Matroska and Menus (Development stalled?)

CruNcher · 5th February 2008, 18:04

Hi seeing the recent Commercial Developments (mainly by DivX Inc. and their partners ((Corel)Intervideo)) in this direction i wondered what is up with Matroska and its Menu system?
Maybe Christian, robUx4 or Betaboy can say something about its status or if even someone is working on it currently

POIs would be
Menuextract progress
Authoring progress
Directshow Navigation Filter and OSS Player implementation progress (VLC,Mplayer,CorePlayer,Betaplayer)

For DivX Ultra it's allready reality 1 file (everything inside) and even ongoing hardware and software support

Shinigami-Sama · 5th February 2008, 21:03

+1

I would love matroska menus

makes me wish I knew C/++ better

robU*4 · 6th February 2008, 10:40

Our mailing list is the best place to ask such questions (as many of us don't come here).
Yes it is stalled right now. But we want to develop it (again) in the coming months. We don't have a definitive timeline but it should happen within 6 months or so. Given online video distribution is becoming common, it's time for people to get the same DVD extras when they purchase online. And matroska is well suited to fill that gap.

CruNcher · 6th February 2008, 11:40

I see i tried your last examples of the XML structure with VLC and it works pretty good (non animated) so i wondered how it can bee that DivX is so fast and for Matroska almost everything seems to be ready except wide range Player and Hardware support. Just did my first DivX Ultra DVDrip with 1 click and this was shocking easy todo. But it's far from efficient as Matroska is with it's limited Codec support for now

PS: I might also add that Corels System is very basic stuff they just create a chapter index (using divx6author) of the DVD and don't recreate (or use) the whole original DVD menu or chapters

And it takes a long long time to complete also, 86 chapters those boys are crazy

grumpy · 7th November 2009, 05:05

On the matroska website forums, as far as I can tell, all questions on menu system development (pretty much every third post) seem to dead end and the last official looking post(from betaboy) on the subject was in 2007. Has there been any developments in development in the last year and a half?

BetaBoy · 7th November 2009, 06:29

We have been working on libmatroska and libebml 2.0 since then. Menus are still important but getting to 2.0 is just as important.

grumpy · 9th November 2009, 05:20

Your a busy man, lots of balls in the air, I certainly understand that it's not near the top of the to do list. Thanks for the reply.

5th February 2008, 18:04	#1 \| Link
CruNcher Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 2,698	Matroska and Menus (Development stalled?) Hi seeing the recent Commercial Developments (mainly by DivX Inc. and their partners ((Corel)Intervideo)) in this direction i wondered what is up with Matroska and its Menu system? Maybe Christian, robUx4 or Betaboy can say something about its status or if even someone is working on it currently POIs would be Menuextract progress Authoring progress Directshow Navigation Filter and OSS Player implementation progress (VLC,Mplayer,CorePlayer,Betaplayer) For DivX Ultra it's allready reality 1 file (everything inside) and even ongoing hardware and software support __________________ all my compares are riddles so please try to decipher them yourselves :) current Main XviD PSNRLab version 1.1 current XviD PSNRLab update 1.1.3 MT1389xx Player Infos XviD EDP Build CVS (CruNchers Visual System ©) V 1.4 new with predefined profiles ;) Code: Olivera: "We're expendable assets" "and we've just been expended" "It's not a trick it's a Sony Rootkit" pwnz :devil: :angry: :rolleyes: Last edited by CruNcher; 5th February 2008 at 18:18.

6th February 2008, 10:40	#3 \| Link
robU*4 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 87	Our mailing list is the best place to ask such questions (as many of us don't come here). Yes it is stalled right now. But we want to develop it (again) in the coming months. We don't have a definitive timeline but it should happen within 6 months or so. Given online video distribution is becoming common, it's time for people to get the same DVD extras when they purchase online. And matroska is well suited to fill that gap. __________________ Matroska Founder / CoreCodec developer

6th February 2008, 11:40	#4 \| Link
CruNcher Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 2,698	I see i tried your last examples of the XML structure with VLC and it works pretty good (non animated) so i wondered how it can bee that DivX is so fast and for Matroska almost everything seems to be ready except wide range Player and Hardware support. Just did my first DivX Ultra DVDrip with 1 click and this was shocking easy todo. But it's far from efficient as Matroska is with it's limited Codec support for now PS: I might also add that Corels System is very basic stuff they just create a chapter index (using divx6author) of the DVD and don't recreate (or use) the whole original DVD menu or chapters And it takes a long long time to complete also, 86 chapters those boys are crazy __________________ all my compares are riddles so please try to decipher them yourselves :) current Main XviD PSNRLab version 1.1 current XviD PSNRLab update 1.1.3 MT1389xx Player Infos XviD EDP Build CVS (CruNchers Visual System ©) V 1.4 new with predefined profiles ;) Code: Olivera: "We're expendable assets" "and we've just been expended" "It's not a trick it's a Sony Rootkit" pwnz :devil: :angry: :rolleyes: Last edited by CruNcher; 6th February 2008 at 17:05.

7th November 2009, 05:05	#5 \| Link
grumpy Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 27	On the matroska website forums, as far as I can tell, all questions on menu system development (pretty much every third post) seem to dead end and the last official looking post(from betaboy) on the subject was in 2007. Has there been any developments in development in the last year and a half? Last edited by grumpy; 7th November 2009 at 05:13.

7th November 2009, 06:29	#6 \| Link
BetaBoy CoreCodec Founder Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Sunny Florida Posts: 1,029	We have been working on libmatroska and libebml 2.0 since then. Menus are still important but getting to 2.0 is just as important. __________________ Dan "BetaBoy" Marlin Ubiquitous Developer Tools and Multimedia Technologies. http://corecodec.com http://coreforge.org

9th November 2009, 05:20	#7 \| Link
grumpy Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 27	Your a busy man, lots of balls in the air, I certainly understand that it's not near the top of the to do list. Thanks for the reply.

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