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Old 30th September 2003, 20:59   #301  |  Link
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You're surely right. Too fast around the corners.
Ok, I do a last go at it (beta4), and then I quit for the day.
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Old 30th September 2003, 21:19   #302  |  Link
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Ok, I do a last go at it (beta4), and then I quit for the day.
ok, then I can beat it up while you get some sleep I expect our time of day is 7 or 8 hours different. Afternoon here. At time of this post is is approx 3:20 PM. Hey, its still "early" there. You still got time to hit Beta 6 No self respecting programmer needs more than a couple of hours sleep


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Ended up with 2.1 disks

Just finished LOTR:TTT and ended up with 3 filled disks a 80-MB third image, even though they should have been 3. Here is the log:
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D2Sroba v2.7.0 beta4 - DVD2SVCD plugin, by tylo
OS Version: WIN_XP
--------------------------------------------------------
- DVD2SVCD Shutdown
- 2003-09-30 22:07:36
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Settings:
-   Encoding mode           : OPV RoBa
-   CD size                 : 803
-   Number of CD's          : auto
-   Auto Q. (worst)         : 30
-   Maximum Q.              : 40
-   Sample percentage       : 1.0
-   Adjust Q.               : 1.0
-   Sample GOPs             : 1
-   Sizing pass             : on=1  (-1.0 .. 0.0)%
-   Audio after video       : on=1  (% of Video, 10%, min 112 kbps)
-   Adjust max video br     : on=1  (total 2756 kbps)
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- Movie length       : 02:51:39 (246941 frames, 23.976 fps)
- D2S audio settings : (112 kbps + 0) kbps
- D2S video estimate : 1797 kbps, 3 CDs
- SelectRangeEvery   : every 1200, select 12 frames
- Num. sample frames : 2472
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Calculations:
- 1 CD: Video BR=514  Audio 1 BR=112  Video SZ=661743379.
- 2 CD: Video BR=1156  Audio 1 BR=112  Video SZ=1488278884.
- 3 CD: Video BR=1749  Audio 1 BR=160  Video SZ=2251729902.
- 4 CD: Video BR=2327  Audio 1 BR=224  Video SZ=2995869344.
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- Using Max bitrate=2532 for auto samples (adj. for 4 CDs)
- Estimated mpv size : 1733327628. (Q=30, 1346 kbps, 17351456 sample sz)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
- Number of CDs      : 3
- Target mpv size    : 2251729902. (1749 / max 2596) kbps
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- Binary search for Q:
- Estimated mpv size : 2443071225. (Q=15, 1897 kbps, 24456336 sample sz)
- Computed  mpv size : 2088199427. (Q=22, 1621 kbps, 20903896.=(Q30+Q15)/2)
- Estimated mpv size : 2277438547. (Q=18, 1768 kbps, 22798272 sample sz)
- Computed  mpv size : 2182818987. (Q=20, 1695 kbps, 21851084.=(Q22+Q18)/2)
- Computed  mpv size : 2230128767. (Q=19, 1732 kbps, 22324678.=(Q20+Q18)/2)
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- Q Weight : 1.0 - (2251729902. / 99.8952265372168 - 22324678.) / (22798272 - 22324678.)
- Adjust Q : (19 + (0.543410773467367) - (1.0)) = 18.5434107734674
- Determined Q.      : 18
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- Encoding Movie
- 2003-09-30 22:13:13
- Actual mpv file size:
  01/10/2003  00:13        2227166600 Encoded_Video_CCE_NTSC.mpv
- OPV pass result: 98.9% on target (  2227166600 / 2251729902.)
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- Executing VBR Sizing Pass - 1749 kbps.
- Actual mpv file size:
  01/10/2003  02:06        2249095588 Encoded_Video_CCE_NTSC.mpv
- Sizing pass result: 99.9% on target (  2249095588 / 2251729902.)
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- Executing: C:\Archivos de programa\DVD2SVCD\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe -core( -input "H:\LOTR II\Audio\Extracted_audio_1.ac3" -output "H:\LOTRII~1\Audio\Encoded_audio_1.mp2" -logfile "H:\LOTRII~1\Audio\Encoded_audio_1.log" ) -azid( -L -3db -l 0db -c normal -s surround -g max ) -2lame( -e -b 160 -m s )
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- Recover
- 2003-10-01 02:25:37

I'm clueless. The DVD2SVCD.INI file (relevant parts) contains:
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MinsHigh1=93
MinsHigh2=139
MinsHigh3=185
MinsHigh4=231
MinsHigh5=278
NumCd1=1
NumCd2=2
NumCd3=3
NumCd4=4
NumCd5=5
NumCd6=6
CDSize 1=803
CDSize 2=803
CDSize 3=803
CDSize 4=803
CDSize 5=803
CDSize 6=803
And the project file:
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Number of images=3
Volumes=3
Images=3
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Old 1st October 2003, 14:45   #304  |  Link
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I'm using AVI2SVCD and I'm stucked with CCE encoding part. CCE starts normally but when D2SRoBa closes CCE first time, the GUI dissapears but the cctspt.exe still runs in the backround. Thus a new CCE window is not opened. You can see the EclCCE.exe and cctspt.exe running in the taskmanager. So D2SRoBa does not close the CCE properly. With earlier versions it worked just fine.

Here is the log:
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D2SRoBa v2.7.0 beta4 - DVD2SVCD plugin, by tylo
OS Version: WIN_XP
--------------------------------------------------------
- DVD2SVCD Shutdown
- 2003-10-01 16:17:27
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Settings:
-   Encoding mode           : OPV RoBa
-   CD size                 : 800
-   Number of CD's          : 2
-   Auto Q. (worst)         : ---
-   Maximum Q.              : 128
-   Sample percentage       : 2.0
-   Adjust Q.               : 0.8
-   Sample GOPs             : 1
-   Sizing pass             : on=1  (-2.0 .. 1.0)%
-   Audio after video       : on=1  (% of Video, 10%, min 192 kbps)
-   Adjust max video br     : on=1  (total 2756 kbps)
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- Movie length       : 01:47:41 (154910 frames, 23.976 fps)
- D2S audio settings : (224 kbps + 0) kbps
- D2S video estimate : 1793 kbps, 2 CDs
- SelectRangeEvery   : every 750, select 15 frames
- Num. sample frames : 3105
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Calculations:
- 1 CD: Video BR=809  Audio 1 BR=192  Video SZ=653373113.
- 2 CD: Video BR=1825  Audio 1 BR=192  Video SZ=1473925749.
- 3 CD: Video BR=2778  Audio 1 BR=256  Video SZ=2243597661.
- 4 CD: Video BR=3730  Audio 1 BR=320  Video SZ=3012461942.
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
- Number of CDs      : 2
- Target mpv size    : 1473925749. (1825 / max 2564) kbps
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- Binary search for Q:
Am I doing something wrong or is this a D2SRoBa issue?

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Old 1st October 2003, 15:47   #305  |  Link
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@r6d2: I interpret that as you are getting 4 images, and the last one is 80mb - i.e it was oversized. Strange - all the number looks perfect to me. I.e: you encoded with the total bitrate (1749 + 160) = 1909, whereas D2S computed (1797 + 112) = 1909.

Hmm. I don't update the project .d2s file to reflect the bitrate changes in audio, so bbMPEG thinks it muxes with a lower audio bitrate than it really does. Could that make a difference for muxing overhead? I would think not, because it does that all the time with the video part. To make sure, I'll update the .d2s file before the recover.

@siku: Thanks, Siku. Did 2.6.0 beta3 work for you as well?

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@r6d2: I interpret that as you are getting 4 images, and the last one is 80mb - i.e it was oversized.
No, I get 3 images, the last only 80-Mb size. I checked the muxed files and the are wrong. They are not continuous, they overlap! Audio is in synch, though.
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Hmm. I don't update the project .d2s file to reflect the bitrate changes in audio, so bbMPEG thinks it muxes with a lower audio bitrate than it really does. Could that make a difference for muxing overhead? I would think not,
I agree with you, since bbMPEg sort of analyses before actually muxing. But I cannot think of any other explanation that the project file. Please also fix the Movie info and other stuff to reflect correct audio...
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Did 2.6.0 beta3 work for you as well?
Yep, 2.6.0 beta 3 worked fine. 2.7.0 beta1 was the first version with this problem.
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Ok, I'll do the CCE termination as in 2.6.0, and update audio bitrate in the project files if audio bitrate was changed. --> beta5.
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Ok, I'll do the CCE termination as in 2.6.0, and update audio bitrate in the project files if audio bitrate was changed. --> beta5.
I manually fixed the 2 112 mentions to 160 on the D2S file and the recover worked great!
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Reporting in sir Did a episode of 24. Set disk size as 400. Ended up with 2 mpgs, one 404,258 k and second 436 k.

/ADD: Given that I had fixed bitrate for audio chosen and the sizing pass was executed, why do you think it was oversized?

Here are logs for your data:
Code:
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D2SRoBa v2.7.0 beta4 - DVD2SVCD plugin, by tylo
OS Version: WIN_XP
--------------------------------------------------------
- DVD2SVCD Shutdown
- 2003-10-01 08:44:44
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Settings:
-   Encoding mode           : OPV RoBa
-   CD size                 : 400
-   Number of CD's          : 1
-   Auto Q. (worst)         : ---
-   Maximum Q.              : 64
-   Sample percentage       : 1.0
-   Adjust Q.               : 1.6
-   Sample GOPs             : 1
-   Sizing pass             : on=1  (-2.0 .. 1.0)%
-   Audio after video       : on=1  (Fixed bitrate, 10%, min 128 kbps)
-   Adjust max video br     : on=1  (total 2756 kbps)
--------------------------------------------------------
- Movie length       : 00:42:43 (61466 frames, 23.976 fps)
- D2S audio settings : (128 kbps + 0) kbps
- D2S video estimate : 1128 kbps, 1 CDs
- SelectRangeEvery   : every 1200, select 12 frames
- Num. sample frames : 624
--------------------------------------------------------
Calculations:
- 1 CD: Video BR=1128  Audio 1 BR=128  Video SZ=361474225.
- 2 CD: Video BR=2400  Audio 1 BR=128  Video SZ=769094095.
- 3 CD: Video BR=3672  Audio 1 BR=128  Video SZ=1176713964.
- 4 CD: Video BR=4944  Audio 1 BR=128  Video SZ=1584333834.
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
- Number of CDs      : 1
- Target mpv size    : 361474225. (1128 / max 2628) kbps
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- Binary search for Q:
- Estimated mpv size : 403389932. (Q=32, 1258 kbps, 4095196 sample sz)
- Estimated mpv size : 322996738. (Q=48, 1007 kbps, 3279048 sample sz)
- Estimated mpv size : 356635583. (Q=40, 1112 kbps, 3620548 sample sz)
- Computed  mpv size : 380012757. (Q=36, 1185 kbps, 3857872.=(Q40+Q32)/2)
- Computed  mpv size : 368324170. (Q=38, 1149 kbps, 3739210.=(Q40+Q36)/2)
- Estimated mpv size : 361373981. (Q=39, 1127 kbps, 3668652 sample sz)
--------------------------------------------------------
- Q Weight : 1.0 - (361474225. / 98.5032051282051 - 3668652) / (3739210. - 3668652)
- Adjust Q : (39 + (0.985576723471315) - (1.6)) = 38.3855767234713
- Determined Q.      : 38
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- Encoding Movie
- 2003-10-01 08:49:29
- Actual mpv file size:
  10/01/2003  09:47 AM         393383692 Encoded_Video_CCE_NTSC.mpv
- OPV pass result: 108.8% on target (   393383692 / 361474225.)
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- Executing VBR Sizing Pass - 1128 kbps.
- Actual mpv file size:
  10/01/2003  10:42 AM         361127208 Encoded_Video_CCE_NTSC.mpv
- Sizing pass result: 99.9% on target (   361127208 / 361474225.)
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- Executing: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe -core( -input "C:\24\Extracted_audio_1.ac3" -output 

"C:\24\Encoded_audio_1.mp2" -logfile "C:\24\Encoded_audio_1.log" ) -azid( -L -3db -l 0db -c normal -s surround -g max ) -2lame( -e -b 128 

-m s )
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- Recover
- 2003-10-01 10:45:15
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++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Dvd2svcd Log
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- 10/1/2003 8:43:39 AM
- Free on drive C: 17338.40 mb
- Crash Recovery
- Restarting from: Video encoding
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- 10/1/2003 8:43:42 AM
- Free on drive C: 17338.40 mb
- Video Encoding using Cinema Craft
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- Editing AVS script file

Executing Cinema Craft Encoder.
StreamSectors: 415614864
AudioSectors: 41655376
VideoPAPO: 5792832
ScanOffsetBytes: 92199
SeqAligningBytes: 5859759
DVDBytes: 0
VideoEndHeader: 4
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 1.00
PureMPEGStream: 362214694.33
Seconds: 2568.65
CalcMPEGStream: 362214694.33
Frames: 61466
CDSize: 400.00
Number of CDs: 1
Cut point 395.00
Variable Settings:
Frames: 61466
Anti Noise Filter: Off
Passes: 1
Image Quality: 17
VAF file creation: On
Video Encoding Mode: One Pass VBR
Q. Factor: 33
Min. bitrate: 100
Max. bitrate: 1128
Aspect Ratio: 16:9 (borders added, encoded as 4:3)

---AVS Begin---
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\AVISYN~1.5PL\Mpeg2dec\MPEG2D~1.DLL")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\AVISYN~1.5PL\INVERS~1\decomb.dll")
mpeg2source("C:\24\DVD2AV~1.D2V")
Telecide()
Decimate(5)
DetectedTop=0 DetectedHeight=480
ResizeTo=0 global ResizeMethod=1
GammaCorrection=1.0 Hue=0 Saturation=1.0 Brightness=0 Contrast=1.0
OverscanH=0.04 OverscanV=0.04 BlockOptimization=0
global Bicubic_b_Value=0 global Bicubic_c_Value=0.6
DebugMode=0
DestinationWidth=720
DestinationHeight=360
# Import("C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Avisynth2.5 Plugins\FACAR\qmf15b1.avs")
# Import("C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Avisynth2.5 Plugins\FACAR\QMF_functions.avs")
Import("C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Avisynth2.5 Plugins\FACAR\PreResize.avs")
Import("C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Avisynth2.5 Plugins\FACAR\FACAR.avs")
Import("C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Avisynth2.5 Plugins\FACAR\PostResize.avs")
ConvertToYUY2()
----AVS End----

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- 10/1/2003 10:45:19 AM
- DVD to SVCD Conversion
- DVD2SVCD ver. 1.2.1 build 2b
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Initializing
- 
Initializing finished.

--------------------------------------------------------
- 10/1/2003 10:45:19 AM
- Free on drive C: 17370.28 mb
- Restarting from: Pulldown
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- 10/1/2003 10:45:21 AM
- Free on drive C: 17714.27 mb
- Video Pulldown
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Executing Pulldown. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Pulldown\PULLDOWN.EXE" "C:\24\Encoded_Video_CCE_NTSC.mpv" "C:\24\Pulldown_Encoded_Video_NTSC.mpv"
Video pulldown finished.

--------------------------------------------------------
- 10/1/2003 10:46:12 AM
- Free on drive C: 17369.86 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
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- 10/1/2003 10:46:14 AM
- Free on drive C: 17369.84 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
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- 10/1/2003 10:46:17 AM
- Free on drive C: 17369.84 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
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- 10/1/2003 10:46:19 AM
- Free on drive C: 17369.82 mb
- Multiplexing and cutting
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
Offset in Seconds: 2
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 2 seconds
Cut point: 395 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "C:\24\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Multiplexing and cutting finished.

--------------------------------------------------------
- 10/1/2003 10:48:19 AM
- Free on drive C: 16974.53 mb
- Determining length of audio
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Analyzing: C:\24\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
2557.848 seconds C:\24\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
Analyzing: C:\24\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg
4.008 seconds C:\24\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg
Analyzing finished.

--------------------------------------------------------
- 10/1/2003 10:48:48 AM
- Free on drive C: 16974.53 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 1

CD image #1: CD_Image_File_CD1.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\vcdxbuild.exe" --verbose --cue-file="C:\24\CD_Image_File_CD1.cue" --bin-file="C:\24\CD_Image_File_CD1.bin" "C:\24\VCDXBU~1.XML"
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- 10/1/2003 10:50:25 AM
- Free on drive C: 16572.23 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 1

CD image #2: CD_Image_File_CD2.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\vcdxbuild.exe" --verbose --cue-file="C:\24\CD_Image_File_CD2.cue" --bin-file="C:\24\CD_Image_File_CD2.bin" "C:\24\VCDXBU~2.XML"
Image creation finished.

--------------------------------------------------------
- 10/1/2003 10:50:30 AM
- Free on drive C: 16570.42 mb
- Conversion done!
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havent tried the new version yet. prolly give it a whirl tomorrow.. started experimenting with "kvcd". cant have 2 x factors at the same time. anywho.. i changed the sleep, 3000 (i think thats what it was) line before d2sr loads eclcce the first time to 30000 ... works like i charm ( i woke up to the 'sorry, only one instances of eclcce" message again.. .. so i did a little tweaking ). thankfully RB is removing that from the next version of eclcce so i'll just manually add the extra sleep time when i try new betas for now.
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How soon before a stable version is ready? Which previous version should I use when I need to do a backup?
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@TeleMike - Beta 4 is working well. Maybe uncheck the do audio thing until beta 5. Since 128 is the minimum most would want on a 1cd encode you may not end up using it anyway so just set that in d2s like you used to do. If you are uncomfortable with that then use beta 2 of the previous version. Just make sure your time bands are set properly.

@tylo, just finished a batch operation and all was well. One encode again had a very small second mpg created. tylo, I think you are real close to getting a rest. That small secondary file is the only thing I have found with beta 4. Great job! Note I have not yet tried a dvd2dvd encode.


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Old 2nd October 2003, 08:47   #314  |  Link
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Uploaded beta6:
The dynamic audio was maybe stretching the plugin too far. But hopefully, the beta6 will do the job also when it comes to recover.

@w00kie: I've put in a 5 sec sleep before the second start of CCE - I think that should be enough.

@DDogg: I'm clueless on your '24' episode encode. Almost seems like a D2S bug - can you verify that audio came out 128 kbps.
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Just make sure your time bands are set properly.
This is one of the things that shouldnt be needed anymore - at least not for CD sizes at 740-900. You can verify it yourself fast by:
- breaking the plugin after the first sample has started,
- then restart plugin and change num CDs within the correct time band,
- recover at video, then break the plugin after the first sample again:

Check out this: (This gave an amazing 1274 kbps encode of the 2nd Harry Potter movie)
Code:
Listing 1
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-   Encoding mode           : OPV RoBa
-   CD size                 : 800
-   Number of CD's          : auto
-   Auto Q. (worst)         : 40
-   Maximum Q.              : 128
-   Sample percentage       : 3.0
-   Adjust Q.               : 2.0
-   Sample GOPs             : 1
-   Sizing pass             : on=1  (-3.0 .. 1.0)%
-   Audio after video       : on=1  (% of Video, 10%, min 128 kbps)
-   Adjust max video br     : on=1  (total 2756 kbps)
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- Movie length       : 02:34:21 (231542 frames, 25 fps)
- D2S audio settings : (160 kbps + 0) kbps
- D2S video estimate : 1950 kbps, 3 CDs
- SelectRangeEvery   : every 500, select 15 frames
- Num. sample frames : 6960
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Calculations:
- 1 CD: Video BR=565  Audio 1 BR=128  Video SZ=654106150.
- 2 CD: Video BR=1274  Audio 1 BR=128  Video SZ=1474922540.
- 3 CD: Video BR=1918  Audio 1 BR=192  Video SZ=2220487780.
- 4 CD: Video BR=2563  Audio 1 BR=256  Video SZ=2967210730.

Listing 2
*********
-   Encoding mode           : OPV RoBa
-   CD size                 : 800
-   Number of CD's          : auto
-   Auto Q. (worst)         : 40
-   Maximum Q.              : 128
-   Sample percentage       : 3.0
-   Adjust Q.               : 2.0
-   Sample GOPs             : 1
-   Sizing pass             : on=1  (-3.0 .. 1.0)%
-   Audio after video       : on=1  (% of Video, 10%, min 128 kbps)
-   Adjust max video br     : on=1  (total 2756 kbps)
--------------------------------------------------------
- Movie length       : 02:34:21 (231542 frames, 25 fps)
- D2S audio settings : (160 kbps + 0) kbps
- D2S video estimate : 1242 kbps, 2 CDs
- SelectRangeEvery   : every 500, select 15 frames
- Num. sample frames : 6960
--------------------------------------------------------
Calculations:
- 1 CD: Video BR=565  Audio 1 BR=128  Video SZ=654106150.
- 2 CD: Video BR=1274  Audio 1 BR=128  Video SZ=1474922540.
- 3 CD: Video BR=1919  Audio 1 BR=192  Video SZ=2221645490.
- 4 CD: Video BR=2564  Audio 1 BR=256  Video SZ=2968368440.

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those results look good, tylo. great work. gonna go with newest version on tonites encode.
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@Tylo, look at this:
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Calculations:
- 1 CD: Video BR=502  Audio 1 BR=128  Video SZ=642616951.
- 2 CD: Video BR=1147  Audio 1 BR=128  Video SZ=1468290124.
- 3 CD: Video BR=1760  Audio 1 BR=160  Video SZ=2252999667.
- 4 CD: Video BR=2342  Audio 1 BR=224  Video SZ=2998025693.
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- Using Max bitrate=2532 for auto samples (adj. for 4 CDs)
I think that auto samples must be done with max=(adjusted for the min. audio BR). Otherwise the plugin may select a different number of CDs than needed.

I don't have time to elaborate on this now, but please give it a thought. I think you'll get it.
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@tylo

I ran a test with beta6 using AVI2SVCD and it worked like a charm. There were no issues whatsoever. Thank you.

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tylo, the plugin does not fix the corruption with the besweetlater.bat file, contrary to your previous post. Even if the plugin is started, audio is unchecked, when d2sroba launches d2s the besweetlater.bat is still there. I hope you can check this, in fact I hope there may be a way to restore all settings corrupted by the plugin. I can fully understand your need to change some settings, but not resetting them to what they were before the plugin changed them is a trifle intrusive, imo. Hope you can think about this.

Other than that it seems to be working well.
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It finally seem to work well for me now. Last two of mine encodes worked exactly as I wanted.
@DDogg: There is no corruption regarding the BeSweetLater.bat. I've tested this very thorough. If you have exited the plugin from the tray (before the sample encodings has started), The BeSweetLater.bat will be there if you open D2S alone. This cannot be avoided.

To restore besweet.exe:
Alt. 1) Start the plugin + pressing GO in the plugin GUI. D2S starts. Then either exit D2S or continue as normal.

Alt. 2) Set BeSweet back manually in D2S.

Both will work.
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If you have exited the plugin from the tray (before the sample encodings has started), The BeSweetLater.bat will be there if you open D2S alone. This cannot be avoided.
No problem with that as I can completely understand how that is unavoidable.
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Alt. 1) Start the plugin + pressing GO in the plugin GUI. D2S starts. Then either exit D2S or continue as normal.
Nope. Did exactly that. Ran plugin, made sure audio was unchecked, pressed go, checked and saw BSlater.bat still there, exited d2s, reran d2s and besweetlater.bat is still there. Further, I certainly would think if you run the plugin, select no audio and then press go that by all means the besweet path should be restored to normal. Do you disagee? Obviously 2 would work but I think that would be a very bad mannered thing indeed.

No matter what I try, I can not get d2sroba to fix/ change the besweetlater.bat back to what it is supposed to be.

As said, other than that, it is awesome.


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