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Old 12th December 2010, 12:41   #801  |  Link
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Unfortunately I'm noticing that many DVD titles
there are subforced integrated into the main stream that is not possible to extrapolate, so we need to do it manually.

Currently, proceed as follows:

1 - Load the stream with BDSup2Sub, then open simultaneously DVDSubEdit, using it as monitor, with the cursor and scan the entire movie looking for subForced.

2 - Once found, it must mark them with a flag in BDSup2Sub, then save the entire stream.

3 - Open the stream with BDSup2Sub "flagged" at this stage there is indicated the presence of forced, we will have to export as I said in the guide.

There is no other better way to do this?

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Old 6th January 2011, 17:11   #802  |  Link
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Bad subtitle stream 'The girl with the dragon tattoo'

As it says: Reading the subtitle file (there is only one on the BD) bdsup2sub issues an error messages:

Loading W:\BDCLown\The girl with the dragon tatto\Subtitles_5_Undetermined.sup
#> 1 (00:02:21.808)
#> 2 (-3:-13:-5.-180)
#> 3 (-3:-12:-23.-763)
#> 4 (-3:-12:-19.-551)
WARNING: multiple PDS/ODS definitions: result may be erratic
#< 5 (-3:-12:-14.0-4)
#> 6 (-3:-12:-11.-84)
#> 7 (-3:-12:-6.-997)
#> 8 (-3:-12:-1.-741)
WARNING: multiple PDS/ODS definitions: result may be erratic
#< 9 (-3:-11:-58.-947)
#> 10 (-3:-11:-54.-734)
#> 11 (-3:-11:-50.-730)
WARNING: multiple PDS/ODS definitions: result may be erratic
#< 12 (-3:-11:-47.-978)
#> 13 (-3:-11:-45.-266)
#> 14 (-3:-11:-38.-969)
#> 15 (-3:-11:-35.-882)
#> 16 (-3:-11:-29.-501)
#> 17 (-3:-11:-25.-413)
#> 18 (-3:-11:-13.-109)
#> 19 (-3:-11:-9.-940)
#> 20 (-3:-11:-2.-641)
#> 21 (-3:-10:-59.-387)
#> 22 (-3:-10:-56.0-9)
#> 23 (-3:-10:-52.-923)
#> 24 (-3:-10:-47.-459)
#> 25 (-3:-10:-43.-371)
#> 26 (-3:-10:-39.-868)
#> 27 (-3:-10:-35.-906)
#> 28 (-3:-10:-32.-694)
#> 29 (-3:-10:-27.-439)
#> 30 (-3:-10:-23.-894)
#> 31 (-3:-10:-19.-97)
#> 32 (-3:-10:-16.-219)
#> 33 (-3:-10:-11.-506)
#> 34 (-3:-10:-2.-622)
#> 35 (-3:-9:-55.-574)
#> 36 (-3:-9:-52.-904)
#> 37 (-3:-9:-49.-25)
etc ....

The subtitle display correctly in the application. Exporting them doesn't seem to create error messages but when I try to multiplex the result matroska tells me there is something wrong with the format.

Would you like the file and have a look at it?
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Old 6th January 2011, 21:01   #803  |  Link
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There is no other better way to do this?
Sure there is. In DVDSubedit, simply tick "Forced subs only"...
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Old 28th January 2011, 00:19   #804  |  Link
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Hi, when I load a sup file I get an indexoutofbounds exception.

Process:
Avatar BD, converted to MKV using MakeMKV.
MakeMKV included normal and forced subs streams.
Extract SUP file from MKV using eac3to and HdBrStreamExtractor.

I can open the normal sup file ok.
When I open the forced subs sup file I get the crash.

Sample file is here:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2182768/1_5_subtitle.sup

Is this a problem with MakeMKV, or a bug?

P.
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Old 4th February 2011, 04:17   #805  |  Link
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I'm seeing the same thing.
AVATAR BRD-> MKV via MakeMKV
Extract subs using mkvextract (from mkvtoolnix)
The full sub set work (IE: the regular dialog and descriptive text)
The other track, which is just the na'avi, causes a thrown exception.
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Old 10th February 2011, 00:08   #806  |  Link
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As it says: Reading the subtitle file (there is only one on the BD) bdsup2sub issues an error messages:

Loading W:\BDCLown\The girl with the dragon tatto\Subtitles_5_Undetermined.sup
#> 1 (00:02:21.808)
#> 2 (-3:-13:-5.-180)
#> 3 (-3:-12:-23.-763)
#> 4 (-3:-12:-19.-551)
WARNING: multiple PDS/ODS definitions: result may be erratic
#< 5 (-3:-12:-14.0-4)
#> 6 (-3:-12:-11.-84)
#> 7 (-3:-12:-6.-997)
#> 8 (-3:-12:-1.-741)
WARNING: multiple PDS/ODS definitions: result may be erratic
#< 9 (-3:-11:-58.-947)
#> 10 (-3:-11:-54.-734)
#> 11 (-3:-11:-50.-730)
WARNING: multiple PDS/ODS definitions: result may be erratic
#< 12 (-3:-11:-47.-978)
#> 13 (-3:-11:-45.-266)
#> 14 (-3:-11:-38.-969)
#> 15 (-3:-11:-35.-882)
#> 16 (-3:-11:-29.-501)
#> 17 (-3:-11:-25.-413)
#> 18 (-3:-11:-13.-109)
#> 19 (-3:-11:-9.-940)
#> 20 (-3:-11:-2.-641)
#> 21 (-3:-10:-59.-387)
#> 22 (-3:-10:-56.0-9)
#> 23 (-3:-10:-52.-923)
#> 24 (-3:-10:-47.-459)
#> 25 (-3:-10:-43.-371)
#> 26 (-3:-10:-39.-868)
#> 27 (-3:-10:-35.-906)
#> 28 (-3:-10:-32.-694)
#> 29 (-3:-10:-27.-439)
#> 30 (-3:-10:-23.-894)
#> 31 (-3:-10:-19.-97)
#> 32 (-3:-10:-16.-219)
#> 33 (-3:-10:-11.-506)
#> 34 (-3:-10:-2.-622)
#> 35 (-3:-9:-55.-574)
#> 36 (-3:-9:-52.-904)
#> 37 (-3:-9:-49.-25)
etc ....

The subtitle display correctly in the application. Exporting them doesn't seem to create error messages but when I try to multiplex the result matroska tells me there is something wrong with the format.

Would you like the file and have a look at it?
Interestingly, the same problem exists for "The Girl Who played with Fire". I demuxed using EAC3TO [CLI] and used the subtitle SUP stream produced.

Loading W:\GIRL WHO PLAYED WITH FIRE\00001 - 5 - Subtitle (PGS), 838 captions.sup
#> 1 (00:01:06.733)
#> 2 (-3:-14:-15.-959)
#> 3 (-3:-14:-12.-330)
#> 4 (-3:-14:-6.-741)
#> 5 (-3:-14:-3.-613)
#> 6 (-3:-13:-58.-942)
#> 7 (-3:-12:-54.-711)
<snipped>
#> 168 (-2:-50:-43.-840)
#> 169 (-2:-50:-41.-713)
#> 170 (-2:-50:-37.-41)
#> 171 (-2:-50:-30.-910)
#> 172 (-2:-50:-26.-30)
WARNING: multiple PDS/ODS definitions: result may be erratic
#< 173 (-2:-50:-21.-776)
#< 174 (-2:-50:-16.-979)
#> 175 (-2:-50:-12.-433)
#> 176 (-2:-50:-8.-805)
<snipped>
#> 231 (-2:-43:-35.-287)
#> 232 (-2:-43:-30.-490)
#> 233 (-2:-43:-26.-278)
WARNING: multiple PDS/ODS definitions: result may be erratic
#< 234 (-2:-43:-24.-25)
#> 235 (-2:-43:-19.-20)
#> 236 (-2:-43:-11.-221)
#> 237 (-2:-43:-5.-799)
#> 238 (-2:-42:-59.-167)
#> 239 (-2:-42:-54.-996)
<snipped>
#> 290 (-2:-36:-46.-44)
#> 291 (-2:-36:-30.-654)
#> 292 (-2:-36:-25.-148)
WARNING: multiple PDS/ODS definitions: result may be erratic
#< 293 (-2:-36:-22.-771)
#> 294 (-2:-36:-15.-514)
#> 295 (-2:-36:-12.-886)
#> 296 (-2:-36:-10.0-8)
<snipped>
#> 835 (-1:-11:-56.-293)
#> 836 (-1:-11:-52.-289)
#> 837 (-1:-11:-42.-780)
#> 838 (-1:-11:-24.-720)

Detected 0 forced captions.
WARNING: end time of frame 1 < start time -> fixed
WARNING: duration of frame 1 is shorter than 500.5ms
WARNING: start time of frame 2 < end of last frame -> fixed
Decoding frame 1/838 at offset 0x00000559

No problem with display but the subtitle stream is useless to hardcode into a 720p recode for streaming via a MKV container.

Ideas on resolving are certainly welcomed, since this and Dragon Tattoo are subtitled movies I regularly watch.

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Old 12th February 2011, 16:45   #807  |  Link
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Solved "Dragon Tattoo" and "Played with Fire" Subtitles

Using the current version of EAC3TO [3.24] produces a faulty demux to .sup for both "Girl with Dragon Tattoo" and "Girl who Played with Fire" BluRay disks. This results in the RIGHT timing code for the first subtitle but craps out for the remaining ones - see my previous post for details.

The solution requires these steps:

1) Demux with tsMuxer to .sup
2) Demux with EAC3TO to .sup
3) Compare start time for first subtitle - if different [they were for "Girl who Played with Fire"] calculate the difference in ms [EAC3TO was correct]
4) Convert the tsmuxer .sup file using BDSup2Sub to .idx/sub using the DELAY from Step 3). My delay was almost 10SECONDS [9958ms].

Now the idx file can be hardcoded using Avisynth with VSfilter.dll and x264.

I was able to produce a superb 720p recode with hardcoded subtitles using this method.

Kurt
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Old 12th February 2011, 18:39   #808  |  Link
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You are saying in effect that the eac3to .sup was corrupt, and the tsmuxer .sup was not, but had a wrong start time which you corrected with BDSup2Sub? I'm curious of the tsmuxer demuxed .sup threw any errors when loaded by BDSup2Sub (apparently not)?
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Old 14th February 2011, 04:16   #809  |  Link
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Hi!

I'm using this for the first time and I have one doubt. Where is the so-called "log" located? (is there any in the first place?). When I load certain BD SUP files it throws me 2 or 3 warnings and it tells me to see the "log". But I can't find it anywhere, only the .ini file with the program settings. Apparently the sub images are fine (haven't check 1 by 1, there are like 2000), but it worries me what the "warnings" could be or how can affect the subs. Great program btw, I have to use this to convert BD SUP files because SupRip is SERIOUSLY flawed, almost every SUP I try to open crashes the program at some point


Edit: Silly me, the log is the box on the left-bottom :P. The warnings always are: "multiple PDS/ODS definitions: result may be erratic". Should I worry? (I don't have the video here to test, but the lines that show the warning seem to be ok).

Edit 2: Well, that "PDS/ODS" thingy causes the next line to appear on top, where it should be on the bottom. Manually editing the frame (copying the "Y offset" from the next or previous frame) puts the frame back where it should be. Nothing too bad of a bug. I get two or three of these per SUP file (and not always). What's weird is that none of the lines has any weird effect or anything. They are all supposed to be plain lines appearing on the bottom of the screen. Screenies:




Also, what filter is the best? I'm converting the SUP subs to IDX/SUB (keeping everything intact) and all filters appear to have the same quality >.<

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Old 22nd February 2011, 00:35   #810  |  Link
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Maybe I'm missing something right in front of me, but can BD handle multiple subs simultaneously?

(I am chiefly interested in retiming entire swaths of "tinny" PAL DVD subtitles to 23.976; and would really love an app would could demux anything DVDdecrypt generates.)
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Old 22nd February 2011, 02:14   #811  |  Link
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Settings>>Conversion>>Change framerate - and, if needed, Convert resolution
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Old 22nd February 2011, 09:29   #812  |  Link
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My sequence:

1. DVDdecrypt PAL DVD
2. VOBsub to extract idx and sub files.
3. Drag either idx or sub into BD ... while opening, get error "There were 25 warnings" (and only the first subtitle displays or saves).


Log (parts of it):


BDSup2Sub 4.0.0 - a converter from Blu-Ray/HD-DVD SUP to DVD SUB/IDX and more
0xdeadbeef 02-12/2009
Official thread at Doom9: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=145277

Loading C:\Download\VTS_01_0.sub
WARNING: Language id fr(index:1) inactive -> ignored
WARNING: Language id de(index:2) inactive -> ignored
WARNING: Language id it(index:3) inactive -> ignored
WARNING: Language id es(index:4) inactive -> ignored
WARNING: Language id nl(index:5) inactive -> ignored
WARNING: Language id ar(index:6) inactive -> ignored
WARNING: Language id cs(index:7) inactive -> ignored
WARNING: Language id da(index:8) inactive -> ignored
WARNING: Language id fi(index:9) inactive -> ignored
WARNING: Language id el(index:10) inactive -> ignored
WARNING: Illegal language id: iw
WARNING: Language id iw(index:11) inactive -> ignored
WARNING: Language id hi(index:12) inactive -> ignored
WARNING: Language id hu(index:13) inactive -> ignored
WARNING: Language id no(index:14) inactive -> ignored
WARNING: Language id pl(index:15) inactive -> ignored
WARNING: Language id pt(index:16) inactive -> ignored
WARNING: Language id sv(index:17) inactive -> ignored
WARNING: Language id tr(index:18) inactive -> ignored
WARNING: Language id fr(index:19) inactive -> ignored
WARNING: Language id de(index:20) inactive -> ignored
WARNING: Language id it(index:21) inactive -> ignored
WARNING: Language id es(index:22) inactive -> ignored
WARNING: Language id nl(index:23) inactive -> ignored
# 1
# 2
# 3
...
# 521
# 522
WARNING: Invalid end sequence offset -> no end time
# 523
# 524
# 1108
# 1109
....
Detected 0 forced captions.
WARNING: end time of frame 522 < start time -> fixed
WARNING: duration of frame 522 is shorter than 520ms
Decoding frame 1/1109 at offset 0x0002e000
WARNING: duration of frame 522 is shorter than 500.5ms
Decoding frame 1/1109 at offset 0x0002e000
WARNING: duration of frame 522 is shorter than 500.5ms
Decoding frame 1/1109 at offset 0x0002e000

Writing C:\Download\VTS_01_0_exp.sub
Decoding frame 1/1109 at offset 0x0002e000
Decoding frame 2/1109 at offset 0x00042800
Decoding frame 3/1109 at offset 0x0005e800
...
Decoding frame 1108/1109 at offset 0x05c19800
Decoding frame 1109/1109 at offset 0x05c42800

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...does anyone have a solution for the problem indicated above?

Thanks....
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Hi there, I am kind of new at this and I am seeking help regarding the colour codes.

This is the current .sub I have.


I am aiming to change the colour to white with black shadow instead of the current black with light blue shadow.

I have found out that Edit > Edit DVD Frame Palette can change the colours.

But I could not figure out how to get my desired colours.


The closest I got was this.


I have also read the help documentation at javaforge but could not find any information that was specific to the colour codes.

Any help or comments regarding this issue will be deeply appreciated.
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You are saying in effect that the eac3to .sup was corrupt, and the tsmuxer .sup was not, but had a wrong start time which you corrected with BDSup2Sub? I'm curious of the tsmuxer demuxed .sup threw any errors when loaded by BDSup2Sub (apparently not)?
No errors. Only reason I noticed the delay was that I remuxed and viewed the film with the subtitles. Obviously they didn't line up and I realized that the delay was identical to the difference between the EAC and Ts start times.

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Old 10th April 2011, 17:17   #816  |  Link
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i know this is purely a conversion tool bnut since it reads both DVD and BD subs nearly perfectly i think it would be a good idea to integrate OCR support right into it. main reason being suprip has problems and misses lines this catches everything and i actually use it to get the missing lines manually. also when cvting to sub the resulting sub it rather hard to ocr (using subrip) as compared say normal dvd subs.
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Hi there, I am kind of new at this and I am seeking help regarding the colour codes.

This is the current .sub I have.

I am aiming to change the colour to white with black shadow instead of the current black with light blue shadow.

I have found out that Edit > Edit DVD Frame Palette can change the colours.

But I could not figure out how to get my desired colours.

The closest I got was this.

I have also read the help documentation at javaforge but could not find any information that was specific to the colour codes.

Any help or comments regarding this issue will be deeply appreciated.
Just to be clear, are you looking to change the colors from their original style, or is the problem that when you loaded the subtitles into BDSup2Sub they came out looking wrong?

I ask because I see that your black subtitles are already using a custom palette.

If the original source's subtitles are the color you want, then go to that drop box along that top that says "Palette" and change it from 'create new' to 'keep existing'.
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Just to be clear, are you looking to change the colors from their original style, or is the problem that when you loaded the subtitles into BDSup2Sub they came out looking wrong?

I ask because I see that your black subtitles are already using a custom palette.

If the original source's subtitles are the color you want, then go to that drop box along that top that says "Palette" and change it from 'create new' to 'keep existing'.
The source .sub is actually white with black shadow, the problem is that vobsub somehow extracted it off with the wrong colour(black).

I am looking to change it to the colour it is suppose to be.
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You can do this in Subtitle Creator.
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is it possible to set the language of the output file with command line to the same language as the source file? something like /lang:keep does'nt work.
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