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Old 14th March 2017, 09:10   #14161  |  Link
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Not yet on RareWares; asked in Hydrogenaud.io for it. The media-autobuild_suite unfortunately builds different DLLs.
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Not yet on RareWares; asked in Hydrogenaud.io for it.
Flac.dll 1.3.2 is available on RareWares.
http://www.rarewares.org/files/lossless/

flac_dll-1.3.2-git-20170314-icl.zip
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"That escalated quickly." - A pity that their forum notifications seem to be broken for me. Thanks for notifying me (us) here. Plus: Lossless web page.
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Just found, dunno if #old:

aften.dll git-20091226-icl11_1_054
dcadec.dll 0.2.0

Tested and working.

If somebody has other newer and working dll's to replace, please post.
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Just found, dunno if #old:

aften.dll git-20091226-icl11_1_054
dcadec.dll 0.2.0

Tested and working.

If somebody has other newer and working dll's to replace, please post.
Might be impossible to get newer dcadec DLL's now that foo86 has moved everything to FFMPEG.

The git for FFMPEG should be more updated than GitHub.

commits from foo86:
https://git.ffmpeg.org/gitweb/ffmpeg...author&s=foo86

commits about avcodec/dca in general:
https://git.ffmpeg.org/gitweb/ffmpeg...=avcodec%2Fdca

Madshi might have to remove dcadec DLL's in favor of FFMPEG udpates.

Which means, we'd just have to wait for madshi to update his modified libraries whenever FFMPEG goes through major updates.
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The same for aften dll's, maybe are fast thanks to wisodev optimizations, but with the same problems than old aften

The AC3 encoder included in ffmpeg is the preferred.
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Newbie trying to get eac3to to work with test

Hello all,

I have been lurking the doom9 forums for quite some time now, and been experimenting to get eac3to work, but I am a little stuck.

Running a test on my command line, I am getting the following messages:

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\User\Documents\Conversions>C:\Users\User\Documents\eac3to\eac3to.exe -t
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eac3to (v3.31) is up to date
Nero Audio Decoder (Nero 6 or older) doesn't seem to be installed
http://www.nero.com/eng/store-blu-ray.html
CAUTION: You need Nero 7. Nero 8 won't work with eac3to.
ArcSoft DTS Decoder doesn't seem to be installed
http://www.arcsoft.com/products/totalmediatheatre
Sonic Audio Decoder (3.31.0.0) doesn't seem to be installed

Haali Matroska Muxer (2013-04-14) is installed
Nero AAC Encoder (1.5.4.0) is installed
Surcode DTS Encoder (1.0.29.0) is installed

Does anybody know where I can find/buy the Nero Audio decoder? As well as the ArcSoft and Sonic ones? Also, which versions will work best?

Are Libav / ffmpeg the same program?


Thank you for all of your help. I usually use Headac3e and tsMuxer, but I am hearing this is a much better encoder. Would love to get started, thank you for your support!

Sorry for all the questions, just trying to get started!
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Old 22nd March 2017, 05:34   #14169  |  Link
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Are Libav / ffmpeg the same program?
Depends on the desired meaning...

The ffmpeg project contains libraries for the handling of containers (libavformat) and contents (libavcodec).

During some stage of development, some developers split and created a fork of ffmpeg, named libav. It doesn't matter much, probably, from which fork you prefer to use the codec libraries as long as they are up to date, so they can handle modern HD audio formats as well.

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Does anybody know where I can find/buy the Nero Audio decoder? As well as the ArcSoft and Sonic ones?
In most recent versions, the libav* libraries should be able to handle most formats with satisfying quality. To use 3rd party decoders, you would possibly have to have bought this software a while ago, or use "codec packs" regardless of software licenses... (see forum rules).

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Also, which versions will work best?
Toughest question, regarding the ArcSoft decoder; several versions have different (dis-)advantages. I believe only "fanatic" audiophiles care. Home users won't recognize a difference to the results of libav* decoders while just listening in their living rooms, especially after compressing with another lossy format...
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ArcSoft has pretty much been replaced by DcaDec. The only thing it cannot decode compared to ArcSoft is DTS Express and that's only because the version in eac3to is outdated. The newer one in ffmpeg can decode it.
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Nero Audio Decoder (Nero 6 or older) doesn't seem to be installed
ArcSoft DTS Decoder doesn't seem to be installed
Sonic Audio Decoder (3.31.0.0) doesn't seem to be installed
- DirectShow Nero Audio Decoder (not free) is only needed to decode audio AAC.
You can extract the AAC track from a .mkv and use other free tool (ffmpeg,...) to recode, if you need recode, most the times is better preserve the AAC track as is.
Install not free Nero 7 for only this function is not recommended.

- ArcSoft (not free) DTS Decoder is only needed to decode DTS Express (some comentary audio tracks in BD's) like sneaker_ger say.
Also ffmpeg can be used for that.
The included decoder (dcadec) is equal, or best, than ArcSoft for DTS standard and HD.

- Sonic Audio Decoder (not free) is not needed at all.
It was used at first time to compare outputs, but now it is not recommended.

You can work with eac3to without these 3 commercial soft's.
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dcadec can only decode the lossy stream "core"
This is wrong. libdcadec can decode the full lossless DTS-HD parts, even the "strange setup" streams that ArcSoft does not decode lossless in all cases.
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eac3to v3.31 + ArcSoft DTS Decoder doesn't work anymore?

Just one question,

When I had eac3to v3.27, I could decode DTS Master Audio with ArcSoft Decoder:

Code:
eac3to v3.27
command line: "C:\Program Files (x86)\eac3to\eac3to.exe" "F:\BDRips\Bob Marley & The Wailers\Legend\Blu-ray\FullDisc\BD_VOLUME\BDMV\STREAM" 1) 4:"D:\MyBDRips\1_4_audio.flac"  -progressnumbers
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M2TS, 1 video track, 3 audio tracks, 1:07:21, 24p /1.001
1: Chapters, 16 chapters
2: h264/AVC, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9)
3: RAW/PCM, English, 2.0 channels, 24 bits, 96kHz
4: DTS Master Audio, English, 5.1 channels, 24 bits, 96kHz
   (core: DTS-96/24, 5.1 channels, 24 bits, 1509kbps, 96kHz)
5: TrueHD/AC3, English, 5.1 channels, 96kHz
   (embedded: AC3, 5.1 channels, 640kbps, 48kHz)
[a04] Extracting audio track number 4...
[a04] Decoding with ArcSoft DTS Decoder...
[a04] Encoding FLAC with libFlac...
[a04] Creating file "D:\MyBDRips\1_4_audio.flac"...
[a04] The original audio track has a constant bit depth of 24 bits.
Video track 2 contains 96897 frames.
eac3to processing took 41 minutes, 17 seconds.
Done.
I recently updated to eac3to v3.31 and now, I can not decode DTS Master Audio stream anymore.

Code:
[22:11:40] Retrieving features
[22:11:40] Arguments: "F:\BDRips\Bob Marley & The Wailers\Legend \Blu-ray\FullDisc\BD_VOLUME\BDMV"
[22:11:41] Feature Retrieval Completed
[22:11:41] Retrieving streams
[22:11:41] Arguments: "F:\BDRips\Bob Marley & The Wailers\Legend \Blu-ray\FullDisc\BD_VOLUME\BDMV" 1) -progressnumbers
[22:11:46] Stream Retrieval Completed
[22:11:58] Extracting streams
[22:11:59] Arguments: "F:\BDRips\Bob Marley & The Wailers\Legend \Blu-ray\FullDisc\BD_VOLUME\BDMV" 1) 4:"D:\MyBDRips\Bob Marley & The Wailers\Legend\Blu-ray\FullDisc\BD_VOLUME\BDMV\1_4_audio.flac"  -progressnumbers
[22:12:04] a04 Extracting audio track number 4...
[22:12:04] a04 Decoding with libDcaDec DTS Decoder...
[22:12:04] a04 libDcaDec reported the warning "XLL output not lossless".
[22:12:04] a04 Encoding FLAC with libFlac...
[22:12:05] a04 Creating file "D:\MyBDRips\Bob Marley & The Wailers\Legend\Blu-ray\FullDisc\BD_VOLUME\BDMV\1_4_audio.flac"...
[22:12:15] Stream Extraction Completed
Code:
C:\Program Files (x86)\eac3to>eac3to -test
eac3to (v3.31) is up to date
Nero Audio Decoder (Nero 6 or older) doesn't seem to be installed
  http://www.nero.com/eng/store-blu-ray.html
  CAUTION: You need Nero 7. Nero 8 won't work with eac3to.
ArcSoft DTS Decoder (1.1.0.0) works fine
Sonic Audio Decoder (3.31.0.0) doesn't seem to be installed
Haali Matroska Muxer doesn't seem to be installed
  http://haali.net/mkv
Nero AAC Encoder could not be located
  http://www.nero.com/eng/nero-aac-codec.html
  Copy NeroAacEnc.exe to the eac3to or to the Windows folder.
Surcode DTS Encoder doesn't seem to be installed
  http://www.surcode.com
I read that "libDcaDec is now default for all DTS tracks except XSA / low bitrate"...

Does anybody know what's going on?

Thank you very much
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This is wrong. libdcadec can decode the full lossless DTS-HD parts, even the "strange setup" streams that ArcSoft does not decode lossless in all cases.
And do you know why I have this warning message?

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[22:12:04] a04 Decoding with libDcaDec DTS Decoder...
[22:12:04] a04 libDcaDec reported the warning "XLL output not lossless".
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And do you know why I have this warning message?

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[22:12:04] a04 Decoding with libDcaDec DTS Decoder...
[22:12:04] a04 libDcaDec reported the warning "XLL output not lossless".
The latest eac3to uses an outdated build of libdcadec.
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- DirectShow Nero Audio Decoder (not free) is only needed to decode audio AAC.
You can extract the AAC track from a .mkv and use other free tool (ffmpeg,...) to recode, if you need recode, most the times is better preserve the AAC track as is.
Install not free Nero 7 for only this function is not recommended.
Are you confusing Nero Audio Decoder and Nero AAC Encoder? (which I already have) Or are they similar in any way?

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- ArcSoft (not free) DTS Decoder is only needed to decode DTS Express (some comentary audio tracks in BD's) like sneaker_ger say.
Also ffmpeg can be used for that.
The included decoder (dcadec) is equal, or best, than ArcSoft for DTS standard and HD.
Yeah, it seems as if you need a very early version of ArcSoft... I tried installing ArcSoft TotalMedia Theatre 6.7 and eac3to doesn't seem to pick up the DTS Decoder. Even when I moved it into System Folders.
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I recently updated to eac3to v3.31 and now, I can not decode DTS Master Audio stream anymore.

Code:
[22:11:40] Retrieving features
[22:11:40] Arguments: "F:\BDRips\Bob Marley & The Wailers\Legend \Blu-ray\FullDisc\BD_VOLUME\BDMV"
[22:11:41] Feature Retrieval Completed
[22:11:41] Retrieving streams
[22:11:41] Arguments: "F:\BDRips\Bob Marley & The Wailers\Legend \Blu-ray\FullDisc\BD_VOLUME\BDMV" 1) -progressnumbers
[22:11:46] Stream Retrieval Completed
[22:11:58] Extracting streams
[22:11:59] Arguments: "F:\BDRips\Bob Marley & The Wailers\Legend \Blu-ray\FullDisc\BD_VOLUME\BDMV" 1) 4:"D:\MyBDRips\Bob Marley & The Wailers\Legend\Blu-ray\FullDisc\BD_VOLUME\BDMV\1_4_audio.flac"  -progressnumbers
[22:12:04] a04 Extracting audio track number 4...
[22:12:04] a04 Decoding with libDcaDec DTS Decoder...
[22:12:04] a04 libDcaDec reported the warning "XLL output not lossless".
[22:12:04] a04 Encoding FLAC with libFlac...
[22:12:05] a04 Creating file "D:\MyBDRips\Bob Marley & The Wailers\Legend\Blu-ray\FullDisc\BD_VOLUME\BDMV\1_4_audio.flac"...
[22:12:15] Stream Extraction Completed
IIRC, you may use the -arcsoft switch for forcing eac3to to use the well-known DTSDecoderDll.DLL.
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The latest eac3to uses an outdated build of libdcadec.
OK, I downloaded the latest release version 0.2.0, released on 4 Jan 2016. The warning message "XLL output not lossless" disappeared now!!!

But instead of 24 bits, the decoded file has 16 bits, with libDcaDec DTS Decoder and also with ArcSoft DTS Decoder

Decoding with libDcaDec DTS Decoder...

Code:
eac3to v3.31
command line: "C:\Program Files (x86)\eac3to\eac3to.exe" "D:\BDrips\Def Leppard\
Viva! Hysteria\BDMV" 2) 1:"D:\BDrips\Def Leppard\Viva! Hysteria\2_1_chapter.txt" 
3:"D:\BDrips\Def Leppard\Viva! Hysteria\2_3_audio.flac"  -progressnumbers
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M2TS, 1 video track, 2 audio tracks, 0:38:44, 24p /1.001
1: Chapters, 8 chapters
2: h264/AVC, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9)
3: DTS Master Audio, English, 5.1 channels, 24 bits, 48kHz
   (core: DTS, 5.1 channels, 1509kbps, 48kHz)
4: DTS Master Audio, English, 2.0 channels, 24 bits, 48kHz
   (core: DTS, 2.0 channels, 1509kbps, 48kHz)
Creating file "D:\BDrips\Def Leppard\Viva! Hysteria\2_1_chapter.txt"...
[a03] Extracting audio track number 3...
[a03] Decoding with libDcaDec DTS Decoder...
[a03] Encoding FLAC with libFlac...
[a03] Creating file "D:\BDrips\Def Leppard\Viva! Hysteria\2_3_audio.flac"...
[a03] The original audio track has a constant bit depth of 16 bits.
[a03] Superfluous zero bytes detected, will be stripped in 2nd pass.
[a03] Starting 2nd pass...
[a03] Decoding FLAC...
[a03] Reducing depth from 24 to 16 bits...
[a03] Encoding FLAC with libFlac...
[a03] Creating file "D:\BDRips\Def Leppard\Viva! Hysteria\2_3_audio.flac"...
[a03] The processed audio track has a constant bit depth of 16 bits.
Video track 2 contains 55725 frames.
eac3to processing took 10 minutes, 50 seconds.
Done.
Decoding with ArcSoft DTS Decoder...

Code:
==> ..\BDMV\PLAYLIST\01002.mpls
>> M2TS, 1 video track, 2 audio tracks, 1:25:21, 24p /1.001 (16 chapters)
> 3: DTS Master Audio, English, 5.1 channels, 24 bits, 48kHz

> 4: DTS Master Audio, English, 2.0 channels, 24 bits, 48kHz

> eac3to v3.31
command line: "eac3to.exe" "D:\BDrips\Def Leppard\Viva! Hysteria\BDMV\PLAYLIST\01002.mpls" 
1) 4:"D:\BDrips\Def Leppard\Viva! Hysteria\Output.wav" -arcsoft -progressnumbers
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
M2TS, 1 video track, 2 audio tracks, 1:25:21, 24p /1.001
1: Chapters, 16 chapters
2: h264/AVC, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9)
3: DTS Master Audio, English, 5.1 channels, 24 bits, 48kHz
   (core: DTS, 5.1 channels, 1509kbps, 48kHz)
4: DTS Master Audio, English, 2.0 channels, 24 bits, 48kHz
   (core: DTS, 2.0 channels, 1509kbps, 48kHz)
[a04] Extracting audio track number 4...
[a04] Decoding with ArcSoft DTS Decoder...
[a04] Writing WAV...
[a04] Creating file "D:\BDrips\Def Leppard\Viva! Hysteria\Output.wav"...
[a04] The original audio track has a constant bit depth of 16 bits.
[a04] Superfluous zero bytes detected, will be stripped in 2nd pass.
[a04] Starting 2nd pass...
[a04] Reading WAV...
[a04] Stripping zero bytes...
[a04] Writing WAV...
[a04] Creating file "D:\BDrips\Def Leppard\Viva! Hysteria\Output.wav"...
Video track 2 contains 122783 frames.
eac3to processing took 6 minutes, 37 seconds.
Done.


Thank you.

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IIRC, all decoders for DTS (dcadec, arcsoft) do the same thing with "XLL output no lossless".
Except, they were all silent, so the only difference was that the recent dcadec allowed the message to be seen.

One user did make a custom build that just hid the message again for the placebo users who want that message "out of sigh of mind".

Arcsoft has so many versions, and no one has thoroughly tested the last version (1.09), so we can't really say if it behaves the same as previous versions or has different negative behaviours like some versions of Arcsoft.

For Arcsoft, v1.0.0.0 is the most known version to handle most scenarios.

But Dcadec should be the same and handle all formats (including Strange Setup, which Arcsoft requires a specific version) except for DTS Express.
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[a03] The original audio track has a constant bit depth of 16 bits.
[a03] Superfluous zero bytes detected, will be stripped in 2nd pass.
Superfluous means "unnecessary", so it was really 16bit stored in a 24bit.
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