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Old 2nd February 2009, 04:37   #961  |  Link
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I'd tried renaming MAMMA_MIA to "MAMMA_MIA first" and that didn't work, then I moved it away and indeed you were right, that worked fine, thanks!
You are welcome. Actually found this tip in one of the earlier posts.

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No. Certainly it seems my Denon do not support AVCHD discs, but it recognized discs with full BD folder structures (aka without the option "Strictly AVCHD" enable).With version 0.17.3 it played discs (movie only/BD5) fine. Since version 0.18.4, the disc is recognized but the player got stuck immediately after trying to play the disc. Since it was working perfect in version 0.17, I'm assuming the issue is very similar that the skipping issues with PS3. It was not present on v0.17 but it is in v0.18. The only difference is that denon player refuses to play discs created with v0.18 (but indeed the disc is recognized as BD). Only Jdobbs could give us an idea.

PS. Full movie mode working perfect in all versions.
Have you taken a look at the *.bdmv, *.clpi and *.mpls files? Could it be that the *.bdmv files show that it is BD while the *.clpi and *.mpls files identify it as AVCHD? This could be throwing off your standalone's firmware. Just a guess.

There is a thread here about authoring for the Panasonic standalone... maybe someone there can help you further?

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Old 2nd February 2009, 09:16   #963  |  Link
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If you read through earlier posts you will find that ffmpeg / directshow has problems with decoding mixed interlaced/progressive VC-1 streams which is often found in the Extras of VC-1 disks. Apparently only few (not free) decoders can cope with such material.
I've searched through the post but cannot find these decoders you mention, care to say what they are so I can look into buying them?

also, once the extras are encoded using libav I can abort, set it to a faster codec and restart doing the main movie (which it does last)?
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Old 2nd February 2009, 16:09   #964  |  Link
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Ok, I was out-of-town for a while and couldn't respond...

For the folks having PS3 skipping problems -- is that on BD-25, BD-9, BD-5 or all?

Which encoder quality setting are you using?

Also, could someone try using the setting "ENCODE_QUALITY=6" and see if the skipping goes away. That uses the original command line that was in v0.17... That would at least eliminate the X264 settings.

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I've searched through the post but cannot find these decoders you mention, care to say what they are so I can look into buying them?

also, once the extras are encoded using libav I can abort, set it to a faster codec and restart doing the main movie (which it does last)?
The only decoder I found which did never fail on VC-1 mixed progressive/interlaced material was neuron2's DGVC1DecNV.
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...18#post1215718
It works with newer Nvidia cards only (!) and is not supported by BD-RB. So I guess there are still certain VC-1 files - sometimes found in the Extras of VC-1 BDs - for which BD-RB will fail.

IIRC there has been a post stating that the SONIC decoder might also work.
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Old 2nd February 2009, 18:45   #966  |  Link
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Crash on custom target size

Long time lurker, first time poster, love the forum, great topic.

Thanks to the wealth of information within this thread, I've successfully made backups of at least a dozen of my movies, no problems! I've done both BD9s and BD5s. I always use "movie only", ultra high quality 2 pass, and audio is untouched.

The quality is amazing, even on the BD5s. It's funny how a 25gb BD can look good at BD5 while an 8gb DVD looks terrible at DVD5. Anyways, lately, encountered a couple problems, not sure if they're bugs though:

1. The last three rebuilds, all of them at BD9, play in a narrow format on my Sammy BD-P2500. The first 10-12 backups all played flawlessly (as long as I remember to enable "Stricter AVCHD"), but the last three are messed up. I get big sidebars on my 16:9 DLP. The movies play fine on my PC using Classic Media Player at the proper wide aspect ratio of 2.35:1. I checked my HT setup by testing some previous backups, no problem, so I know my config is good. The only way I can fix it is to switch my BD player to output 720p and "format" the TV to "wide expand", but then the movie is obviously cropped and PQ is down. Like I said, this probably isn't a bug, but maybe someone knows what the dealio is.

2. All of my builds come up short of their intended media capacity, for example, a BD9 build will be anywhere from 300MB to a full GB less than the available size of the disc. BD5's also come up short between 300 and 400 MB. So I thought I try to manually adjust the size, just by 100MB to see if that helped. The 2nd pass finishes okay, but then my PC bluescreens during the rebuilding phase. The first time I did this was on a BD5, PC crashed towards the end of the rebuild. The second time was on a BD9, PC crashed before anything was written to the BD structure. BTW, I'm using Vista 64bit and libavcodec.

Here's the logged error:

Code:
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[21:47:17] BD Rebuilder v0.18.7 (beta)
  - Source:  THE MATRIX
  - Input BD size: 8.08 GB
  - Approximate total content: [02:16:17.770]
  - Target BD size: 7.72 GB
  - MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[21:47:17] PHASE ONE, Encoding
 - [21:55:31] Reencoding: VID_00001 (1 of 1)
[07:51:10]PHASE ONE complete
[07:51:10]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
 - [07:51:10] Rebuilding BD file Structure
And here's my build config:

Code:
[Options]
MODE=1
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
PRIORITY_CLASS=1
RESIZE=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=3
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
TRELLIS=1
COLOR_BOOST=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AVCHD=1
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
TARGET_SIZE=8010
MINIMIZE_TO_TRAY=1
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=E:\BD WORKFLOW - BD FORMAT\THE MATRIX\
WORKING_PATH=F:\BD WORKFLOW - OUTPUT\THE MATRIX\
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Old 2nd February 2009, 19:20   #967  |  Link
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The last three rebuilds, all of them at BD9, play in a narrow format on my Sammy BD-P2500.
I'm not sure how that could happen. Most HD is 1:1 ratio -- and the SAR for other item settings (extras) haven't changed at all. Is it possible you may have changed settings on your player?
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Old 2nd February 2009, 19:44   #968  |  Link
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Ok, I was out-of-town for a while and couldn't respond...

For the folks having PS3 skipping problems -- is that on BD-25, BD-9, BD-5 or all?

Which encoder quality setting are you using?

Also, could someone try using the setting "ENCODE_QUALITY=6" and see if the skipping goes away. That uses the original command line that was in v0.17... That would at least eliminate the X264 settings.

Thanks.
For my three that skipped on the PS3s, it was all on th Fast setting and all BD-9s..

I can try the encode quality 6 tonite on one of those that did skip. Will let you know the result, probably tommorrow morning snce I am currently half way thru re-doing XFiles at the moment.
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Hi!

I found a problem with audio language on Disney BluRays.

I have here for example "chronicles of narnia, part 1", region B, german.

After language selection on the first screen (choose german), then there comes a general BluRay Disc trailer -> german language

Immediatly after this, the come some Movie trailers. These are not in one m2ts files, but in more. Its 4 trailes and in between them, the are some short animations like "in cinema" or "on bluray".

On this trailers, the in between animations are german (eg. "Im Kino"), so it plays the correct playlist. But the audio on all trailers is english. On the original the audio is german.

Right click on PowerDVD->audio selection gives me only german audio to choose (already selected), even though in the m2ts is english and german (checked).

In the main movie, audio mapping is OK.

So problem summary:
Language dialog (choose german) -> BluRay Trailer (german) -> 4 Movie Trailers (english, should be german) -> movie menu.

Some screens:




Bye
Hi!

I have found exactly the same problem again on a different disc, also a Disney one. National Treasure 2.

This time tested with newest version 0.18.7. Keep all languages (audio + subs).

Interesting: The same trailer on right click in PowerDVD->Audio
- before the main movie: Only shows "German" as Language, English Audio is played
- when chosen the trailer from popup menu later: English, German and other lanuages to choose, and german is played

The INF file:
Code:
[Status]
LABEL=NATIONAL_TREASURE
VERSION=v0.18.7 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=47156211631
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=47036030976
TARGET_SIZE=24117248000
REDUCTION=.510184784877883
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=all
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
QUICK=0
PASS=0
COMPLETED=48
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
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M2TS_TARGET=68089245
RATE=7199
AUDIO=1
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For my three that skipped on the PS3s, it was all on th Fast setting and all BD-9s..

I can try the encode quality 6 tonite on one of those that did skip. Will let you know the result, probably tommorrow morning snce I am currently half way thru re-doing XFiles at the moment.
With 18.7, The ones that skip appear to skip on any quality setting. I ran Pride & Glory (Movie Only) at every possible setting for quality and both BD-9 and BD-5 discs, and got the skipping. I copied the whole movie to a BD-25 disc with ImgBurn and it played perfectly. (Its a 22gb original disc).
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I'm not sure how that could happen. Most HD is 1:1 ratio -- and the SAR for other item settings (extras) haven't changed at all. Is it possible you may have changed settings on your player?
Yeah, I don't think it's your software either. I did re-check the BD player and TV, and everything looks good, works fine on everything else that I've "rebuilded". There's nothing specific in the BD folder/file structure that addresses aspect ratio, is there? Maybe the source is corrupt. tsMuxeR reports source is 1920:816p, Profile 4.1.

I've got a couple more "rebuilds" to burn tonight (one for sure, the other may take until tomorrow to finish), both with unmodified output sizes (BD9). I'll let you know how they turn out.
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That can't be good.
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For my three that skipped on the PS3s, it was all on th Fast setting and all BD-9s..

I can try the encode quality 6 tonite on one of those that did skip. Will let you know the result, probably tommorrow morning snce I am currently half way thru re-doing XFiles at the moment.
Anyone else? Is everyone experiencing skipping on a PS3 since the 0.18 update -- or only a few?

The reason I asked for the ENCODE_QUALITY=6 setting is because that would enable exactly the same X264 settings as were in use for v0.17.13.
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The only decoder I found which did never fail on VC-1 mixed progressive/interlaced material was neuron2's DGVC1DecNV....IIRC there has been a post stating that the SONIC decoder might also work.
I didn't believe this when I read it, but sure enough when I tried libavcodec and WMVDecode DMO they failed, and I couldn't get Sonic HD Decoder to open it.

Then I demuxed the raw vc1 track and libavcodec still failed on it, but Sonic worked, at least for display--but I still couldn't make a graph that would work with Avisynth as input to x264...
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Anyone else? Is everyone experiencing skipping on a PS3 since the 0.18 update -- or only a few?

The reason I asked for the ENCODE_QUALITY=6 setting is because that would enable exactly the same X264 settings as were in use for v0.17.13.
I'll run Pride and Glory through again with the ENCODE_QUALITY=6 setting. I should be a good test, since I know for certain there isn't a problem with the original decrypted output from AnyDVD. I'll be using the most recent version 18.7.

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Anyone else? Is everyone experiencing skipping on a PS3 since the 0.18 update -- or only a few?

The reason I asked for the ENCODE_QUALITY=6 setting is because that would enable exactly the same X264 settings as were in use for v0.17.13.

I got skipping on Encode_Quality=6 doing BD-9 & BD-5.
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Then I'm at a loss as to what is causing it if it is within BD-RB. It is using exactly the same encoding and muxing parameters as was used in previous versions. I did update the X264.EXE release with that version also. You may want to try the newer version of BD-RB with the X264.EXE from v0.17.13 just to see if that might be the issue.

Could you please send me the LASTCMD.TXT, INF and INI files used for the encoding? Send to dvd-rb@dvd-rb.com
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I noticed that when the source is a Bluray remux (only movie) not fullBluRay is not possible to resume the second pass. Although not change anything Only press backup and abort. After several hours it is sad to see that all work is not productive. It is possible to manually make a resume?
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Then I'm at a loss as to what is causing it if it is within BD-RB. It is using exactly the same encoding and muxing parameters as was used in previous versions. I did update the X264.EXE release with that version also. You may want to try the newer version of BD-RB with the X264.EXE from v0.17.13 just to see if that might be the issue.

Could you please send me the LASTCMD.TXT, INF and INI files used for the encoding? Send to dvd-rb@dvd-rb.com
Movie Only / BD5 and BD9 disc (not AVCHD)
Jdobbs: Do you think it is the same issue I'm having with my denon player? It was working with v0.17.3 and not working with v0.18. The other difference I did was that I selected "good" as encoder setting in v0.18. Anything I can try or send you?
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I noticed that when the source is a Bluray remux (only movie) not fullBluRay is not possible to resume the second pass. Although not change anything Only press backup and abort. After several hours it is sad to see that all work is not productive. It is possible to manually make a resume?
Unfortunately you are typically encoding the entire movie for a "movie-only" encode. So the only point at which you could resume is between the first and second passes.

I may add an option in which the chapters are encoded individually. That way you could exit/resume at shorter intervals.

The other option is to set the encode so that it is using IDLE PRIORITY under the ENCODER SETTINGS menu and then select MINIMIZE TO TRAY under the FILE menu. That way you can let it run while using your computer and it will only use unused processor time -- letting other applications have priority. But when you aren't using your computer for something else, it will run at a speed comparible to what you'd get get with a higher priority. That's how I usually run mine.
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