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Old 17th June 2010, 18:41   #1921  |  Link
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I am sure Mike can come up with something. I know one issue with PGS subs was that MKVMerge didn't support, but according to SeeMoreDigital it appears that version 4.0 now supports PGS so who knows, maybe the sky is the limit. Mike's done a great job with AEAC and I am sure he still has more tricks up his sleeve
No, that's incorrect. 4.0 will pass through the PGS subs if they're already in the original MKV you're using as the source. It will not allow you to add them if they aren't there already.
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No, that's incorrect. 4.0 will pass through the PGS subs if they're already in the original MKV you're using as the source. It will not allow you to add them if they aren't there already.
Ahh...interesting. I wonder why add support to pass through but not add support to mux in????
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I suspect it's more complicated to add muxing support for it. With passthrough it's already there. I'm just guessing. I really have no idea.
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I suspect it's more complicated to add muxing support for it. With passthrough it's already there. I'm just guessing. I really have no idea.
I wonder if Mosu can shed some light.

I did a quick search of his thread and couldn't find anybody even requesting PGS subtitle support as a feature
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I wonder if Mosu can shed some light.

I did a quick search of his thread and couldn't find anybody even requesting PGS subtitle support as a feature
Oh that's not good. I was under the assumption it had been asked for. Oops!

On the plus side, I just got this all working in 7MC, as well. I forgot about the Win7DSTweaker requirement of shutting off the built in MS codecs and using ffdshow dxva instead. Subs and bitstreaming all working fine.
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The support for reading PGS subs from Matroska files in mkvtoolnix was requested by one of the MakeMKV developers. I implemented that and extracting them in mkvextract. He argued that adding support for reading raw PGS files was not such a big priority as MakeMKV was the only app creating those files, and because MakeMKV already creates Matroska files.

mkvmerge will get raw PGS input support in the near future though.

Support for PGS in mkvmerge & mkvextract has been implemented at the end of 2009 with release 3.1.0.
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Very very nice, Mosu! Thank you!! This will give people options. The embedded PGS in an MKV is really nice, the haali issue aside. Looking forward to it!
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Yes thanks Mosu...
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@albain

Can you take a look at these logs when you get a moment?

http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?...postcount=1877

What's really odd to me is that using Haali, my other machines that don't bitstream can decode the DTS core track just fine. It's just the bitstreaming that's an issue. I'm sure if you look at those logs you'll be able to tell why the bitstreaming is broken and maybe that'll help pinpoint the source of the problem. Maybe? Anyway, I'd appreciate it if you get a chance. Thanks!!
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samuri, i'd suggest you not to loose much time with other mkv muxers.
Just give it a go with Solveig for now; you'll get core ac3 and core dts from THD+ac3 or DTSHD.
Or only HD audio, whatever you wish.
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But it doesn't support PGS subs yet, right? Plus I'm not entirely sure how to even use it. I'm guessing you have to set it up in graphstudio? And only 32 bit at the moment, yes?
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But it doesn't support PGS subs yet, right? Plus I'm not entirely sure how to even use it. I'm guessing you have to set it up in graphstudio? And only 32 bit at the moment, yes?
Correct, it's 32 bit and doesn't support PGS subs yet.
But they are working on 64 bit muxer and i think new versions will support both of those missing things.

BTW i'm using Seven/64 and i can use it on MPC-HC as well. (while playing...)

Solveig 32 and MPC-HC 32...

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That'd be good. Another option would be nice to have. Once it supports 64 bit and PGS subs I'll give it a try. Be curious to see if we can get it to split for WMP and 7MC, as well. I think we're getting there though.
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That'd be good. Another option would be nice to have. Once it supports 64 bit and PGS subs I'll give it a try. Be curious to see if we can get it to split for WMP and 7MC, as well. I think we're getting there though.
I'm sure both features will be available in one month; i guess.
What ordinary users will need is gonna be a gui for the muxer.
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I'm sure both features will be available in one month; i guess.
What ordinary users will need is gonna be a gui for the muxer.
Yea, that's guaranteed. Most users aren't going to be able to load it up in graphstudio and attach everything correctly. Hell, I'm not even sure I know exactly how to do it myself. I could probably stumble my way through it, but... A tray icon for the splitter wouldn't hurt, either. That's one of the things I like about Haali.
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samuri, i'd suggest you not to loose much time with other mkv muxers.
Just give it a go with Solveig for now; you'll get core ac3 and core dts from THD+ac3 or DTSHD.
Or only HD audio, whatever you wish.
Any reason to use Solveig over the MPC splitter (Matroska)? Neither support PGS but aside from that MatroskaSplitter.ax has been rock solid. Always good to have choices
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Any reason to use Solveig over the MPC splitter (Matroska)? Neither support PGS but aside from that MatroskaSplitter.ax has been rock solid. Always good to have choices
I've been talking about muxer; no any other muxer is able to remux any thd+ac3 file into an mkv container
for now. So finally you can get ac3 core or dts core seperately as you wish via Solveig Splitter over ffdshow.

Pls have a look at this:

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I've been talking about muxer; no any other muxer is able to remux any thd+ac3 file into an mkv container
for now. So finally you can get ac3 core or dts core seperately as you wish via Solveig Splitter over ffdshow.
Just as an FYI, MakeMKV has that ability.
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Just as an FYI, MakeMKV has that ability.
Really?

Thx, i'll give it a go.
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Yup. It's quite awesome. It allows you to extract the core audio as a separate track while keeping or removing the HD audio track. It can do similar things with subs (forced can be extracted to a separate sub track while keeping or removing the original). I really like it.
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