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Old 2nd April 2009, 07:24   #761  |  Link
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It's difficult to judge by a few results. My experience is any version of FAVC is less prone to crap out if you encode a single file. If I can I append files to a single file. Also it seems like a crap shoot. You can set the bitrate up and "get away with it" for a few runs, but then it's back to crash city. The only stable config I've found is set the max bitrate to 4000. For most stuff that seems to work well. otoh I don't have 50" + plasma tv either. So it doesn't have to be perfect.
That defeats the entire purpose of using a high quality encoder. You may as well just use DVD Flick. At least then you'll have the bitrate needed for fast action.

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I lowered the bit-rate to 7000 and then tried 6000 but it still missed files out. But I don't understand how doing that would do anything?

I have to merge the vob files together with VobMerge and use TDA3 to create a DVD :'(
Just make sure you save your working files. You can then use the free and tiny ReJig to author your final DVD. And don't forget to also use the TitleChap0.txt file to get all your chapters.

http://www.softpedia.com/progScreens...hot-80723.html

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Old 2nd April 2009, 08:31   #762  |  Link
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Cool OK, thanks. It could have been from a HDD problem, not sure until I do another. Would have deleted me post if you hadn't of responded.

I have a Dual Core CPU. HCenc auto picks up that I have one right?


Tried using FAVC 1.06 twice today with a .mkv but the video & audio was 2x as fast and not understandable sounding.

mkv file info:
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General
Complete name                    : *******
Format                           : Matroska
File size                        : 1.09 GiB
Duration                         : 41mn 46s
Overall bit rate                 : 3 746 Kbps
Encoded date                     : UTC 2009-04-02 02:51:05
Writing application              : mkvmerge v2.3.0 ('Freak U') built on Oct  7 2008 20:39:59
Writing library                  : libebml v0.7.7 + libmatroska v0.8.1

Video
ID                               : 2
Format                           : AVC
Format/Info                      : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                   : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC           : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames        : 3 frames
Muxing mode                      : Container profile=Unknown@4.1
Codec ID                         : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration                         : 41mn 43s
Bit rate                         : 3 205 Kbps
Nominal bit rate                 : 3 359 Kbps
Width                            : 1 280 pixels
Height                           : 720 pixels
Display aspect ratio             : 16/9
Frame rate                       : 23.976 fps
Resolution                       : 24 bits
Colorimetry                      : 4:2:0
Scan type                        : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)               : 0.145
Writing library                  : x264 core 67 r1123tw
Encoding settings                : cabac=1 / ref=3 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=hex / subme=6 / psy_rd=1.0:0.0 / mixed_ref=0 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=6 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / wpredb=1 / keyint=240 / keyint_min=24 / scenecut=40 / rc=2pass / bitrate=3359 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30 / aq=1:1.00
Language                         : English

Audio
ID                               : 1
Format                           : AC-3
Format/Info                      : Audio Coding 3
Codec ID                         : A_AC3
Duration                         : 41mn 46s
Bit rate mode                    : Constant
Bit rate                         : 384 Kbps
Channel(s)                       : 6 channels
Channel positions                : Front: L C R, Surround: L R, LFE
Sampling rate                    : 48.0 KHz
Have done similar if not identical quality matroskas in the past using the same settings. I wouldn't say "no problem" as it's pot luck. 70% of the time it produces a DVD.

There was mention of lowering the video Bierate to 7000 due Muxman can be possibly being sensitive to spikes. Didn't resolve anything anyway.

FAVC 1.07 supposedly has problems retaining AC3 audio.

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Old 10th April 2009, 06:35   #763  |  Link
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Try using a recent ffdshow build and the Haali splitter.
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Old 10th April 2009, 12:46   #764  |  Link
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Will do.


Did a test convert yesterday for the hell of it and it worked. As far as I can tell it is exactly the same spec mkv. Exactly. It's odd how it works when it wants to.

Only difference this time is I selected 'Balance' from usual 'Quality' preset in HC options. Bitrate 7000 as usual. Not sure 7000 helps because I have done a mkv convert before at 9400.

Also didn't have FFDshow or Halii installed. Again that doesn't mean anything because I have had successful converts with them installed.

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General
Complete name                    : *******

Format                           : Matroska
File size                        : 1.09 GiB

Duration                         : 41mn 49s
Overall bit rate                 : 3 740 Kbps
Encoded date                     : UTC 2009-04-09 02:53:57
Writing application              : mkvmerge v2.3.0 ('Freak U') built on Oct  7 2008 20:39:59
Writing library                  : libebml v0.7.7 + libmatroska v0.8.1

Video
ID                               : 2
Format                           : AVC
Format/Info                      : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                   : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC           : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames        : 3 frames
Muxing mode                      : Container profile=Unknown@4.1
Codec ID                         : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration                         : 41mn 47s
Bit rate                         : 3 199 Kbps


Nominal bit rate                 : 3 353 Kbps
Width                            : 1 280 pixels
Height                           : 720 pixels
Display aspect ratio             : 16/9
Frame rate                       : 23.976 fps
Resolution                       : 24 bits
Colorimetry                      : 4:2:0
Scan type                        : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)               : 0.145
Writing library                  : x264 core 67 r1123tw
Encoding settings                : cabac=1 / ref=3 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=hex / subme=6 / psy_rd=1.0:0.0 / mixed_ref=0 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=6 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / wpredb=1 / keyint=240 / keyint_min=24 / scenecut=40 / rc=2pass / bitrate=3353 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30 / aq=1:1.00
Language                         : English

Audio
ID                               : 1
Format                           : AC-3
Format/Info                      : Audio Coding 3
Codec ID                         : A_AC3
Duration                         : 41mn 49s

Bit rate mode                    : Constant
Bit rate                         : 384 Kbps
Channel(s)                       : 6 channels
Channel positions                : Front: L C R, Surround: L R, LFE
Sampling rate                    : 48.0 KHz
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Old 10th April 2009, 19:32   #765  |  Link
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That defeats the entire purpose of using a high quality encoder. You may as well just use DVD Flick. At least then you'll have the bitrate needed for fast action.
I disagree. Depends what you're doing, though. I tend to throw a whole bunch of stuff on a single DVD mainly for portability reasons, and with a max of 4000 they can look "great" even though a file info program will show they highest bitrate is maybe 2000 or even around 1500.

If I put those same files into, say, ConvertxtoDVD, they definitely look worse because the encoder is worse. I can't remember what I didn't like about DVD Flick, but it had faults or was missing things compared to FAVC. Whether the encoder it uses isn't as good, I don't remember, because I didn't like other things about it.

Point is, regardless of bitrate, I'd rather use Quenc or HC (and FAVC) than various other encoders out there because they do a better job, so there's something to be said about that. Bitrate definitely isn't everything.
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Old 22nd April 2009, 17:16   #766  |  Link
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That defeats the entire purpose of using a high quality encoder. You may as well just use DVD Flick. At least then you'll have the bitrate needed for fast action.

@ Brent.M
I don't know what "bitrate needed for fast action" means, but typically FAVC running on 4 cores will give more than double the fps output of Flick running multi-threaded. That's why the unix guys liked fork() so much.

Besides, I'm not stopping your from setting it to 8000. Go for it. I'm just relating my experience. I have no way to know what the exact nature of the bitrate spike problem is with FAVC. All I know it that it's been there for quite awhile. Mr_Odwin doesn't seem to be around anymore the shed more light on the problem.

I'm not a believer in "one piece of software does all" anyway. Esp. on video conversion freeware it's often the case that a converter that works great on certain types of input will often choke on others. To expect one converter to do it all is kind of naive.
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Old 7th May 2009, 03:29   #767  |  Link
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Anybody know how the path FAVC\Menu\Preview\Preview.avs get installed? I had to reinstall FAVC after a crash and now that path and file do not appear. I have FAVC\MENU with a NTSC and PAL folder, but no Preview folder so menu previews do not work any longer.

What files am I missing?
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Nevermind, I fixed the problem. For the sake of others with the same issue:

The .EXE installer does not create all the folder content, but the .ZIP installer does. Using the ZIP install over the existing EXE install cured the bug.

I suspect the problem is caused because the EXE install does not create the empty Preview folder beneath Menu, and the menu preview code does not have the ability to create a new folder on its own.
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Old 7th May 2009, 20:40   #769  |  Link
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A question guys.
Is there a way to bypass the AC3Fix step?
I want to retain the AC3 track I have but bypass the AC3Fix step.

Thanks in advance.
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Old 7th May 2009, 20:49   #770  |  Link
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Best fix so far is to use version 1.6, as far as I know. 1.6 won't input I think vob files, but oh well.
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Old 8th May 2009, 23:12   #771  |  Link
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Another question.
How can I add the HC "AVSRELOAD" & "LOSSLESS" parameters to the process?

(For example, in the DVD Rebuilder ini
HC_AVSRELOAD=1
HC_LOSSLESS=1)

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Old 9th May 2009, 01:00   #772  |  Link
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I don't know what "bitrate needed for fast action" means, but typically FAVC running on 4 cores will give more than double the fps output of Flick running multi-threaded. That's why the unix guys liked fork() so much...
You've missed the point entirely. I wasn't talking about conversion speeds (that's a noob concern), I was referring to high action video footage. An average video bitrate of 4000 (VBR encode) may be fine, but if you check the actual bitrate on playback you'll see it is lower when nothing much is happening but during action sequences it is much higher, hitting 8+Mb/s. These higher bitrates are needed to avoid the common artifacts that occur during high action, blockiness/pixilation/ghosting, whatever folks tend to call them. I guess it doesn't matter much with the quality compromised Xvids that most are concerned with, but with a high quality source handcuffing the encoder to a max of 4000 isn't something I (and many others) would ever do.
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Recently i'm using FAVC 1.07 for encoding .mkv files to normal VOB files that goes on a DVD9 for my normal dvd player.

Everything goes very well. But when i look at the result there are no subs in it.
I add them in DVD Options menu into the program.
Box Hard subtitles not checked.
Sub is a .srt file.

So thing is everything (encoding) goes well. Also inserting a sub srt file is accepted by the program.
Result Good looking movie but without a sub. When i press subtitles on the remote control of my dvd player it says it has one but it won't show. Same thing on the PC. I can select a sub but no show.

Anyone can tell me what i maybe do wrong ?

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You've missed the point entirely. I wasn't talking about conversion speeds (that's a noob concern), I was referring to high action video footage. An average video bitrate of 4000 (VBR encode) may be fine, but if you check the actual bitrate on playback you'll see it is lower when nothing much is happening but during action sequences it is much higher, hitting 8+Mb/s. These higher bitrates are needed to avoid the common artifacts that occur during high action, blockiness/pixilation/ghosting, whatever folks tend to call them. I guess it doesn't matter much with the quality compromised Xvids that most are concerned with, but with a high quality source handcuffing the encoder to a max of 4000 isn't something I (and many others) would ever do.
I get the point exactly, which is to slyly insult via innuendo. Too bad you're not very capable at the practice, otherwise you'd be in government. Anyway, I would say most of my experience has been with FAVC or other encoders, if you put the max even at 9000, and let it calculate, it will set it around 4000 and change for a 2 hour .avi. This breathing space is myth afaics.
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I have a question.
I'm trying to convert an avi (divx) file to DVD.
The avi is 720x416 (Display aspect ratio 1.731).
The final video with FAVC was 4:3 letterbox.
So I tried with ConvertXtoDVD and the resulting video was 16:9.

Why is this happening with FAVC? Is there a way I can fix this? Maybe modify something? I'd like FAVC to output 16:9. Thanks in advance.
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Old 24th May 2009, 05:13   #776  |  Link
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AVI2DVD (http://torrents.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1182296) allows you to override 16x9 or 4x3, but I don't see any way to do it with FAVC. That's a good question.

It sounds like your problem is that you have an anamorphic AVI which is non-standard (AVI's should always have an aspect ratio of 1:1).
You could try remuxing into an MKV container (Google up MKVMerge). It allows you to set the display aspect ratio (which FAVC should then recognize).
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This is an incorrect statement. An Display AR of 1:1 would result in a square. Did you mean Pixel AR?
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This is an incorrect statement. An Display AR of 1:1 would result in a square. Did you mean Pixel AR?
If you are nitpicking, then yes, I misspoke (mistyped). (He said DAR first which threw me.)

He is shooting for a 2.05128:1 DAR and needs a PAR of 1.77:1 but really can't get there with an .avi container (assuming the video's original source was NTSC).

(Yes, I also know that mp4modifier can set the aspect ratio of avi files, but many players (and assumingly FAVC) do not recognize whatever it tweaks).

But back on topic, if Stanely_A just drops his file into MKVMerge, sets the video "Display width/height" to 852 & 416, and resave the file, FAVC should handle it just fine.

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Thanks everyone.
I did it with mp4modifier and FAVC did recognize the tweaks.
And the resulting videos were 16:9.
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Ok, that surprised me, but great. Mp4modifier is a much easier answer.
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