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Old 22nd July 2016, 01:48   #38841  |  Link
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So I got 3d MVC to work great with MPC-HC and madvr using MVC MKV. However the subtitles are flat. Is there anyway to fix that? It appears its only showing one of the two subtitles needed for depth.
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Old 22nd July 2016, 07:01   #38842  |  Link
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I have 2 problems with 3D playback using LAV + madvr.
Config i7-2600k + gtx980 + win 8.1, latest nightly builds of MPC-HC and LAV.
1. nvidia refresh rate problem - 23.971 instead of 23.976. in 2D mode i fixed it with 24Hz monitor refresh rate (24p instead of 23p in madvr settings) + reclock
in 3D i cant set 24Hz in madvr - 23p mode switches on automaticaly.... how can i set 24p in 3D?
2. artefacts in 3D mode in some scenes (every time in same moment). red car on screenshot is example of it. in powerdvd 16 all is ok, so its not BD3D problem. I think its decoder's problem, but not sure. how to fix this bug?
no ideas?
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Old 22nd July 2016, 11:03   #38843  |  Link
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27,04 ms / 140 w (with automatically detect hard coded black bars feature & crop black bars)
33,45 ms / 170 w (without detecting hard coded black bars)

tested with 1920x1080 (Avatar Mkv, real 16.9 fullscreen without black bars), 23,976, 8 Bit AVC:
34,1 ms / 172 w
170 w???!!!!
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And what command I have to write to reset it to default after my testings?
Doesn't this work?
nvidiaInspector.exe -setPstateLimit:0,0
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Anyway.. may wish to avoid excessive talk about the 1060 here.
Agreed, open a new topic somewhere and link it here.
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Old 22nd July 2016, 12:06   #38844  |  Link
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Ok, last post on the gtx1060 / rx480 topic, let's get back to madvr: (you can write me some pm if you got questions)


here is my upgraded comparison:

http://www.file-upload.net/download-...ison.xlsx.html


keep in mind, that this is a custom gtx 1060 (palit superjetstream) with higher clocks than standard 1060 vs. standard RX 480. With that in mind, I think they are very close in terms of madvr performance. RX 480 custom designs may get the same madvr performance as the gtx. Only power consumption is a big plus on the gtx.


Some quick notes:

- the Palit Superjetstream is totally silent. Even under heavy load you can not hear the coolers outside of the computer case.

- under low loads the GTX is using different powerstates. Thats good for normal viewing (saves power) but hard to measure for my comaprison. For example, with low madvr settings the gtx starts with 10 ms rendering times, but after some seconds it switches to 28ms, while using only 1/3 power. I think thats a good thing. RX didn't seem to have such a feature.

- I tested without any tools to deactivate the power states of the gtx. Wrote down the performance within the first seconds. I will repeat the test within the next day with deactivated power saving feature and upgrade my excel file, if anything changes. But I think it is already very precisely.
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Old 22nd July 2016, 13:25   #38845  |  Link
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Sunset1982, thanks for the test! Glad that in terms of performance RX480 and GTX1060 are almost the same in madVR. Did you decide which card will stay with you already?
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Old 22nd July 2016, 14:44   #38846  |  Link
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Your next target is the new Titan X.

I am just kidding, thanks for the good work!
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Old 22nd July 2016, 16:12   #38847  |  Link
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Maybe I stay with the 1060, because I got it here already and no custom RX is available right now.

If there where a good custom RX model for a price up to 250 € I would go for the rx480, just because of the price and the good amd driver support even for older cards. Only thing that must be investigated is the green screen error with madvr when using HEVC decoder and lav's DXVA.
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Old 22nd July 2016, 17:11   #38848  |  Link
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So I got 3d MVC to work great with MPC-HC and madvr using MVC MKV. However the subtitles are flat. Is there anyway to fix that? It appears its only showing one of the two subtitles needed for depth.
I tried it with Kodi and the subtitles are at the proper depth, is this a limitation with MadVR or mpc-hc?
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Old 22nd July 2016, 18:57   #38849  |  Link
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Regarding the 3D, I use stereoscopic player with "Side By Side" 4k 23p Playback, this makes the movie 1080P (1920x2160) and not half vertical res as most SBS converts.

The reason behind this is because MVC subtitles generally are buggy with MKV because there's no subtitle plane tracking in the MKV container, this will make the subtitles 2D, and if the movie is 16:9 the 3D effect will cut through the subtitles, often disrupting the viewing and making it annoying, if not dangerous for the eyes.

The only way to fix this "bug" on MVC MKVs was by putting the MVC video on the right and the 2D on left with subtitles on both sides and playing it side by side, if you don't have a 4k TV this would cut vertical res in half as said, but it's better than buggy playback.
Another thing is that you can't use .srt subtitles with MVC 3D effect as far as i'm aware, you need the original pgs in .m2ts container with the MVC VUI/SEI.

I wonder if you'll add this onto MadVR, as it would be a great feature if you can't fix the MKV 3D MVC subtitles.
Was this subtitle issue ever fixed and maybe I'm doing it wrong?
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Old 22nd July 2016, 23:23   #38850  |  Link
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madvr portable?

Can madvr work in "portable mode"? MPC-HC and BE,... have lav filters built-in and have working portable versions, the only thing missing is madvr as renderer.

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Old 23rd July 2016, 00:40   #38851  |  Link
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Can madvr work in "portable mode"?
MadVR is portable. Just install it in the same directory and allow it write permissions to the folder so it can create it's settings.dat.
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Old 23rd July 2016, 00:51   #38852  |  Link
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MadVR is portable. Just install it in the same directory and allow it write permissions to the folder so it can create it's settings.dat.
madVR is not what we think of as portable though, madVR must be registered as a directshow filter which requires admin privileges at least once.
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Old 23rd July 2016, 03:31   #38853  |  Link
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madVR is not what we think of as portable though, madVR must be registered as a directshow filter which requires admin privileges at least once.
True,. This is as good as you get, take it or leave it.
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Old 23rd July 2016, 04:00   #38854  |  Link
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I have a 3D playing question / maybe problem.

If I enable stereo3D in GPU config (GTX1070), then play a 3D movie, works fine.
After quit player, go back player another, no 3D.
Went to GPU config, stereo3D is no longer sticky.

I think there is some configuration item in Madvr can manage this, but I have tried all items under render/3D, no luck. It sounds everything I play a 3D movie, I need to visit GPU's configuration panel to enable stero3D there first...
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Old 23rd July 2016, 04:11   #38855  |  Link
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Can madvr work in "portable mode"? MPC-HC and BE,... have lav filters built-in and have working portable versions, the only thing missing is madvr as renderer.
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MadVR is portable. Just install it in the same directory and allow it write permissions to the folder so it can create it's settings.dat.
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madVR is not what we think of as portable though, madVR must be registered as a directshow filter which requires admin privileges at least once.
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True,. This is as good as you get, take it or leave it.
Not portable then; thanks for answering.
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Old 23rd July 2016, 04:44   #38856  |  Link
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Not portable then; thanks for answering.
Try using the Options->External Filters->Add Filter...->Browse in MPC.
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Old 23rd July 2016, 07:48   #38857  |  Link
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Try using the Options->External Filters->Add Filter...->Browse in MPC.
Confirmed, this works. Set renderer to system default and add madVR as external filter with prefer setting. Set MPC to store settings in player folder and I guess that's it.
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Old 23rd July 2016, 13:05   #38858  |  Link
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I came across a odd problem while I was reset madvr after i actived Error Diffusion or CTRL+J renderer stats and media player start flickering
and when i Direct3D 11 for presentation alone media player start flickering
this happend in both windows 8 and 10
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i use the latest version of madvr LAV MPC HC/BE
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Try using the Options->External Filters->Add Filter...->Browse in MPC.
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Confirmed, this works. Set renderer to system default and add madVR as external filter with prefer setting. Set MPC to store settings in player folder and I guess that's it.
Thank you
On a side note, using madvr this way seems to break internal subtitle rendering in MPC-BE and HC, but in BE I can use xysubfilter using the above method while MPC-HC doesn't seem to support xysubfilter.
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Old 24th July 2016, 15:17   #38860  |  Link
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I don't have 4k screen, otherwise I would do his test to compare numbers but at 1440p and setting I mentioned earlier, render time difference is about 1-2ms and sometimes less as you don't have to do downscaling from doubled 720p image


I think there is no perfect settings to this clip, looks at this scene:
100% luminance 0% saturation: http://i.imgur.com/GP9KSYC.jpg
0% luminance 100% saturation: http://i.imgur.com/6e5DiMB.jpg

either setting produces wrong clouds


I guess you're right, at least sony demo stays withing 4000 nits. too bad there are so few hdr demos that you can play with madvr that are publicly available
I've come across this the other day after seeing "Calibrating HDR, Part 2" on AVSForum.com

Quality Free Video samples correctly encoded:
https://hdr.avtop.com/hdr_solutions_avtop
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