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Old 12th May 2004, 18:31   #61  |  Link
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Some more screenshots from the Star Trek: First Contact comparison (Andreas 78er, Andreas einfache 99er, Andreas doppelte 99er, Bulletproof's Heavy Compression, Bulletproof's High Quality, Angel BestLow):





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Old 13th May 2004, 11:57   #62  |  Link
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Even more screenshots from Star Trek: First Contact (Angel BestVeryLow, Low Bitrate Matrix, Very Low Bitrate Matrix, Ultra Low Bitrate Matrix, Selur's Matrix, Ultimate Matrix, EthanoliX FourRooms):






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Old 22nd May 2004, 22:34   #63  |  Link
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Is there a suggested quantization for mostly high motion?

Not movies with occasional high motion but lots of motion all the time?

Like handheld cams with lots of global motion, but also besides the global motion, lots of motion in the scene itself.

Like for example following soccer players and not recording during breaks (so all the low motion parts are gone & the video is all high motion, with rare low-motion sequences).

Things like Matrix have lots and lots of low motion scenes, to get the best compression you need settings that compress both low and high motion well.

What I'm looking for is, I don't care if the settings do badly on low motion but I'd love them to do well on high motion.
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All that I can tell you is that my matrix copes quite well with high motion. Look at the screenshots from The Matrix Reloaded.
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Additionally I can say that it copes with low motion quite well too. Finally I had the time to give Jawor's matrix a try (together with his latest XviD_15062004_p3 build).

I used a resolution of 640*352 with LanczosResize accompanied by undot only and headed for a 1CD encode of a low-medium motion, mainly dark source with XviD settings: AQ - Trellis - VHQ1 - cm - b-frames 2/1.50/1.00.

And I'm really impressed by one of the most visually pleasing results I've got so far. At least I can say that Jawor's matrix is actually fine-tuned for 'my' eyes . Ah, also for compressibility I guess, but without losing the good details and the natural look especially on faces.

Good work. Thanks.
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but without losing the good details and the natural look especially on faces.
you should better watch a 2 time :P
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At least I can say that Jawor's matrix is actually fine-tuned for 'my' eyes .
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Ah, also for compressibility I guess, but without losing the good details and the natural look especially on faces.
To be frank, I was surprised when I saw, that the matrix keeps so much detail. First I thought it would be sort of HVS - Worse Picture due to quite high coefficients I used.

@CruNcher: Maybe CruNcher's Visual System is different than iago's Visual System and Jawor's Visual System

@iago: Thanks for testing both the matrix and the VBV build.
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I don't really encode at those bitrates but still: Damned fine work; good man! That makes for my new recommendation for low-bitrate-matrices.
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I don't really encode at those bitrates but still: Damned fine work; good man! That makes for my new recommendation for low-bitrate-matrices.
I'm just trying to do my best
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What about a Jawor´s 2CD quantization matrix?
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What about a Jawor´s 2CD quantization matrix?
I'm not designing any quantization matrix at the moment. Of course you can use this 1CD matrix for 2CD encodes

But seriously, I wouldn't recommend this.
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What about a Jawor´s 2CD quantization matrix?
2CD, you may use HVS Matrix

Jawor´s 1CD is a best at low/medium bitrate.
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Soul hunter the link is dead.... !
can u provide a nw link for the The Evil Matrix - v0.1 ... ? thnx in advnce !!!
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Soul hunter the link is dead.... !
can u provide a nw link for the The Evil Matrix - v0.1 ... ? thnx in advnce !!!
Which link? >.>
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hey thnx fo th reply.............
i need downld link fo evil matrix of urs its gud,,jus want try it out..... ! u posted th downld link fo th evil matrix in th first page of this discussn bt its dead...! can u post it agin ??
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Found it in the guts of an old HDD. Evil.v0.1.qmatrix

Just FYI, this is evil v0.1:

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hey Didée thnx fo th link !
dnt wrry i'll keep it safe...... xD !
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Found it in the guts of an old HDD. Evil.v0.1.qmatrix

Just FYI, this is evil v0.1:

The link is dead. Can anyone upload the latest version of the evil matrix?
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This is all that I have; Hope it helps.


evil v0.1

Intra:
8,12,12,12,20,60,255,255
14,10,12,12,14,34,255,255
12,12,20,22,30,255,255,255
12,12,20,46,255,255,255,255
16,12,28,255,255,255,255,255
56,32,255,255,255,255,255,255
255,255,255,255,255,255,255,255
255,255,255,255,255,255,255,255

Inter:
12,18,18,20,38,255,255,255
18,14,18,18,26,255,255,255
18,18,30,42,82,255,255,255
18,18,36,255,255,255,255,255
30,24,80,255,255,255,255,255
255,255,255,255,255,255,255,255
255,255,255,255,255,255,255,255
255,255,255,255,255,255,255,255
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This is all that I have; Hope it helps.


evil v0.1

Intra:
8,12,12,12,20,60,255,255
14,10,12,12,14,34,255,255
12,12,20,22,30,255,255,255
12,12,20,46,255,255,255,255
16,12,28,255,255,255,255,255
56,32,255,255,255,255,255,255
255,255,255,255,255,255,255,255
255,255,255,255,255,255,255,255

Inter:
12,18,18,20,38,255,255,255
18,14,18,18,26,255,255,255
18,18,30,42,82,255,255,255
18,18,36,255,255,255,255,255
30,24,80,255,255,255,255,255
255,255,255,255,255,255,255,255
255,255,255,255,255,255,255,255
255,255,255,255,255,255,255,255
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