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Old 3rd October 2004, 23:37   #221  |  Link
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When I choose to blank a cell, my Action column for cell in question, goes from "Keep" to blank. At the same time, my Cat column now shows "Blank". I'm using v1.5.0.4.
Well, you found a bug. (This is due I've included an additional column). It's only a problem of representation. I'll fix it, but in the meantime, don't worry about it

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A VTS can be processed or skipped. When processing a VTS, the workflow is the following:
0.- Store IFO in memory.
1.- If Checkbox Process menus true:
1.1.-Process the Menu VOB file, PGC by PGC
1.2.-Process the IFO (Menu part) of the VTS (in memory).
2.- If Checkbox Process titles true:
2.1.-Process the Titles VOB files, PGC by PGC.
2.2.-Fix DSI navigational pointers if needed (cell by cell based)
2.3.-Process the IFO (Title part) of the VTS (in memory).
3.- If Checkbox Process IFO true:
3.1.- Process PUOPs (in memory)
3.2.- Write IFO & BUP

And, to know how long it will take when processing is selected, look at "Final Size" in VTS list. This gives you an idea..

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Old 3rd October 2004, 23:46   #222  |  Link
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Well, you found a bug. (This is due I've included an additional column). It's only a problem of representation. I'll fix it, but in the meantime, don't worry about it
OK but since I was doing screenshots for a guide at the time, I wanted to capture the changes. Anyways, no big deal.
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OK thanks, it's simpler than I thought. Unless "skip" is clicked the VOB file is processed and rewritten...
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jsoto,

I really like to use the cell blanking feature of vobblanker to split DVDs. This works great, also very fast. Unfortunately, the tool does not support the workflow very well. Therefore it would be cool to have some minor improvements.

One would be a multiple select in the cell list window so that I don't have to click on blank/keep for every cell individually. Another would be an optional feature to automatically add cell commands to the blanked cells. This should be either
- Link CN or Link PGN to link to the next non-blank cell/program
- Link Tail PGC when there is no non-blank cell/program following

I'm sure you got the idea (I think CloneDVD does it in a similar way).

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Interesting idea...
I'm a little bit busy in other things (not related with DVD backups) for the moment, but I'll take it into account.

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I've done a new build:
- maximum menus PGCs changed to 350.
- Bug in Cell list reported by 2COOL a few posts above fixed

http://www.posunplugged.com/jsoto/to...r_1505_exe.zip

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I have encountered an error message.

Error: Max Mpgcs Limit (350) has been reached.

Can you bump it up to 400?



Just joking...would like to have seen your reaction though.
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I will.

But, you know, if I was a better programmer I should use memory from the heap (new statement) instead of fixed arrays. But it is too hard to change it now...

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Error: Max Mpgcs Limit (350) has been reached.
FYI, this was a result from the bug in VobBlanker 1500-1503 when the VIDEO_TS.IFO was rewritten even though the menu was "Skip". This problem was fixed in 1504.
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I've done a new build:
- maximum menus PGCs changed to 350.
- Bug in Cell list reported by 2COOL a few posts above fixed

http://www.posunplugged.com/jsoto/to...r_1505_exe.zip
Is this a beta or final? It's not on your homepages yet.
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I wish VobBlanker had a ADD option. Let me explain. I wanted to do a joining test so I first reauthored an episodic anime DVD with DVD Shrink using just 2 episodes. Both episodes had 6 chapters each.

VIDEO_TS.BUP
VIDEO_TS.IFO
VTS_01_0.BUP
VTS_01_1.VOB // Episode 1 (6 Programs, 6 Cells)
VTS_01_0.IFO
VTS_02_0.BUP
VTS_02_1.VOB // Episode 2 (6 Programs, 6 Cells)
VTS_02_0.IFO

My gameplan was to add Episode 2 to the end of Episode 1.

Episode 1

PGC_1 (program chain): [Title(TTN): 1] [00:23:29.06 / 30 fps] (Programs: 6) (Cells: 6) (uses VOB-IDs: 1)
[Ch 01] [Pg 01] [Cell 01] [V/C Id: 1/ 1] : time: 00:01:31.27 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:01:31.27] [Frames: 2757]
[Ch 02] [Pg 02] [Cell 02] [V/C Id: 1/ 2] : time: 00:10:46.07 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:12:18.04] [Frames: 22144]
[Ch 03] [Pg 03] [Cell 03] [V/C Id: 1/ 3] : time: 00:09:13.22 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:21:31.26] [Frames: 38756]
[Ch 04] [Pg 04] [Cell 04] [V/C Id: 1/ 4] : time: 00:01:35.28 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:23:07.24] [Frames: 41634]
[Ch 05] [Pg 05] [Cell 05] [V/C Id: 1/ 5] : time: 00:00:20.20 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:23:28.14] [Frames: 42254]
[Ch 06] [Pg 06] [Cell 06] [V/C Id: 1/ 6] : time: 00:00:00.22 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:23:29.06] [Frames: 42276]

Episode 2

PGC_1 (program chain): [Title(TTN): 1] [00:23:29.04 / 30 fps] (Programs: 6) (Cells: 6) (uses VOB-IDs: 1)
[Ch 01] [Pg 01] [Cell 01] [V/C Id: 1/ 1] : time: 00:01:31.27 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:01:31.27] [Frames: 2757]
[Ch 02] [Pg 02] [Cell 02] [V/C Id: 1/ 2] : time: 00:11:03.08 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:12:35.05] [Frames: 22655]
[Ch 03] [Pg 03] [Cell 03] [V/C Id: 1/ 3] : time: 00:08:56.22 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:21:31.27] [Frames: 38757]
[Ch 04] [Pg 04] [Cell 04] [V/C Id: 1/ 4] : time: 00:01:35.27 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:23:07.24] [Frames: 41634]
[Ch 05] [Pg 05] [Cell 05] [V/C Id: 1/ 5] : time: 00:00:20.19 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:23:28.13] [Frames: 42253]
[Ch 06] [Pg 06] [Cell 06] [V/C Id: 1/ 6] : time: 00:00:00.21 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:23:29.04] [Frames: 42274]

Now, VobBlanker doesn't add new cells but there is a option to replace. Since my Episode 1 chapter 6 is just a blank, I'll replace that cell with my whole VTS_02_1.VOB.

Note: I had to process everything. Blanking VTS_02_1.VOB produces errors.

Anyways, it worked but now my 6 Chapters of Episode 2 is a single-cell chapter 6 in Episode 1. My chapter 6's time is wrong though.

PGC_1 (program chain): [Title(TTN): 1] [00:23:28.25 / 30 fps] (Programs: 6) (Cells: 6) (uses VOB-IDs: 1)
[Ch 01] [Pg 01] [Cell 01] [V/C Id: 1/ 1] : time: 00:01:31.26 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:01:31.26] [Frames: 2756]
[Ch 02] [Pg 02] [Cell 02] [V/C Id: 1/ 2] : time: 00:10:46.05 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:12:18.01] [Frames: 22141]
[Ch 03] [Pg 03] [Cell 03] [V/C Id: 1/ 3] : time: 00:09:13.20 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:21:31.21] [Frames: 38751]
[Ch 04] [Pg 04] [Cell 04] [V/C Id: 1/ 4] : time: 00:01:35.27 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:23:07.18] [Frames: 41628]
[Ch 05] [Pg 05] [Cell 05] [V/C Id: 1/ 5] : time: 00:00:20.18 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:23:28.06] [Frames: 42246]
[Ch 06] [Pg 06] [Cell 06] [V/C Id: 1/ 6] : time: 00:00:00.19 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:23:28.25] [Frames: 42265]


Here's my VobBlanker log.

Code:
VTS 01: Opening IFO
VTS 01: Processing VOB (Menus)
VTS 01: Processing IFO (Menu)
     Looping into Menu PGCs and cells
     VTSM_C_ADT table did not exist
     VTSM_VOBU_ADMAP table did not exist
VTS 01: Processing VOB (Titles)
VTS 01: Cell Based PGC 01
     Keeping Cell # 0, VID=1  CID=1
     Keeping Cell # 1, VID=1  CID=2
     Keeping Cell # 2, VID=1  CID=3
     Keeping Cell # 3, VID=1  CID=4
     Keeping Cell # 4, VID=1  CID=5
     Replacing Cell # 5, VID=1  CID=6
VTS 01: Processing IFO (Titles)
     Looping into Title PGCs and cells
     Building VTS_C_ADT table
     Processing TMPATI table
     Filling VTS_VOBU_ADMAP table
VTS 01: Processing IFO (Ending and writting)

VTS 02: Opening IFO
VTS 02: Processing VOB (Menus)
VTS 02: Processing IFO (Menu)
     Looping into Menu PGCs and cells
     VTSM_C_ADT table did not exist
     VTSM_VOBU_ADMAP table did not exist
VTS 02: Processing VOB (Titles)
VTS 02: Blanking PGC 01
VTS 02: Processing IFO (Titles)
     Looping into Title PGCs and cells
     Changing Post into precommands: VTS 2, PGC 1
     Building VTS_C_ADT table
     Processing TMPATI table
     Filling VTS_VOBU_ADMAP table
VTS 02: Processing IFO (Ending and writting)

VIDEO_TS: Opening IFO
VIDEO_TS: Processing VOB (Menus)
VIDEO_TS: Processing IFO (Menu)
     Looping into Menu PGCs and cells
     VTSM_C_ADT table did not exist
     VTSM_VOBU_ADMAP table did not exist

PostCommands changed into Precommands in 1 PGCs of a total of 1

Finished. No Errors, 0 Warnings
BTW, why use Cell # 0?

Anyways, playback went well. Though I still wish that I could replace a single cell with a multiple cell VOB and still keep the extra chapters. I wondered how it be if I had more than one multiple cell VOBs to add also . I probably know it would be complicated for you but I just wanted to stir the pot again.

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i don't want to be smart but this is the function of Addchapter and i don't know if jsoto wants to merge the two programs.
what i do is add blank chapters with addchapter. then with vobblanker extract all the cells i want to merge, then replace each cell individually. i know it's alot of work but it works.
you're right it would be nice for vobblanker to add cells to the end or even the beginning of a title set.

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i have a couple of small request (i think there small)
1. when using ExtractAll to have an option to extract the cells as individual vobs or as one big one.(like vobedit can)
2. add a warning when the extracting over rights other files.(the default folder is the same as the input one and that can be dangerous.)
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i don't want to be smart but this is the function of Addchapter and i don't know if jsoto wants to merge the two programs.
  • I have a feeling he won't but somewhere down the path, these two tools we'll have to meet at a crossroad.

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what i do is add blank chapters with addchapter. then with vobblanker extract all the cells i want to merge, then replace each cell individually. i know it's alot of work but it works.
  • I know that works but like you said, it's time consuming. Again, I mentioned that I was just doing a test of sorts. You know me, I like to explore a tool's undocumented secrets/methods like how I did with IfoEdit. It's testing like this that brings out any bugs or areas needing improvements.
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you're right it would be nice for vobblanker to add cells to the end or even the beginning of a title set.
  • Off-topic: You know everytime I heard the word or your username "sweetness", I find myself flashbacking to the 80's and listening to The Smiths. They had this popular catchy song called "Big Mouth Strikes Again". Nothing personal, just a song I'd loved to hear and dance to back in days. Boy, Morrisey sure had that distintive voice and style of singing. Once in a while, this song just loops in my head like it's the last song you've listened to on the car stereo on your way to work. Here are the lyrics.

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I think I have two bugs to report.
  1. Whenever I abort, both my ABORT and PROCESS!! buttons are disabled. I have to quit and run VobBlanker again. It's a little nuisance to set my Input and Output folders up again and do the same procedure, especially when testing. Since my new files are sent to a different folder, can you implement an option to delete or write over existing files?

  2. If my output folder is the same as my input folder, I get an error.

    Input error: Reached end of VOB to early

    I think you should put a check to see that both folders are not to same to avoid this.
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BlankVOB CLI bug

Hi jsoto,

I have tried to launch BlankVOB.exe from CLI.
I can't get some options to work: the resulting file is always a single cell with VID=CID=1.

I think the "csPar.MakeLower();" instruction in ParseCommandLine() is incompatible with the upper case options strings you use later in the comparisons.

Also, the following options are missing in the doc file:
option3: { -16_9, -4_3 }. Default 16_9
option4: { -720, -704, -352 , -352V }. Default 720
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you are right, the best way to find undocumented secrets/methods it to take the tool to the max. i too tried a replace experiment where i wanted to join vts2 into vst1 by just renaming the files (VTS_01_1.VOB,VTS_02_1.VOB to VTS_01_1.VOB and VTS_01_2.VOB without joining them) but it didn't work. i got funny cell ids.

about the nickname you're the second person who said that here. to tell you the truth i took the nickname form my fourite football player Mr. Walter Payton. the greatest player with the greatest nickname on the greatest team.
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Sorry for the delay in answering. I was in a loooooooong weekend, here in Spain, October-12th is holiday.

Well, let's go to the bussines:
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Is this a beta or final? It's not on your homepages yet.
Yeah, just a quick fix. I'm lazy to zip and upload the sources and also to change the homepages...
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[Ch 06] [Pg 06] [Cell 06] [V/C Id: 1/ 6] : time: 00:00:00.19 / 30 fps time: 00:00:00.19 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:23:28.25] [Frames: 42265]
This is clearly a bug in replacing cells. I have to confess I usually replace PGCs but not cells, so I didn't see it. I'll look into it.
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Internally, all index I manage are from 0 to n-1 (for "n" elements). I forgot to add one to the index in the log.
Sorry, but I'm not going to add a new feature "ADD/DELETE" Cells to a PGC in VobBlanker. Up to now, VobBlanker keeps the PGCs as they are in terms of number of cells, and it is not easy to change this.

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1. when using ExtractAll to have an option to extract the cells as individual vobs or as one big one.(like vobedit can)
2. add a warning when the extracting over rights other files.(the default folder is the same as the input one and that can be dangerous.)
OK. Both seem easy

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Whenever I abort, both my ABORT and PROCESS!! buttons are disabled. I have to quit and run VobBlanker again. It's a little nuisance to set my Input and Output folders up again and do the same procedure, especially when testing. Since my new files are sent to a different folder, can you implement an option to delete or write over existing files?
No bug. It is intentional. There are some internal variables modified, and I'm too lazy to reload them... But I can give you a trick:
- Save your project from menu
- Load your project from menu
This procedure will enable again the buttons, all internal variables will be initialized, and you will have (I hope) all your settings back.

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Input error: Reached end of VOB to early
I think you should put a check to see that both folders are not to same to avoid this.
The check is already in the code, but seems it does not work (in previous releases it worked). I'll look into it.

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Ooops! I put the MakeLower sentence because a bug in other tool, but seems I did not test it! I'll fix it inmediatly. Thanks!

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A Thanks to JSOTO

I have to give a big "Thank You" to Jsoto. Not only did you change your code on my behalf, your programm since has helped me to back up whole seasons in virtually no time. If I made no mistake, I should even be able to reproduce the original disk from the backups, just as I set out to do.

I am surely not able to comprehend the depth of your program, but for me it did what I wanted to do. So I would just like to express my appreciation of your work.

MANY THANKS!
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I've received this email from Tobi:

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I have got one error message in the VobBlanker 1.5.0.5.

Error: Ifo file too big: I:\VIDEO_TS\ VTS_01_0.IFO

Size of the VTS_01_0.IFO is 280 kb.
Have loaded the IFO in PGC Edit and see 478 menu PGC.
Menu PGC lies the restriction in the VobBlanker 1.5.0.5 at 350.
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Working in 1.5.0.6...

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HaHaHaHa...errrrrr...NOOOPPPE!
What DVD does Tobi has that's got 478 menus?!
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