button_1.tcl for VTSM1, ...
Then, the files are sourced by PgcEdit to retrieve the menu buttons commands, positions, etc...
In the current version, the file is then deleted (I forgot I have changed this again).
If pgcedit_temp_button_3.tcl is still there, it must be because the new DVD you opened doesn't have a VTS 3. However, I don't understand why it is so big. I have just tested this with some DVD, and the size is never greather that approx 100 Kb.
Don't worry: you may safely delete it!
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