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Old 3rd November 2016, 21:44   #39921  |  Link
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Thank you! I'll try using another mode!
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Old 4th November 2016, 00:39   #39922  |  Link
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Lol he didn't even mention he was using DXVA native. Huhn, you're really on fire !
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Old 4th November 2016, 05:29   #39923  |  Link
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Yeah f.lux seems to run in the background and even when it's not doing anything and interfere with the present queue.

On another note has anyone figured out how to avoid the task bar in windows 10 always being on top of windows when playing mpc hc in always on top windowed mode with MadVR? Sometimes I try to watch video in a small window in front of a fullscreen windowed game and it's annoying me that it places always the task bar in front when playing video.

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Old 4th November 2016, 21:55   #39924  |  Link
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Only me that notices ghosting with 3D external subtitles?

Also, can 3D only be run in DX11 mode and exclusive fullscreen?
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Old 4th November 2016, 23:33   #39925  |  Link
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you need dx11 for frame packed 3D FSE is not needed if i remember correctly.

the alternative 3D mode should work without DX11 but they are halve resolution.
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Old 5th November 2016, 10:45   #39926  |  Link
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you need dx11 for frame packed 3D FSE is not needed if i remember correctly.

the alternative 3D mode should work without DX11 but they are halve resolution.
Ah, now I get it.

Is there a reason though why "Ghosting" appears on external subtitles? I'm using xysubfilter, the movie also seems a lot darker than usual.
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Old 5th November 2016, 10:58   #39927  |  Link
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sorry i don't know about the ghosting. 3D on most TVs was far from perfect maybe it is crosstalk.

if your screen is an active 3D screen than it is normal that the brightness drops.
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Old 5th November 2016, 11:29   #39928  |  Link
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Sorry guys, my new algo needs some more tweaking time. Maybe 1-2 weeks more, I don't know.
Is it done yet? The anticipation is killing me.. I need something, anything.
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Old 5th November 2016, 11:54   #39929  |  Link
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Fair enough. Unfortunately I need more time, maybe a week, I don't know. I'll give you a little teaser, though, to ease the waiting. The new algo is probably going to be called "NG1" (next generation version 1). It's my own algorithm. It's not finished, but image quality will probably not change much, anymore.

original -- | -- Jinc AR -- | -- super-xbr 100 -- | -- NNEDI3 256 taps + SuperRes 4 -- | -- NG1 (wip) -- | -- waifu2x

FWIW, waifu2x is much too slow for realtime use, I only added it as a reference point for image quality. I've picked this American Dad image because it shows big differences between the various upscaling algorithms. With natural images the difference is smaller.

I'll not answer any questions at this time.
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Old 5th November 2016, 12:34   #39930  |  Link
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Fair enough. Unfortunately I need more time, maybe a week, I don't know. I'll give you a little teaser, though, to ease the waiting. The new algo is probably going to be called "NG1" (next generation version 1). It's my own algorithm. It's not finished, but image quality will probably not change much, anymore.

original -- | -- Jinc AR -- | -- super-xbr 100 -- | -- NNEDI3 256 taps + SuperRes 4 -- | -- NG1 (wip) -- | -- waifu2x

FWIW, waifu2x is much too slow for realtime use, I only added it as a reference point for image quality. I've picked this American Dad image because it shows big differences between the various upscaling algorithms. With natural images the difference is smaller.

I'll not answer any questions at this time.
Looking very good imo. Can't wait to try it

It's clearly better than NNEDI3 with superres, so I guess SR would no longer be needed. Hopefully performance allows upscaling from 720-1080p to 4k on a GTX 1070.

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Old 5th November 2016, 12:36   #39931  |  Link
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That looks sweet. I'd like to see it vs NNEDI3 256 neurons maybe without SR4. I know you're not answering questions but it looks like reduce ringing isn't enabled for NNEDI3 either that or SR4 is doing that.
Not really a fair comparison with that much haloing going on IMO. Anyway, this looks impressive, thanks!

Even better than Waifu2x (it's just sharper and introduces artifacts) So I'll definitely use this NG1, looks very pleasing.

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Old 5th November 2016, 12:40   #39932  |  Link
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The original resolution image is there, so you can create comparison images yourself, with any combination of settings you like.
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Old 5th November 2016, 13:23   #39933  |  Link
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holy sh..!!! that looks good! Thank you for that teaser!! Can't wait to get my hands on the next madvr version!
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Old 5th November 2016, 14:39   #39934  |  Link
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@madshi

Is NG1 somehow comparable to NNEDI3 64 neurons in terms of GPU power required for improvements that you have demonstrated here? Thanks
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Old 5th November 2016, 15:04   #39935  |  Link
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Fair enough. Unfortunately I need more time, maybe a week, I don't know. I'll give you a little teaser, though, to ease the waiting. The new algo is probably going to be called "NG1" (next generation version 1). It's my own algorithm. It's not finished, but image quality will probably not change much, anymore.

original -- | -- Jinc AR -- | -- super-xbr 100 -- | -- NNEDI3 256 taps + SuperRes 4 -- | -- NG1 (wip) -- | -- waifu2x

FWIW, waifu2x is much too slow for realtime use, I only added it as a reference point for image quality. I've picked this American Dad image because it shows big differences between the various upscaling algorithms. With natural images the difference is smaller.

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Ah thank you very much! Very very very good result!
I think you should reconsider the name.
Why not a "madSomething" like name?
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Old 5th November 2016, 15:07   #39936  |  Link
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the new algorithm looks better than nnedi3. waifux2 still looks best though. too bad, I guess its not possible to make waifux2 faster?
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Old 5th November 2016, 15:54   #39937  |  Link
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wow It definitely looks better than NNEDI3!
I hope my gtx1070 (maybe my gtx960 too) will be able to use the new algo.
thank you madshi, you are a genius.
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Old 5th November 2016, 16:15   #39938  |  Link
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Wow, a new scaling algorithm, and it probably outperforms NNEDI3 + SR?
Seems like it's very sharp and artifact free at the same time. Since the contours are not bloated, hopefully the same will be true for naturalistic content.
If yes: You did it. I'll be really glad to get rid of the ringing in most web videos (if the GPU costs aren't much higher than NNEDI3 + SR).
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Old 5th November 2016, 19:08   #39939  |  Link
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The new algo looks great! Very sharp and clean. It'll look even better with SuperRes.

I hope it will be available for Chroma and Image Downscaling as well.

Some other ideas for the name: madVS (mad video scaler)

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i wonder why waifux2 and NG1 are changing the red color...
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