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Old 14th May 2015, 22:40   #29981  |  Link
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88.7 works wonderful for me! I get no frame drops, even when I use Chroma Upscaling SuperRes Filter and also enable SuperRes in Image Refinement (High setting). Hell, I even enabled Octuple settings and everything is peachy! Shiandow's debanding and new setting (0.2 for threshold and 1 for detail level) are also better. I used to get obvious big shimmering squares (NOT dithering) on darker grays in Mid/Low-HQ content that were not present when only the original debanding was used. With 88.7 and new Shaindow's settings, those shimmering squares are now a lot smaller. Sometimes I think the original de-banding is still better, not as noisy.

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Old 14th May 2015, 22:46   #29982  |  Link
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I'm on NV (GTX 980, Win 10074, driver 350.12, x64).
Seems like 10 bit D3D11 FSE is working fine (tested in 10 bit mode with 8 and 10 bit video), but I have to enable frame for every sync to avoid massive presentation glitches. No tearing etc.
could be limited to the AMD WDDM 2.0 driver.
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Old 14th May 2015, 23:09   #29983  |  Link
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Stupid(?) question - When testing deband algos, we should check one or the other, correct? Leaving both checked is effectively using both algos simultaneously, or am I missing something?
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Old 14th May 2015, 23:24   #29984  |  Link
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madVR v0.88.7 released

* fixed: D3D11 render queue didn't fill in Windows 7
This version appears to have broken D3D11 entirely on my Win7 GTX770 system, or rather it never activates and madVR always uses D3D9. It works when I reset madVR to defaults though, so it must be something related to my settings/profiles, but so far I've not been able to figure out which causes it.

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Old 14th May 2015, 23:28   #29985  |  Link
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I have couple of questions.

Currently by your eyes if I have 970 GTX I have Philips 7007 3D it's 16-235. Should I use native display bitrate 8bit or 10bit ? I'm using the D3D11.

What should I choose for debanding Debanding Strength - medium / fade in/out high ? or to enable shaindow's deband threshold 0.5 detail level 2 ? I don't remember if that's the default

Should I use quadruple luma resolution ?

How come without the Settings.bin file in the folder Madvr keep my settings ? and after that it makes the file, how it remembers all my settings without the settings.bin ?

Those settings bothering me cause I can't be sure what's the best.

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Old 14th May 2015, 23:37   #29986  |  Link
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could be limited to the AMD WDDM 2.0 driver.
thanks.
Funny, I had the exactly same problem with the Nvidia WDDM 2.0 driver.
Edit: But this was not related to 10 bit, but to the D3D11 renderer in general.

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Old 14th May 2015, 23:38   #29987  |  Link
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Hi madshi. First I want to thank you for your hard work. I've been using madvr for a long time without any problem but the last few builds doesn't work well for me.
In the latest build (0.88.7) d3d11 is not enabled at all even if I check the option. The OSD shows always "(new path)" both in windowed mode and FSE.
In 0.88.6 the refresh rate fix doesn't work. With D3d9 FSE both 24p and 60p work but with d3d11 FSE only 60p works, 24p doesn't work yet.
Let me explain what happens: my monitor has a 23p with a blurred image and a timing of 23.970 so I created a 24p custom resolution with the exact timing of 23.976 and a clear image. When MPC enters in FSE the resolution is switched back to the blurred 23p even if I set my 24p in the nvidia control panel.
I'm using MPC-HC 1.7.8.162 x64, Lav 0.65-2 and Windows 8.1 x64. I have a gtx 660 with 350.12 and an intel q9550.
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Old 15th May 2015, 00:07   #29988  |  Link
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And because SuperRes includes anti-ringing, can I safely remove Anti-Ringing with Jinc if combined with SuperRes?
I'd like to know too, and what is "error upscaling quality"? It's either medium or high. Sorry if I'm asking about SuperRes too soon.
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Old 15th May 2015, 00:11   #29989  |  Link
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I'd like to know too, and what is "error upscaling quality"? It's either medium or high. Sorry if I'm asking about SuperRes too soon.
If you set it to high, rendering times go up considerably, so it is simply the quality setting.

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Old 15th May 2015, 00:45   #29990  |  Link
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If you set it to high, rendering times go up considerably, so it is simply the quality setting.
It probably changes the error upscale step from bilinear to something else, maybe Jinc3 based on the rendering times?
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Old 15th May 2015, 01:37   #29991  |  Link
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Funny, I had the exactly same problem with the Nvidia WDDM 2.0 driver.
Edit: But this was not related to 10 bit, but to the D3D11 renderer in general.
i could get problem with windowed D3D11 too. but 10 bit was on a whole different level. and 88.6 worked pretty good after some tweaks.

but i come back to this when windows 10 is "final".
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Old 15th May 2015, 01:41   #29992  |  Link
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hmm,

i just tested teh new version. so far so good, enjoying teh new settings.
i only have 2 problems..

1. the artefacts are back when using nnedi3, both, in chroma upscaling and image doubling.
It was fine with v0.87.21. (was about kepler gtx670 , win 764bit and 32bit..)

2. when using d3d11 mode in FSE/windowed my monitor resolution resets and stuff is cut off..it changes my desktop resolution also and changes teh hz form 60 to 25...
with the normal d3d9 (new path) mode it works fine doh, all 60 hz...

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Old 15th May 2015, 02:08   #29993  |  Link
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i amusign windows 8 with gtx 690 nvidia driver 347.88 when i tried to install madvr 88.7 as usually right click and run as administrator to install.bat nothing happens. Just blank command screen. when i hit enter it says you have to right click to install bat and run as administrator. but i already did that. version 87.21 run with no problem no problems. how can i install 88.7 thank you. sorry for my bad english
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Old 15th May 2015, 02:08   #29994  |  Link
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It seems Direct3D11 FSE stopped showing an image during playback for me in this release. Direct3D11 FS Windowed works as well as all modes of Direct 3D9. Direct3D11 FSE was working fine in the previous release.
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Old 15th May 2015, 02:13   #29995  |  Link
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I don't think DX11 is working for me after updating to 88.7.

FSE mode says "fullscreen exclusive mode new path" instead of FSE 10 bit.

Going back to 88.5 with same settings fixed issue.

I'm on Windows 7 x64, GTX 780, x64 MPC HC.

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Old 15th May 2015, 03:14   #29996  |  Link
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Now I see that "Upscaling Refinement" had to be added to the profile group at the time it was created. Is there a way to add it to existing profile groups without having to delete all existing profiles and restarting all configuration from scratch?

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Old 15th May 2015, 03:15   #29997  |  Link
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This version appears to have broken D3D11 entirely on my Win7 GTX770 system, or rather it never activates and madVR always uses D3D9. It works when I reset madVR to defaults though, so it must be something related to my settings/profiles, but so far I've not been able to figure out which causes it.
I would like to check this myself if D3D11 is being used on Win7 but I don't know how. When I press Cntl+J I don't see any OSD for that?
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Old 15th May 2015, 03:17   #29998  |  Link
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I am really appreciating all of the tweaks that madVR offers, but my GTX970 is struggling with 4K upscaling of 1080p BD content. I am now considering a Titan X, but the compute performance concerns me. Should I be looking at AMD cards? I need something quiet and powerful enough to crank up madVR options with 4K upscaling. Suggestions?
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I am having no trouble with 0.88.7 (32-bit) using D3D11. GK110 (Titan), Win 8.1 x64, 350.12

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Now I see that "Upscaling Refinement" had to be added to the profile group at the time it was created. Is there a way to add it to existing profile groups without having to delete all existing profiles and restarting all configuration from scratch?
No, copy your profile rules to a text file first is best you can do.

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I would like to check this myself if D3D11 is being used on Win7 but I don't know how. When I press Cntl+J I don't see any OSD for that?
If the line "fullscreen exclusive mode" has a bit depth after it you are using D3D11. If you are in a windowed mode it will say [D3D11] after it.

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I am really appreciating all of the tweaks that madVR offers, but my GTX970 is struggling with 4K upscaling of 1080p BD content. I am now considering a Titan X, but the compute performance concerns me. Should I be looking at AMD cards? I need something quiet and powerful enough to crank up madVR options with 4K upscaling. Suggestions?
AMD still has interop issues which slow them down so I don't think AMD is a better option for NNEDI3 image doubling. I think a Titan X is your only upgrade option right now but the 980 Ti and 390X might be released pretty soon, if you can wait a month or two.

I am also pretty sure you could find some settings that look great and still run fine on a 970.
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Thanks Asmodian. I am happy with the settings I am using, but knowing I can do more with a more powerful card is killing me. I am using a Sony VW600ES 4K projector to a 110" screen so every bit of improvement is noticeable. I will most likely go with the Titan X, but wanted to see if there was anything else out there to consider. Guess not.

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