madVR - high quality video renderer (GPU assisted)

[seiyafan]

Has anyone compared or had the knowledge of performance difference between the 1070 and Fury in MadVR?

[shmizan]

Originally Posted by Pat357

I have a problem that I can't see or track my mouse movements in FSE mode.
There is no typical mouse "arrow" visible any more as soon as FSE is enabled.
When moving my mouse blindly, I see the typical MadVR FSE time-bar, and clicking starts seeking.
So this part seems to work, but I can't choose to what time I seek because the mouse is completely invisible.
It's obviously an annoying thing !

Environment Info :
MPC-HC (latest)
madVR v0.87.13
LAV v0.64
OS : Windows 7 (x64)
CPU: Intel Core i7 970 @ 3.20GHz (6C/12T)
GPU: GeForce GTX 680 (8 EU) @ 1084 MHz (347.25)

anyone else having this? or had this?
I have the exact same problem. couldn't find a setting in MPC-HC for this. I use:
MPC-HC 1.70.10
madVR v0.90.21
LAV v0.68.1
OS : Windows 8.1 (x64)

[jkauff]

Originally Posted by shmizan

anyone else having this? or had this?
I have the exact same problem. couldn't find a setting in MPC-HC for this. I use:
MPC-HC 1.70.10
madVR v0.90.21
LAV v0.68.1
OS : Windows 8.1 (x64)

No problems here with the same setup and a GTX770. Third-party mouse driver problem, maybe?

[Sunset1982]

I'll get my hands on a GTX 1070 and an AMD RX480 at the end of the week. I'll compare their madvr performance against each other an will post the results here.

Anyone got some wishes or suggestions you'd like me to test?

My priority will be upscaling 1080p to 4k...



If I got enough time I will also add my old GTX 970 to the comparison.

[aufkrawall]

Would be neat if you could try out how well DXVA2 CB works together with madVR in windowed/borderless mode on the RX 480.
My render queues are a jumpy with DXVA2 CB on the R9 390 with 1080p 60fps (but playback is stable, at least since some newer driver) and native doesn't worky anymore at all with madVR without framedrops.
Classic question would be how much NNEDI3 neurons and SuperRes passes are possible for 1080p 30/60fps doubling.

[Sunset1982]

Would be neat if you could try out how well DXVA2 CB works together with madVR in windowed/borderless mode on the RX 480.
My render queues are a jumpy with DXVA2 CB on the R9 390 with 1080p 60fps (but playback is stable, at least since some newer driver) and native doesn't worky anymore at all with madVR without framedrops.
Classic question would be how much NNEDI3 neurons and SuperRes passes are possible for 1080p 30/60fps doubling.

ok, I'll do what I can and I will let you know.

[Xello]

Does anyone have much experience using a 2560x1440 monitor? Just got a PG279Q.

Having one issue, the refresh rate auto change on fullscreen.

I guess you can't put in 1440p23, 1440p24 etc on the list of display modes because it comes up as invalid. I have 1080p23, 1080p24 etc but MadVR wont switch my new monitor to that.

[Asmodian]

Originally Posted by Xello

Does anyone have much experience using a 2560x1440 monitor? Just got a PG279Q.

Having one issue, the refresh rate auto change on fullscreen.

I guess you can't put in 1440p23, 1440p24 etc on the list of display modes because it comes up as invalid. I have 1080p23, 1080p24 etc but MadVR wont switch my new monitor to that.

Use 2560x1440p23, 2560x1440p24, etc. instead.

I have been using 2560x1440 for years now.

[Xello]

Originally Posted by Asmodian

Use 2560x1440p23, 2560x1440p24, etc. instead.

I have been using 2560x1440 for years now.

Thanks, that does come up as valid. However, it still wont switch!

[Asmodian]

Originally Posted by Xello

Thanks, that does come up as valid. However, it still wont switch!

The monitor probably doesn't support refresh rates that low.
From the spec sheet:

2) Signal Frequency
DisplayPort 34~209KHz(H)/30~165Hz(V)
HDMI: 30~140KHz(H)/24~60Hz(V)

Try using p48 or even p96 instead. You may need to setup custom resolutions.

[Xello]

Originally Posted by Asmodian

The monitor probably doesn't support refresh rates that low.
From the spec sheet:



Try using p48 or even p96 instead. You may need to setup custom resolutions.

Yes I thought that was odd when i looked at the spec sheet, as this is a gsync monitor so it supports all refresh rates from 1 to max (165 in this monitor's case). I disabled gsync while i troubleshoot this issue though, just in case it was interfering with anything.

24hz is definitely supported as I can set it from Nvidia CP, playback content normally, and MadVR reports the 23.976hz in this situation. Will continue to test things out and report any oddities.

Note: btw I'm connecting through DP.

[nevcairiel]

Originally Posted by Xello

Yes I thought that was odd when i looked at the spec sheet, as this is a gsync monitor so it supports all refresh rates from 1 to max (165 in this monitor's case).

Actually G-SYNCs minimum refresh is 30Hz, if your FPS drops below that it internally switches to something similar to ordinary VSYNC.
Most screens even have a higher minimum refresh above that due to panel requirements, typically in the 40Hz range somewhere.

[Xello]

Originally Posted by nevcairiel

Actually G-SYNCs minimum refresh is 30Hz, if your FPS drops below that it internally switches to something similar to ordinary VSYNC.
Most screens even have a higher minimum refresh above that due to panel requirements, typically in the 40Hz range somewhere.

Gotcha, MadVR is reporting correctly though right?

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...4/asus24hz.png

[Asmodian]

Originally Posted by nevcairiel

Actually G-SYNCs minimum refresh is 30Hz, if your FPS drops below that it internally switches to something similar to ordinary VSYNC.
Most screens even have a higher minimum refresh above that due to panel requirements, typically in the 40Hz range somewhere.

Actually that isn't how it works. The module in the monitor starts duplicating frames internally in a predictive manner, so it starts duplicating when the frame rate drops below something a bit above 30 so it almost never has to use the V-sync like mode, unless the frame rate fluctuates in a way it wasn't expecting. All G-sync displays I have seen have a min refresh rate of 30Hz but the Freesync displays often use something higher (35-47).

The G-sync refresh rates have nothing to do with what modes the monitor will accept however, that is still up to the EDID info like always.

My XB270HU has a 24Hz mode over displayport, so madVR will happily switch to 2560x1440p23, but it has the same min G-sync rate of 30Hz.

Personally I suggest setting your monitor to 165Hz and using smooth motion, no messing with things and having the monitor changing modes, the blended frames will not be onscreen long.

Originally Posted by Xello

Gotcha, MadVR is reporting correctly though right?

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...4/asus24hz.png

Odd, my list of refresh rates looks similar to yours (only missing the 165Hz option) but madVR will happily switch to 2560x1440p23. I am running Win10 pro x64.

madVR is reporting correctly, I assume the monitor is duplicating the frames internally.

[Xello]

Sigh..................

I was setting the display modes....................

Of my old display...................................

Just..............

Working fine now.

BTW that smooth motion suggestion made me vomit :P But I see your logic so might as well see what it looks like.
edit: doesn't look bad actually, I thought it was gonna cause the soap opera effect

[Asmodian]

Originally Posted by Xello

Sigh..................

I was setting the display modes....................

Of my old display...................................

Just..............

Working fine now.

BTW that smooth motion suggestion made me vomit :P But I see your logic so might as well see what it looks like.
edit: doesn't look bad actually, I thought it was gonna cause the soap opera effect

MadVR's smooth motion is not frame interpolation, it works very well on high refresh rate displays without changing the frame rate of the source. It is nothing like all the new motion interpolation modes on TVs or SVP, etc.

[Magik Mark]

Why is it madvr reports my display refresh rates as 23.970 and my source filter (LAV) reports it as 23.976? Is there a way to correct this?

[huhn]

a custom resolution can change that. but if you are aiming at 23.976 than you are just wasting your time.

[Asmodian]

Originally Posted by Magik Mark

Why is it madvr reports my display refresh rates as 23.970 and my source filter (LAV) reports it as 23.976? Is there a way to correct this?

I have never been able to tune an Nvidia GPU to exactly 23.97602, or even that close.. the steps when creating a custom resolution were about 0.004 Hz, if I remember correctly.

[chros]

Originally Posted by Sunset1982

I'll get my hands on a GTX 1070 and an AMD RX480 at the end of the week. I'll compare their madvr performance against each other an will post the results here.

Anyone got some wishes or suggestions you'd like me to test?

My priority will be upscaling 1080p to 4k...

Thanks for the offer!
1. It'd be nice to see the power consumption of these cards during playback. (You can get a cheap power consumption meter with LCD display (for about 10 euros) and plug it in its own socket and read/take a note the values during test.)
2. Regarding to the 1st point, it would be also nice that you can try out these kind of sources:
- 720p h.264
- 1080p h.264
- 1080p h.265
- 2060p h.264
- 2060p h.265

Thanks