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Old 2nd October 2017, 22:01   #46161  |  Link
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Win81 with Kaby Lake processors / graphics

info: I updated here (https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.p...27#post1820027) the link for the inf file for the driver pakage since the previous one only recognized HD620 graphics.
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Back to my 720x576 DVDs that seem to be a bit small on my 16X9 screen when I set the motorised black masking to 4X3 as in this image. It always seems ok on 720x480 DVDs...
OSD states movie 720X576
Scale 0,0,720,576 > 480,0,3360,2160, is this correct?

What does the 480 mean?
and why is the 3360 not 3840 like my 16x9 BDs are?
I just dont understand the scaling...
https://snag.gy/Hvj2CT.jpg
Looks like overscan to me. Enable madVR's black bar detection if it bothers you?
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Old 2nd October 2017, 22:39   #46163  |  Link
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Same movie, first image with MPC-BE with Madvr, second with VLC without Madvr. With Madvr i can notice that the image is too much bright and less detailed as i can see, what i've to change?

With Madvr -> https://postimg.org/image/61yp7gs8fv/

No Madvr -> https://postimg.org/image/7j4u97x81n/

You should download the images to see the difference.

I use: chroma u.= NGU Sharp, medium. / image d.=SSIM, 1D 100% anti r. relaxed, anti b, 100%. / image u.= NGU sharp, high luma doubling; the rest madvr decide. / No upscaling refinement. I'm on 1920*1080 FullHD.

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the second screen is full of compression artefacts like banding and even some blocking.

are you using madVR debanding or something?
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Old 2nd October 2017, 23:15   #46165  |  Link
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the second screen is full of compression artefacts like banding and even some blocking.

are you using madVR debanding or something?
Sorry i'm not so good at it so, two questions:

-Where i have to see to find these problems in the screenshot i made?

-Where i have to check in madvr settings to find what you asking?

EDIT: Sorry but, second screen is 'without' madvr. Madvr is present only in first screenshot, i named picture accordingly.

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processing artifact removal -> reduce banding artifacts
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processing artifact removal -> reduce banding artifacts
Both two banding options sets to high. As i said, first image is with Madvr, second is without.

https://postimg.org/image/27iemzj4d7/
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disable it or try low.
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Yes, that does not help with the LG OLEDs, to be honest the LG panels have serious issues with the way they handle ARC and stuff. I found the solution is to have everything go via the AVR first.
Ah right, I'm not using ARC, maybe that's why it works better for me.
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another easy "fix" for this problem should be the media player.
in mpc-hc you can use 9 on the numlock(with active numlock) to zoom in by 2% steps most other media player should have this option/feature too.
Ive searched everywhere in JR for an easy fix for zooming small steps but cant find it anywhere. I have asked on their forum.

As you know a few weeks ago I removed my Lumagen Pro as many here said it was deteriorating my madvr image. Lumagen had zoom steps we could pre set to 5% steps or higher. This worked perfectly from my ipad for 4x3 films that needed a small zoom and also for the very wide scope films like Ben Hur etc etc whereby a small zoomed away the wide grey bars and filled the top/bottom fixed masking. The 5% steps were just enough to zoom the image up to fit the motorised black masking of my 4x3 or scope image, if I ever needed it. I also use an Isco III lens...

After removing the Lumagen Pro I now cant zoom small steps sadly as the 25% zoom is too great from madvr...

Hopefully JR comes back to me with some good news...

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Have you tried the "Aspect Ratio" crop option in JR?
https://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Cu...Video_Playback
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Yes I read that page today after looking for a zoom control. The crop doesn't seem to zoom it up quite enough, it helps but still not enough. Im going to look into that control more again tonight and see if I can get some more out of it someway. Thanks guys for you help...
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http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/rus...ray-discs.html
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disable it or try low.
Hope you talking about the right image, because you was talking about the second, the one without madvr. Btw I'll try when at home.

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Ah right, I'm not using ARC, maybe that's why it works better for me.
Yeah I only use ARC for actually watching something on the TV itself and using my speakers. That basically means anyone that stays the night and doesn't know how to use the HTPC watching iPlayer.

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Didn't take long, but then I don't remember BDs taking long to be cracked either. I've been ripping BDs with MakeMKV for years, the only blocker to UHD BDs is the drives that can read them being expensive. It'll probably be another year or so before there's a freeware program that can do it easily.

I suppose no-one was surprised that the industry decided to make it far easier to pirate UHD content than to actually buy it. Even UHD streaming is pretty locked down (Kaby Lake and Windows 10 needed, for example).
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Didn't take long
Yes it did, its been 18 months since the first uhd bluray was released. We are not even sure its done now.

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but then I don't remember BDs taking long to be cracked either. I've been ripping BDs with MakeMKV for years, the only blocker to UHD BDs is the drives that can read them being expensive.
No it isnt. Its AACS 2.0 encryption that is the real bottleneck.

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I suppose no-one was surprised that the industry decided to make it far easier to pirate UHD content than to actually buy it. Even UHD streaming is pretty locked down (Kaby Lake and Windows 10 needed, for example).
They just made it difficult to play on a PC, and the reason is clear from the release of this software.
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Ive searched everywhere in JR for an easy fix for zooming small steps but cant find it anywhere. I have asked on their forum.

As you know a few weeks ago I removed my Lumagen Pro as many here said it was deteriorating my madvr image. Lumagen had zoom steps we could pre set to 5% steps or higher. This worked perfectly from my ipad for 4x3 films that needed a small zoom and also for the very wide scope films like Ben Hur etc etc whereby a small zoomed away the wide grey bars and filled the top/bottom fixed masking. The 5% steps were just enough to zoom the image up to fit the motorised black masking of my 4x3 or scope image, if I ever needed it. I also use an Isco III lens...

After removing the Lumagen Pro I now cant zoom small steps sadly as the 25% zoom is too great from madvr...

Hopefully JR comes back to me with some good news...
or you just use the mask options in madVR so madVR knows you are using a mask.
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Old 3rd October 2017, 15:28   #46178  |  Link
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because between bilinear the smallest of the scalers and the NGU the most powerful scaler you do not notice any difference. depends on the video card, the fullHD TV or what?
I am inexperienced, how to notice the difference?
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it could be your TV but it is generally down to the eyes.

if you are talking about chroma scaling this is not visible in all images.
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Same movie, first image with MPC-BE with Madvr, second with VLC without Madvr. With Madvr i can notice that the image is too much bright and less detailed as i can see, what i've to change?

With Madvr -> https://postimg.org/image/61yp7gs8fv/

No Madvr -> https://postimg.org/image/7j4u97x81n/

You should download the images to see the difference.

I use: chroma u.= NGU Sharp, medium. / image d.=SSIM, 1D 100% anti r. relaxed, anti b, 100%. / image u.= NGU sharp, high luma doubling; the rest madvr decide. / No upscaling refinement. I'm on 1920*1080 FullHD.

Thanks!
Someone can help? I tried to get low the debanding option that an user suggested to me, but i think he was looking at the wrong image.

Btw, now, i've added descriptions as you can see.
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