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Old 16th February 2018, 19:56   #49001  |  Link
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If your GPU is too slow to render frames fast enough it will drop frames. Deinterlacing requires your GPU to render twice as many frames so it only has half the time to render each one before it starts dropping frames.
Yes but I think my problem was that I was deinterlacing a progressive source.

Basically, why I should deinterlace a progressive source?
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Old 16th February 2018, 20:02   #49002  |  Link
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You should not deinterlace a progressive source. Set deinterlacing to "if in doubt, deactivate deinterlacing". If you have progressive sources marked as interlaced they are simply broken files and you have to manually disable deinterlacing.
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Old 16th February 2018, 20:08   #49003  |  Link
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You should not deinterlace a progressive source. Set deinterlacing to "if in doubt, deactivate deinterlacing". If you have progressive sources marked as interlaced they are simply broken files and you have to manually disable deinterlacing.
Just what I'm saying never deinterlaced a progressive. I did it but I did not know, so I solved by disabling it. The dropped frames I was talking about was related to that to that error I did.

Enormous confusion. Another user @Ryrynz, said I should active the other option 'in doubt active'

So with every non progressive it will be on.

With the option you suggest, I will deinterlace only the interlaced sources.

So what's more convenent?
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Referring to .1. I tried with a DVD disc to disabled deinterlacing and to force IVTC. And both solved the dropped frames with that dvd. So it works, as you say It shouldn't
so you are now saying me a interlanced DVD is working correctly with IVTC and you are sure it's not >telecine<?
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so you are now saying me a interlanced DVD is working correctly with IVTC and you are sure it's not >telecine<?
Nope, unfortunately I've not the DVD next my hands now but I m sure going to test this stuff.

So why a preson should force film mode, forcing so also IVTC? Only in the case the materials that person see are telecine?

How can I see in the media info if a source is telecine?
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Old 16th February 2018, 20:17   #49006  |  Link
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Many question on different arguments, it's weird I know

I ever used madvr "on the go", never truly understanding what I was enabling or not.

And now I'm going into it so I've a lot of weird questions
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@huhn but if that dvd is telecine, which way I solved the frame drop disabling deinterlacing?

I should expect that the frames simply continue to drop, instead they don't.
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and yet again telecine deinterlancing is not a general reason for frame dropping it'S your rendertiems and setting that your GPU can't handle.
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Enormous confusion. Another user @Ryrynz, said I should active the other option 'in doubt active'
So with every non progressive it will be on.
No, it only activates when it needs to. Just leave things at defaults.. Also you'll need profiles to avoid your frame drops with interlaced content if you're playing with settings.
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No, it only activates when it needs to. Just leave things at defaults.. Also you'll need profiles to avoid your frame drops with interlaced content if you're playing with settings.
So what's difference? A file can be progressive or interlaced.

So the first, as I read, deinterlace all that is not progressive.

The second deinterlace only the interlaced sources.

It seems the same thing...

A few post early you suggested to enable the first, now to leave the default, so the second
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stop trolling please...
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stop trolling please...
Trolling what? I'm reading the guide and trying to understand. If this is trolling...

We said is useless to deinterlace a progressive. So the opposite is an interlaced source, or a telecine. And as we said, I need IVTC for it, and that's another thing respect to deinterlacing.
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could you please google these terms?
and no you don't need IVTC but you are just ignoring what another user tell you.
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could you please google these terms?
and no you don't need IVTC but you are just ignoring what another user tell you.
Who I'm ignoring? I'm simply doing confusion with terms that are extraneous to me
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Old 16th February 2018, 22:20   #49015  |  Link
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I had a problem described here some while ago: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...14#post1792214
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Who I'm ignoring? I'm simply doing confusion with terms that are extraneous to me
sorry but you have to do something on your own.

well you are clearly ignoring this:
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No, it only activates when it needs to. Just leave things at defaults.. Also you'll need profiles to avoid your frame drops with interlaced content if you're playing with settings.
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and yet again telecine deinterlancing is not a general reason for frame dropping it'S your rendertiems and setting that your GPU can't handle.
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sorry but you have to do something on your own.

well you are clearly ignoring this:
I'm not ignoring, I understand what they are saying. Ok, I'm making too much questions, and so I'm going lost in the answers. I'm going to read again about this terms and how these things works, and your answers. And I will try to figure out the differences and the processes these terms have into them.

Sorry if though I was trolling, that not was totally my intention.
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Is there a media player that supports madVR and can play acestream links?
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You can't even update VLC with ace player else acestream links don't work. So no, there are no other media players. Anyway, VLC is the best for this kind of streams.

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@madshi: I think we all agree that the "activate only if it comes for free" RCA sub-option is extremely convenient, another sub-option I'd love to see if any possible please would be "activate only if it doesn't drop frames" for luma quadrupling because I'm never really sure whether I can afford it and those "set and forget" options are wonderful. Just try to force it and if it drops frames, go back to "luma doubling"?

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Reclock simply likes it "close enough" so you won't notice. It would change the audio speed less if you used a multiple of 23.976 Hz instead of 72 (at least for 24/1.001 fps content)
Playing cinema content in a 23.976Hz multiple means that audio will be 0.1% too slow and yes you can hear the difference when A/B'ing, music will be out of tune for that matter. Only some TV shows are actually meant to be watched at 23.976Hz AFAIK, my point being that 23.976 content is rarely meant to be watched at its native rate

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