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Old 17th April 2010, 08:38   #1  |  Link
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x264 bounties: find these people!

We're almost done preparing to dual-license x264: what a mess this has been! We've gotten almost all the rights we need, including an agreement with Avail Media, x264's biggest corporate backer.

The really really short version: this will allow companies to license x264 to use in commercial products where the GPL would be prohibitive. x264 will of course remain free; the commercial version will be the same program, just under a different license. Of course, the companies will still be required to contribute back their improvements

This leaves us with just three people left who I have been unable to contact:

philj [AT] csufresno [DOT] edu
imcold [AT] centrum [DOT] sk
noboru.asai [AT] gmail [DOT] com


This means finding newer emails, poking them with sharp sticks, etc.

I will give a $100 reward via Paypal to anyone whose information results in finding one of these people and getting their approval. One reward per person found, so up to $300 total. And do keep in mind, if you are one of these people... you can still claim the reward for finding yourself

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Old 17th April 2010, 08:44   #2  |  Link
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Common People, the world needs x264.......
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Old 17th April 2010, 09:16   #3  |  Link
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imcold [AT] centrum [DOT] sk
david petes from Slovakia-
you can contact him using facebook. he is the only david petes there.
http://www.facebook.com/confirmemail....3678496215..1
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Old 17th April 2010, 09:21   #4  |  Link
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Phil J (a.k.a. Phil Jensen)
http://www.csufresno.edu/its/usg/directory.htm
Personal Home Page: http://www.philjensen.com/
Calendar of venues his band will play at: http://www.philjensen.com/shows.htm (outdated)
Contact information for his band (phone + email): http://www.philjensen.com/email.htm (outdated)

Edit: What Revgen posted seems more likely, the 'personal homepage' link on csufresno.edu feels like it could be a typo.
Edit2: It appears that www.philjensen.com was only his website until 2005, so the above info, except name, is useless.
Edit3: Facebook page http://www.facebook.com/people/Phil-Jensen/1576250812

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Old 17th April 2010, 09:23   #5  |  Link
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Here is what I could find on philj [AT] csufresno [DOT] edu

His name is Phil Jensen.

He used to work at CSU Fresno, but now works at a San Francisco company called Proofpoint.

Here is his profile at LinkedIn. http://www.linkedin.com/pub/phil-jensen/19/66b/294

Here is the company he works for. http://www.proofpoint.com/
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Old 17th April 2010, 09:43   #6  |  Link
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Pinged Phil on Linkedin and David on Facebook; hopefully they're paying attention on those sites. If not, whoever finds another contact method will still get the bounty.

Noboru Asai seems like a harder one, since nobody knows how to de-romanize his name...
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Old 17th April 2010, 09:55   #7  |  Link
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David also has a deviant art page
http://imclod.deviantart.com/
He has posted on your blog before so you may want to put you are trying to contact these people there as well

cyberbeing also posted Phil's face book
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1576250812

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Noboru Asai seems like a harder one, since nobody knows how to de-romanize his name...
It's 浅井登 - I'm guessing VFR_maniac and JEEB may be able to contact him.

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15:55 (VFR_maniac) x264のjapanese commiterは私と浅井登氏だけだな
"the only japanese x264 committers are Asai Noboru-shi and me, huh"

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That is good info. I assume that this maybe him as well http://github.com/asai , but I don't know.
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I was able to track down an e-mail address that was published as recently as 2008.

Noboru.Asai@itt.com

I don't if that's him though.
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That's a different guy, I believe. His name is 浅井 昇, while the man we want is 浅井 登.

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Ah, found an old address of his (from 1999):

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浅井 登 / Noboru Asai
  [e-mail lich _at_ indigo.plala.or.jp]

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^Could be right.

There was a programmer named Noboru Asai who worked for Fujitsu in the 90's, but I haven't been able to trace anything more.
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^Could be right.

There was a programmer named Noboru Asai who worked for Fujitsu in the 90's, but I haven't been able to trace anything more.
I don't think it is him. Here is a quick bio: "Noboru Asai graduated in 1972 with a degree in Mathematics from Nagoya University in 1972 and immediately joined Fujitsu Facom Ltd. After a year he moved to Fujitsu Ltd. In 1990 he was transferred to Fujitsu Shizuoka Engineering Ltd. After working on the development of Lisp, Prolog, APL BASIC and AI, etc., he began work on developing run-time library of VPP500 system. He is a member of Information Processing Institute."
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That's a different guy, I believe. His name is 浅井 昇, while the man we want is 浅井 登.

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Ah, found an old address of his (from 1999):

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I found that too.

http://his.luky.org/ML/vine-users.0/msg02216.html

And he's responding to somebody who has a Fujitsu e-mail address. Doesn't mean that he's a former or current Fujitsu employee though, but it makes you wonder.
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That's the message I got it from. There's another one sent by him, but there's no further information to be gotten there.

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And he's responding to somebody who has a Fujitsu e-mail address. Doesn't mean that he's a former or current Fujitsu employee though, but it makes you wonder.
It probably doesn't mean anything, since it's a Vine user mailing list and everyone has different addresses, from all sorts of providers and companies. He also doesn't know the Fujitsu employee, since he introduces himself and his submission.

In any case VFR_maniac, JEEB, or other Japanese x264 users/devs will probably know more about how to contact him (or if he's been around in the past year).
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The really really short version: this will allow companies to license x264 to use in commercial products where the GPL would be prohibitive.
Why not relicense it under LGPL?
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Why not relicense it under LGPL?
Some devs didn't want to, which was enough to kill that idea.

LGPL also still has the implicit patent clause that scares a lot of companies.
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I'm sure you're aware of this, but just in case you aren't: If you can't get in touch with these people you can either get a clean room reimplementation of any pieces of code they contributed if they contributed a lot or if they contributed a small bit you could just revert their commits and reimplement the functionality another way. It is less than ideal, but a project I'm part of had to go the re-implement route recently as there were just too many contributors which could not be found.
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I found these two phone numbers that are apparently Phil Jensens. I guess you could always call him Dark Shikari, as you both live in CA.
(408) 363-0314
(408) 269-2883
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I'm sure you're aware of this, but just in case you aren't: If you can't get in touch with these people you can either get a clean room reimplementation of any pieces of code they contributed if they contributed a lot or if they contributed a small bit you could just revert their commits and reimplement the functionality another way. It is less than ideal, but a project I'm part of had to go the re-implement route recently as there were just too many contributors which could not be found.
Of course, that's always in theory an option. But I don't think we'll have to do that.
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