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Old 4th April 2012, 17:59   #361  |  Link
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Interframe 2, with GPU=true and algo=21 I have artefacts on the left and right edge of the footage. It looks like some grey mask.
This is just on some scenes, others are fine.

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Old 4th April 2012, 18:00   #362  |  Link
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For some reason, even with the latest version, GPU=false doesn't work very well. My frame counter just stops moving, indicating that processing has stopped.

Also, I just upgraded from a GTX 460 to a Radeon 7850 and it seems slower now. Now SVP perform better on nvidia hardware? Thanks.
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Old 4th April 2012, 21:13   #363  |  Link
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I just upgraded from a GTX 460 to a Radeon 7850 and it seems slower now.
What's the absolute FPS value? To see some difference between 450 and 460 it should be far more than 120 fps, and 7850 is definitely faster. Please post your results with 7850 to SVPmark database, it'll be interesting. It can be anything, for example 69xx cards just hung the whole system with OpenCL+D3D until 11.6 or 11.7 (?) drivers.
But it's obviously an offtopic in Interframe thread

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with GPU=true and algo=21 I have artefacts on the left and right edge of the footage. It looks like some grey mask.
What if crop the source by several pixels on all sides? But anyway it's some kind of a bug, I think I know what're you talking about.

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Old 4th April 2012, 21:32   #364  |  Link
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Can try cropping (it's 1920x1080 source with clean/normal edges)- it only happens with GPU=true. CPU mode does not have such a problem. I can try other algos, but I think it's only problem with algo=21 (it's definitely not happening with algo=13).
For my source (very fast motion) algo=21 with lambda=20 and plevel=1 produces well balanced output- clean edges with not much halos.

plevel<1 seams to affect motion a lot- not smooth output.

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Old 4th April 2012, 21:49   #365  |  Link
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Interframe 2, with GPU=true and algo=21 I have artefacts on the left and right edge of the footage. It looks like some grey mask.
This is just on some scenes, others are fine.
I think I noticed the same thing on one video last night too
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Old 4th April 2012, 21:50   #366  |  Link
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Please post a screenshot with these arts. But two adjacent source frames will be much helpful
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Old 4th April 2012, 22:12   #367  |  Link
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Simulated look:



I don't have this source on my laptop, but it looks like this.
Both sides will have this sort of grey mask- it will change size, shape a bit over many frames, but always look like this example. It will be few pixels deep and bit more grey than the one on the picture. I can post exact frame tomorrow.
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Old 4th April 2012, 22:46   #368  |  Link
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Ah yeah that's different from what I meant. It looks like your source might have a light left border. Will wait to see it
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Old 4th April 2012, 23:00   #369  |  Link
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I will post tomorrow grabs from this problematic source.
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Old 5th April 2012, 05:57   #370  |  Link
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What's the absolute FPS value? To see some difference between 450 and 460 it should be far more than 120 fps, and 7850 is definitely faster. Please post your results with 7850 to SVPmark database, it'll be interesting. It can be anything, for example 69xx cards just hung the whole system with OpenCL+D3D until 11.6 or 11.7 (?) drivers.
But it's obviously an offtopic in Interframe thread
Apologies, I actually meant to say Interframe but I wrote SVP since I figured that it is what is responsible for making use of the GPU in Interframe.

On my GTX 460, I used to be able to process 2 720p videos concurrently at around 12fps each. On my current Radeon 7850, I get around 6.8fps. Imagine my disappointment since I bought this Radeon 7850 partly because I thought it will enable Interframe to run faster, and cut down on my electricity costs at the same time.

However I know from my experience with Bitcoin mining that OpenCL code can perform differently on different GPUs, even if one GPU is faster than the other on paper.

Anyway, here's the scores from SVPMark:

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Test summary
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  Date: 2012-04-05T12:54:31
  CPU:  Intel Core i7-2600K @3392 MHz [8 threads]
  GPU:  AMD/ATI Radeon HD 7800 [ver.1.4.1703]
  Mode: FHD + GPU [17 threads]
  Comment: 3.6

Overall scores
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  Synthetic CPU:                  MC2030
  Synthetic GPU:                  MG3530
  Real-life:                      FG2743

Details: synthetic
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  CPU: compose (single-threaded): 553
  CPU: compose (multi-threaded):  2391
  CPU: search (single-threaded):  415
  CPU: search (multi-threaded):   1765
  GPU: system -> GPU transfer:    555
  GPU: GPU -> system transfer:    1310
  GPU: calculations:              1636
  GPU: total score:               4772

Details: real-life /FHD
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  decode video:                   16.14x (387.4 fps)
  48 fps - vectors search:        1.31x (62.7 fps)
  60 fps - frame composition:     3.54x (212.2 fps)
  48 fps - [SVP] fastest:         6.30x (302.5 fps)
  48 fps - [SVP] simple 1:        4.53x (217.3 fps)
  60 fps - [SVP] good:            2.34x (140.2 fps)
  60 fps - [SVP] high:            1.83x (109.9 fps)
  60 fps - [SVP] highest:         0.83x (50.0 fps)
  72 fps - [SVP] simple 2:        4.20x (302.1 fps)
Edit: I took a look at your SVPMark database and you guys don't have any Radeon 7800 series cards in there. Guess I'm the first one

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here's the scores from SVPMark
GPU scores are too low, at least "system -> GPU transfer" value, may be it's a drivers bug.
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I can't add your results to DB by hands
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Ah yeah that's different from what I meant. It looks like your source might have a light left border. Will wait to see it
Here it's:



Source has some thin grayish border (and I said it has clean edges-ups), so I assume this causes the problem.

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GPU scores are too low, at least "system -> GPU transfer" value, may be it's a drivers bug.

I can't add your results to DB by hands
Indeed I noticed that too.

I registered an account with SVP just now but SVPMark returned authentication wrong. It returns correct now, and I will upload scores once my current encoding job is finished.
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Source has some thin grayish border (and I said it has clean edges-ups), so I assume this causes the problem.
Yep Avatar remux also have 2px black borders for some reason
And I don't know what I could do with it if I've got real motion vector points outside the frame.
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Why is it fine with algo=13 (and in CPU only mode)?
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In CPU mode vectors're brutally clipped at the blocks level.

I think algo=11 should give the same artifact, algo=13 could "mask" it with median function (but I need to check).
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Yep, algo=11 same problem.
It's actually also on algo=13, but way less visible. I'm was so focus on the main frame that never noticed borders- hehe
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GPU scores are too low, at least "system -> GPU transfer" value, may be it's a drivers bug.

I can't add your results to DB by hands
I hope it's not the standard low copy back performance that goes on in the next generation as well though @ the time i read AMDs dev forums there where some special parts their about improving memory copy performance PCIE-E transfer speed code wise with their SDK especialy in the Compute section you find people their naging about the copy performance .
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When I try to convert 1920x1080, 23.976fps footage I get an error from MS Visual C++ runtime Library:
Runtime Error!
Program C:\Program Files (x86)\MeGUI\tools\x264\avs4x264mod.exe

1280x720, 30fps works just fine.

Any ideas?
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1. Patch .exe with that tool, AND/OR
2.1. Lower value in SetMemoryMax() call, OR
2.2. Use modified Avisynth 2.5.8 build from SVP

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I hope it's not the standard low copy back performance
It doesn't matter cause I'm not writing GPU benchmark

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On my GTX 460, I used to be able to process 2 720p videos concurrently at around 12fps each. On my current Radeon 7850, I get around 6.8fps.
I'm sure the problem is in something else. Two 720p is like one 1080p and even with the highest possible rendering settings any video card >=5770 can render >100 FHD frames per second.

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