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Old 13th January 2009, 20:24   #81  |  Link
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In that way you can encode at same quality instead of same bitrate.
So the eps do not differ? I'm simply setting the same target size for all eps.

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so at the end the program can then use the information to cut the resulting file into episodes
Which won't work on external subtitles.
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Old 14th January 2009, 00:32   #82  |  Link
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So the eps do not differ? I'm simply setting the same target size for all eps.

Sure, they might differ in size and bitrate, because one might be more complex than others.


Which won't work on external subtitles.
Sure it will, you can rip the subs separately, ep by ep. If the process of cutting the eps has been done correctly, they will still be in synch.

Or am I not understanding what you mean by external eps?
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It appears you don't understand why I'm using AutoGK: I want the program to do the job for me which means not to have to cut the external subs manually.
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It appears you don't understand why I'm using AutoGK: I want the program to do the job for me which means not to have to cut the external subs manually.
Again, I do not know in what other way it would be possible, since with OCR you will still need character recognition, for which I for instance use a program that still needs my input (SubRip). If there are programs that can automate that process, where's the problem? Instead of doin it yourself, it could be automated. I do not know how, but it should be possible.

Besides that, why not use the timecodes/framecounts that were used by AutoGK to cut the final stream to also cut the subtitle stream?
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Besides that, why not use the timecodes/framecounts that were used by AutoGK to cut the final stream to also cut the subtitle stream?
If I understood len0x's previous posts correctly that's not working correctly. Besides, I'm only using idx/sub which spares me to do OCR.
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Old 19th January 2009, 11:58   #86  |  Link
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If I understood len0x's previous posts correctly that's not working correctly. Besides, I'm only using idx/sub which spares me to do OCR.
Okay, that's a different story. Then forget my whole remark.
(But still, shouldn't it be possible to modify those streams somehow?)

I for one never use idx/sub because they take up multiple MB that could be used for encoding, plus I do not like the way the subs look. But of course that's a matter of taste and personal preferences.
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It's a matter of taste, alright. Consider me surprised about you prefering rendered subs over the originals, after all most standalones pretty much suck displaying them but, do you really think ~4 MB on a 400 MB xvid (40 min ep, 2 languages) not spent on subs would make a noticeable difference when used for encoding?
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i read through a few pages and couldn't find any mentioning of
multi-angled dvds.
its not really a problem, since one can re-author the dvd in shrink, but
its still a bug in AGK and i figured you might wanna know (if in fact you dont).

so, if you encode a dvd that has angles, you get a mess lol. repeating
frames for different angles, randomly. an example dvd would be
"the kid" RC1 or "george of the jungle" RC1.

hope it helps, otherwise ignore it
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Wouldn't decrypting either of those movies using the IFO Mode of DVD Decrypter and choosing the angle you want solve the problem? It's up to the user to prepare the videos properly before sending to AutoGK. That may include removing any "modern" copy protection, the angle(s) you don't want, and any other stuff, such as logos or warnings, that may be in the same VTS as your movie.
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its still a bug in AGK and i figured you might wanna know (if in fact you dont).
its not a bug - its a feature of DGIndex where it can't process multi-angled vobs...
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Old 5th February 2009, 21:20   #91  |  Link
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well you can certainly argue that point. imho it should work or not
be possible. as it is, AGK will ask you want angle (PGC? cant recall)
to use, but no matter what you choose, you'll end up with
a mess out of all angles.



ps: the ones i've tried were ripped with RipIt4me (movie only). wouldn't it be the same in IFO mode with dvddecrypter?

edit: wrote this while you posted @len0x.. i see as i said, no problem, easy workaround and thanks for
the clarification. keep it up
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Nope, in IFO mode DVDD actually strips out angles... Angle/PGC selection is put in purely for subs to work properly on the material that was properly processes before. I agree it could be more obvious, but it was never intented to work in a different way due to limitation of DGIndex.
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good to know, thanks
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Old 6th February 2009, 10:11   #94  |  Link
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Hi Len0x

i want some spoiler.. what are your plan with AutoGK ?

thanks!

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Old 6th February 2009, 22:47   #95  |  Link
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I'm undecided I'm thinking to start looking at different containers first.
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Old 7th February 2009, 08:17   #96  |  Link
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it's a good start

both mp4 and mkv have good muxing utility and tagger

and ... then you will be ready for the next codec

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IMHO a good start is always to fix any remaining bug first before starting on new features. So dont push len0x, guys
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Max quality/FUWizard/Sliders & AGK

Hi,

I would like to come back on the subject from the main thread:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...72#post1246372
which was related to Max quality/FUWizard/Sliders

So I have tested some of the FUW profiles and manually set the xvid encoder

1/ If you use the FUW 2.90 version, the x264 is updated to a recent rev, xvid is not (still rev47)
To get the VAQ an SSE3 optimizations you need to unchek "use internal xvid" in the expert mode (options) and use the xvid installed by AGK (rev 50)

2/ There are some pros and cons with FUW. I will focus on quality. FUW doesn't use same parameters as AGK for xvid encoding; so it may influence in quality:
- In xvid encoder/quality preset/more/Quantization FUW use 1 to 31 (AGK uses 2 to 4, at least in 1pass encode)
- The Xvid/Standalone profile doesn't use B-frames
- To have b-frames you need to use the unrestricted profile

So it has an impact on size; big size should give better quality: I & P frames only, Quant up to 1 (AGK is limiting to q2)
I am sure it can be true for an ESS standalone, not so sure for MTK..

3/ Regarding the slider in FUW, the
- Fast-Lower quality
- medium - medium quality
- slow - high quality
is true for x264 (fast, slow, very slow) not really for Xvid cause there is IMO not enough choices.

The slider thingie is a good visual reference and maybe could be re-used in AGK; at least for:
- Fast speed - safe settings
- Slow speed - max quality
and adapted to ESS -MTK - Unrestricted profiles/presets if needed

I also think it can be usable for xvid as for X264 so double use !

Eventually more to come depending on feedback.

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Edit1 (to avoid increased number of posts) It seems there is a lot of big sizes encodes and often undersized with Xvid maxxed. FUW doesn't have this problem because it uses (by default?) Xvid Quantizer from Q1 to 31 instead of Q2 to4/5/x for AGK. Suggested:
-Cutting B-frames (as done actually) is a good way to lower compressability and gain quality.
-Extending Quantizer range up to Q1 could also help for 2 pass but also for 1 pass
-Besides that the denoiser removegrain (mode=2) gives more compression than mode=5 or =1 so the latest could be used for a very little upsizing gain (+/- 1%) and gain some details (or grain, nobody's perfect)
*For the MTK or unrestricted set, using a less compressible CQM still MTK/SAP compatible like sharktooth Eqm V3 HR or Heini MR (modded rev of the V3-HR) could upsize for +/-3% and gain more details/sharpness (some tests with VAQ 1 pass)
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Heh, I'm sort of back after really sudden wave of problems that hit me this spring After lots of hardware problems, having to move home, loosing internet, vacations and busy time at work I'm going to catch up with what's going on around here
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welcome back len0x!

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