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23rd February 2013, 09:01 | #17681 | Link |
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With 0.86.0 I'm still have a blank screen with DXVA (decoding and image scaling) after changing from window to FSE modes. The workaround is: start playback - pause (fast) - switching to FSE - unpause.
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FRC does not reduce judder that is in the source. It "only" simulates a display which can display 24Hz natively. If a proper 24Hz display shows judder with a specific 24fps movie, then so will madVR's FRC. Quote:
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23rd February 2013, 10:01 | #17683 | Link | |
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With your general FRC approach the blended frames are generated at irregular points in time, right? Wouldn't it be beneficial to have a fixed pattern like e.g. repetition, blend, repetition, blend, ... at least when using ReClock? |
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23rd February 2013, 11:05 | #17684 | Link | ||
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I noticed that display mode changer still changes to 59.94Hz for 23.976fps videos even though FRC is set to be always enabled. Wouldn't it make sense to change its logic that it doesn't change resolution with FRC? Uhm, what about FRC for e.g. 60fps@60Hz? Is there much blur to be expected? Otherwise it'd like to get rid of Reclock. Edit: Ah, found the answer in your first post of 0.86. Btw: I've tested a 3 minutes 60fps video, no frame drops. Last edited by aufkrawall; 23rd February 2013 at 22:20. |
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23rd February 2013, 15:05 | #17687 | Link | |
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23rd February 2013, 15:16 | #17688 | Link |
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Is it possible to run the SmoothMotion madTestPatternSource at a user specified fps?
I tried just renaming one to SmoothMotion120.ytp as a test and it defaulted to 23p. The other thing I was wondering, I ran 24p side by side with 60p in another player because I wanted to explain to someone the difference between having more source images vs smoothness etc... But to my surprise the bars were not scrolling at the same speed. I'm guessing this was intentional/side effect of the implementation. It's probably not an easy switch, especially if you would have to generate different source material. But I might be helpful to have the different SmoothMotion test patterns moving at the same overall speed? And thank you for such a great piece of software. I'm slowly converting people around me to madVR. The FRC option will make it even easier for people to have smooth playback with minimal effort. Last edited by druneau; 23rd February 2013 at 15:22. |
23rd February 2013, 15:53 | #17689 | Link |
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Madshi is xy-vsfilter work still in progress for high def subs? Also is some form of motion compensation on the cards for the future? I'd like to see motion compensation with some form of control element to it (My TV's is one setting only and it's horrid).
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23rd February 2013, 17:45 | #17690 | Link | |
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Using "use a separate device for presentation", my render queue seems to get stuck on 0-3/8, and I get dropped frames all the time. If I pause the video, it goes to 0-8 / 8, but it quickly drops to 0-3 / 8 on playback. Now, without "use a separate device for presentation", something very weird happens. The render queue stays on 5-6/8 on playback, but if I pause the video, click on Edit Settings on madVR preferences, click Ok without changing anything, and unpause the video...the render queue gets stuck on 0-3 / 8. If I just open the madVR preferences dialog and close it without clicking on Edit Settings, I don't have this issue. Edit: Hm, the render queue does seem to get stuck on 0-3 after a while, even if I don't open the Edit Settings dialog. Opening it is however a sure way to trigger this. On madVR 0.86, I don't have this issues, just out of order frames with "use a separate device for presentation" turned on and the present queue randomly going to zero when it is off. Edit 2: Setting my flush settings to Flush/Don't/Don't/Don't and disabling "use separated device for presentation" seems to solve my issue on 0.86.1. Last edited by shimaflarex; 23rd February 2013 at 19:01. |
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23rd February 2013, 18:14 | #17691 | Link | |
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With 0.86.0 I did not get any dropped frames, not even with the 50Hz test file. So something changed for the worse with 0.86.1 |
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23rd February 2013, 18:26 | #17692 | Link | |
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btw. thanks madshi... I usually use reclock to clock to 24fps and then set my VT50 to 24Hz... but the VT50 sometimes has a bit of flicker at 24Hz and I always hated the few seconds the panel needed to change the refesh rate... especially if I just want to open a video to check something... It got really annoying... now I simply leave it at 60Hz and turn on FRC... Last edited by Q-the-STORM; 23rd February 2013 at 18:33. |
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23rd February 2013, 20:08 | #17694 | Link |
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Been testing a few things. 23.976fps with smooth motion forced on at 24Hz causes a ghosting effect kind of like interlacing. 23.976fps at 60Hz causes flickering. You can especially notice it on scrolling end credits. Looks like it's no good for me and I may as well stick with 24Hz smooth motion off for now.
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23rd February 2013, 20:33 | #17695 | Link |
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If I rapidly seek through the file with the right arrow button then madVR still freezes in exclusive mode but when it goes back to windowed mode it plays like normal. At that point if I try to fullscreen it back to exclusive mode I get a black screen and have to restart the file in order to use exclusive mode. This is with v0.86.1.
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23rd February 2013, 21:18 | #17699 | Link | |
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1) Have I need "smooth motion" frame rate changer (FRC) if I have 23.976fps movie with a 120hz display monitor? What are the best options in smooth motion? 2) If I have reclock, is it still necessary with smooth motion to avoid frame drops/repeats? 3) what is the best option with 120hz and 23.976fps movie? ............. a) only if there would be motion judder without it ........... b) or if the display ..... the movie frame rate .......... c) always 4) in trade quality for performance, I have "don't use linear light for smooth motion frame blending" turn on by default, Must I turn off or not? (I have 570) 5) If I use 3:2 inverse telecine filter like decomb, smooth motion is it compatible or not? 6) If I turn on smooth motion, in windows mode I have 48fps instead of 24 fps in movie (using fraps), is it normal? Smooth motion would double framerate? Why? edit: I try and with movie, I have some glitch with smooth motion option. Last edited by ikarad; 23rd February 2013 at 22:46. |
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23rd February 2013, 21:49 | #17700 | Link | |
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It does. But I think he means that he switched his HTPC to 24Hz and had his VT50 set to 96Hz, but now he just uses 60Hz with FRC on. Even though my ST50 doesn't have a 96Hz option, it does accept 24p... I also used to switch to 24Hz, but now I just leave it at 60Hz with FRC on.
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direct compute, dithering, error diffusion, madvr, ngu, nnedi3, quality, renderer, scaling, uhd upscaling, upsampling |
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