madVR - high quality video renderer (GPU assisted) - Page 520

whitestar999 · 23rd October 2011, 21:59

were you ever able to run madvr successfully on your system?if yes then try to think what did you change in your system recently i.e.driver update,antivirus upgrade etc.

jovovick · 24th October 2011, 03:59

having some issue with Nvidia GT 550M with Optimus.

when used with MPC-HC v1.5.2.3456 or PotPlayer v1.5.29917, after a while video will freeze but audio continue.

When used with intergrated Intel HD 3000, playback is error free.

Any way I can troubleshoot ?

davidsama · 24th October 2011, 04:28

Try using MPC-HC 1.5.3.3792 and see if that helps with anything

Peuj · 24th October 2011, 09:52

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Originally Posted by davidsama

Peuj have you considered that maybe your video card has gone bad and that you might need to buy a new video card or that you might have to reformat and restore your pc to get rid of your problem(s)

No of course I didn't consider this.

I'll wait for madshi's reply before to consider the worst (for me).

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Originally Posted by whitestar999

were you ever able to run madvr successfully on your system?if yes then try to think what did you change in your system recently i.e.driver update,antivirus upgrade etc.

Yes it worked before and honestly most of the times I don't see the dropped frames so it's difficult to identify an external cause.

whitestar999 · 24th October 2011, 10:49

try with your AV exited(preferred) or if that's not possible disabled.

Peuj · 24th October 2011, 12:44

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Originally Posted by whitestar999

try with your AV exited(preferred) or if that's not possible disabled.

Nothing changed.

kalston · 24th October 2011, 13:39

Did anyone get the chance to try the new nvidia WHQL drivers (285.62) with madvr?

I'm not at home this week so I'm curious to know if anything changed regarding the glitches.

SamuriHL · 24th October 2011, 13:55

It's unlikely to change the situation. I've been using the beta. I'm going to install them tonight but I don't really expect anything to change with regard to the glitches.

kalston · 24th October 2011, 14:27

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Originally Posted by SamuriHL

It's unlikely to change the situation. I've been using the beta. I'm going to install them tonight but I don't really expect anything to change with regard to the glitches.

I'm afraid so, just a fool's hope at this point I guess

SamuriHL · 24th October 2011, 14:49

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Originally Posted by kalston

I'm afraid so, just a fool's hope at this point I guess

Hope isn't a bad thing. It'd be nice if they surprised us and fixed it all. Unlikely, but, hey, it's not impossible.

6233638 · 24th October 2011, 14:58

It really is a shame to have gone from flawless playback on my old E5200/Nvidia 9400 system (Bilinear pre-exclusive mode, then Bicubic 75 Chroma, SoftCubic 70 up/Lanczos 3 down with Exclusive) to having glitches on a system that's probably at least an order of magnitude more powerful.

I don't think it's Madshi's fault at all though. I had the presentation glitches (where it dropped the present queue to 0 after a few minutes) as soon as I switched to the new system with the GTX 570, they were fixed with the "limit rendering times" option, and now they have returned to a lesser degree with the latest Nvidia drivers.

nevcairiel · 24th October 2011, 15:07

The glitches never were a problem on the old exclusive mode, and everything was running perfectly fine as well. People also reported that going back to it solves their problem (in the case when glitches are actually visible).
So maybe its also doing something that is not "normal" for a "game" to do? I just don't like jumping to conclusions based on external observations on two closed components.

Anyhow, there are several ways to fix them, if the shortcomings of D3D11 don't bother you, its probably the easiest, or if they do, i posted my settings quite often over the last pages, and so far the feedback has been nothing but excellent.

In case anyone is still looking, here is the post with my settings again (everything not mentioned on its default mode)
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...93#post1530093

kalston · 24th October 2011, 15:50

Yeah, I'm actually using the old exclusive mode because I don't notice anything wrong with it.

Be it with dx11 or your settings I still sometimes get glitches (and noticeable ones). Dx11 is pretty annoying (well, if I was getting smooth playback and didn't have to exit fullscreen to change the settings I wouldn't mind) and your settings can more or less work if I mess around with the flush settings.

6233638 · 24th October 2011, 16:06

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Originally Posted by nevcairiel

The glitches never were a problem on the old exclusive mode, and everything was running perfectly fine as well. People also reported that going back to it solves their problem (in the case when glitches are actually visible).

Unfortunately what happened for me is that the old exclusive mode worked for multiples (25@50, 30@60) but not matched framerates/resolutions. (24@24) The new path worked for matched, but not multiples.

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Originally Posted by nevcairiel

Anyhow, there are several ways to fix them, if the shortcomings of D3D11 don't bother you, its probably the easiest, or if they do, i posted my settings quite often over the last pages, and so far the feedback has been nothing but excellent.

I don't know if it's something introduced with newer versions of madVR (I don't think so) or newer Nvidia drivers, but none of the old fixes work 100% for me now. I still get glitches with the D3D11 fixes now, and have tried your settings which are even worse for me. (presentation queue never goes above 0-1 and always has glitches)

It does seem that Nvidia beta drivers have traditionally been worse than WHQL certified ones for this, but right now I don't have any option but to run the beta drivers. (which have fixes for Rage)

Hopefully it won't be too long until we see another WHQL release, and hopefully that will let me have glitch-free playback again.

SamuriHL · 24th October 2011, 16:14

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Originally Posted by 6233638

Hopefully it won't be too long until we see another WHQL release, and hopefully that will let me have glitch-free playback again.

Like, say, this morning?

Yea, they just released the WHQL driver this morning so you may want to try it. I'm going to install it on my machine tonight.

6233638 · 24th October 2011, 16:39

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Originally Posted by SamuriHL

Like, say, this morning?

Yea, they just released the WHQL driver this morning so you may want to try it. I'm going to install it on my machine tonight.

Talk about strange timing. I actually checked the website while typing out that post to see how frequent WHQL releases were (roughly every two months) and it wasn't there.

jmelan · 24th October 2011, 17:17

nevcairiel, thanks for the settings, was able to eliminate "presentation glitches" on my gt430 (oc to 800/1600/735), using nvidia driver 280.26

i am using mpc-hc/lav splitter source/lav video with CUVID/madVR sent out to both an HK avr354 and sony 3D LCD

my only remaining problem is choppy playback with 24p source files sent to my display at 60Hz, which play problem free with EVR on mpc hc.

**with nvidia's current drivers, i am unable to both enable 3D and use 24p for 2D video (setting the 1080p23 option in madVR triggers HDMI 1.4 frame packing mode). If I disable 3D, then video playback is smooth at 24p. switching 3D mode back and forth via the nvidia control panel does not provide for a very good WAF, although that it my current method.

kennae · 24th October 2011, 17:19

New nVidia WHQL drivers are up! Working great with mpc-hc + lav filters + madvr.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7-wi...ql-driver.html

SamuriHL · 24th October 2011, 17:19

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Originally Posted by 6233638

Talk about strange timing. I actually checked the website while typing out that post to see how frequent WHQL releases were (roughly every two months) and it wasn't there.

HAHAHA. That's always the way. I only knew cause the nVidia thread on AVS Forum was updated with the links this morning.

Nicola · 24th October 2011, 17:21

mmm, I hope DX11 won't be the "solve all" route... since lot of ppl are still using xp, like me, and don't plan to switch to 7 soon, at least for multimedia stuff.
after all, exclusive mode still works here... just my gpu doesn't cut it with better resizing...

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SamuriHL Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 5,351	It's unlikely to change the situation. I've been using the beta. I'm going to install them tonight but I don't really expect anything to change with regard to the glitches. __________________ HTPC: Windows 11, AMD 5900X, RTX 3080, Pioneer Elite VSX-LX303, LG G2 77" OLED

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nevcairiel Registered Developer Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Hamburg/Germany Posts: 10,348	The glitches never were a problem on the old exclusive mode, and everything was running perfectly fine as well. People also reported that going back to it solves their problem (in the case when glitches are actually visible). So maybe its also doing something that is not "normal" for a "game" to do? I just don't like jumping to conclusions based on external observations on two closed components. Anyhow, there are several ways to fix them, if the shortcomings of D3D11 don't bother you, its probably the easiest, or if they do, i posted my settings quite often over the last pages, and so far the feedback has been nothing but excellent. In case anyone is still looking, here is the post with my settings again (everything not mentioned on its default mode) http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...93#post1530093 __________________ LAV Filters - open source ffmpeg based media splitter and decoders Last edited by nevcairiel; 24th October 2011 at 15:14.

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jmelan Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 18	nevcairiel, thanks for the settings, was able to eliminate "presentation glitches" on my gt430 (oc to 800/1600/735), using nvidia driver 280.26 i am using mpc-hc/lav splitter source/lav video with CUVID/madVR sent out to both an HK avr354 and sony 3D LCD my only remaining problem is choppy playback with 24p source files sent to my display at 60Hz, which play problem free with EVR on mpc hc. *with nvidia's current drivers, i am unable to both enable 3D and use 24p for 2D video (setting the 1080p23 option in madVR triggers HDMI 1.4 frame packing mode). If I disable 3D, then video playback is smooth at 24p. switching 3D mode back and forth via the nvidia control panel does not provide for a very good WAF, although that it my current method. Last edited by jmelan; 24th October 2011 at 17:22.*

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whitestar999 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 48	were you ever able to run madvr successfully on your system?if yes then try to think what did you change in your system recently i.e.driver update,antivirus upgrade etc.

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jovovick Registered User Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 3	having some issue with Nvidia GT 550M with Optimus. when used with MPC-HC v1.5.2.3456 or PotPlayer v1.5.29917, after a while video will freeze but audio continue. When used with intergrated Intel HD 3000, playback is error free. Any way I can troubleshoot ?

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davidsama Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 38	Try using MPC-HC 1.5.3.3792 and see if that helps with anything

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whitestar999 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 48	try with your AV exited(preferred) or if that's not possible disabled.

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kalston Registered User Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 164	Did anyone get the chance to try the new nvidia WHQL drivers (285.62) with madvr? I'm not at home this week so I'm curious to know if anything changed regarding the glitches.

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6233638 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,019	It really is a shame to have gone from flawless playback on my old E5200/Nvidia 9400 system (Bilinear pre-exclusive mode, then Bicubic 75 Chroma, SoftCubic 70 up/Lanczos 3 down with Exclusive) to having glitches on a system that's probably at least an order of magnitude more powerful. I don't think it's Madshi's fault at all though. I had the presentation glitches (where it dropped the present queue to 0 after a few minutes) as soon as I switched to the new system with the GTX 570, they were fixed with the "limit rendering times" option, and now they have returned to a lesser degree with the latest Nvidia drivers.

24th October 2011, 15:50	#10393 \| Link
kalston Registered User Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 164	Yeah, I'm actually using the old exclusive mode because I don't notice anything wrong with it. Be it with dx11 or your settings I still sometimes get glitches (and noticeable ones). Dx11 is pretty annoying (well, if I was getting smooth playback and didn't have to exit fullscreen to change the settings I wouldn't mind) and your settings can more or less work if I mess around with the flush settings.

24th October 2011, 17:19	#10398 \| Link
kennae Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 35	New nVidia WHQL drivers are up! Working great with mpc-hc + lav filters + madvr. http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7-wi...ql-driver.html

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Nicola Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 29	mmm, I hope DX11 won't be the "solve all" route... since lot of ppl are still using xp, like me, and don't plan to switch to 7 soon, at least for multimedia stuff. after all, exclusive mode still works here... just my gpu doesn't cut it with better resizing...