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Old 10th September 2008, 12:02   #4181  |  Link
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Hi guys!

I m running XP with SP3. I ve read somewhere that it is possible to get EVR work on XP.

Do I just need to download:

NET Framework 3.5 Service Pack 1 (Full Package) (link: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en)

And will EVR just work fine after installing this? Or do I need to install the older versions of NET Framework first?

And after installing it, will it just work fine or do I have to do some other things in the XP/MPC-HC too?

thanks for all help!
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Hi guys!

I m running XP with SP3. I ve read somewhere that it is possible to get EVR work on XP.

Do I just need to download:
NET Framework 3.5 Service Pack 1 (Full Package) (link: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en)

And will EVR just work fine after installing this?
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Or do I need to install the older versions of NET Framework first?
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And after installing it, will it just work fine
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or do I have to do some other things in the XP/MPC-HC too?
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Old 10th September 2008, 21:52   #4183  |  Link
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Latest SVN still affected by bug:

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Old 10th September 2008, 22:31   #4184  |  Link
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you have to change the renderer to EVR
but thats in MPCs output/ogm panel

4clicks/keystrokes to change it
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Old 11th September 2008, 07:45   #4185  |  Link
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Any update for the G45 chipset? Using PowerDVD/Arcsoft TMT, hardware acceleration works but not in MPC HC (ive used stable up to 790 SVN).

Here is what it looks like in MPC HC:



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Any update for the G45 chipset? Using PowerDVD/Arcsoft TMT, hardware acceleration works but not in MPC HC (ive used stable up to 790 SVN).

Here is what it looks like in MPC HC:

Thanks.
What is your OS and what is your video renderer? Could you do a screeshot with left/click - Filters menu open (to have the list of loaded filters)
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Old 11th September 2008, 23:10   #4187  |  Link
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I have some nice TrueHD samples also, but we need to wait until the ffmpeg TrueHD/MLP decoder is included in ffdshow, or else we can't test.
I gave it a go with them and i got thd sound:

Analog outputs to receiver- set to DVD Direct Multichannel:



EDIT: correction; mpc mpa catches core ac3, sorry...

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Old 12th September 2008, 03:15   #4188  |  Link
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HELP! I have a serious problem.. Some video files work fine with DXVA like Nabari but Bleach stutters very badly when I enable DXVA any clue why? I have a 512MB Radeon HD 3870 video card.
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I gave it a go with them and i got thd sound:
This is nothing but AC3. MPA just detects the AC3 core and discards the lossless HD part.
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HELP! I have a serious problem.. Some video files work fine with DXVA like Nabari but Bleach stutters very badly when I enable DXVA any clue why? I have a 512MB Radeon HD 3870 video card.
Have you got sample?
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This is nothing but AC3. MPA just detects the AC3 core and discards the lossless HD part.
Yes you are right.
I think this is working:





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Right, ArcSoft does not seem to make restrictions concerning lossless audio formats (but this can't be seen at all with your stream as it is not even "HD" with 2 channel/48kHz/16-bit). But it is not cool to always change splitters and fiddle around with DS graphs with GraphStudio. Cool thing but not userfriendly. I will check the media subtype and connection format with ArcSoft. Currently a big thing to find working splitter/decoder pairings, which audio/video decoder supports which formats, which decoder is better with which format... then there are DTS-HD/TrueHD/EAC3 streams with and without DTS/AC3 core. A lot of things to consider if you want a complete working solution without restrictions here and there and one which is still customizable..
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The best thing would be extracting ac3 core from thd and trying with just thd but i couldn't find a way to mux it into a container;
that time i would be 100 percent sure
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That is right, I also think that would be best if the splitter decided whether to propagate AC3-Core only or TrueHD only, not both formats interleaved, just to keep things clear and to make it possible to distinguish decoders from each other. But I think in case of DTS-HD, this isn't possible, as DTS-HD needs DTS-Core to be decoded.. very confusing...
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But I think in case of DTS-HD, this isn't possible, as DTS-HD needs DTS-Core to be decoded.. very confusing...
Yes, you can never been sure whether you are decoding core or HD?
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Mhh, is there any hope on getting DXVA support with EVR on XP?
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Old 12th September 2008, 12:47   #4197  |  Link
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I also think that would be best if the splitter decided whether to propagate AC3-Core only or TrueHD only, not both formats interleaved, just to keep things clear and to make it possible to distinguish decoders from each other.
I agree with this. I guess you 're talking about mpc-hc's internal mpeg splitter, right? Would you make it like this? Also have in mind that only Blu-ray TrueHD tracks have an AC3 track interleaved. TrueHD tracks from HD DVD are plain TrueHD (that's in case you 'll support .evo files in the splitter.

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But I think in case of DTS-HD, this isn't possible, as DTS-HD needs DTS-Core to be decoded.. very confusing...
Yes, that's correct (all DTS-HD tracks have a DTS core).
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Old 12th September 2008, 15:41   #4198  |  Link
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a few general question:

- What does the option Lock back-buffer atually do?
- What is YUV Mixing for and when do use enable this?

some requests for maybe a next version:

- Enabling controls when playing in Direct3D Fullscreen mode. (I can never pause my film of rewind a great scene )
- HW acceleration support for my 7600GS (PCI-e version, this card has HW acc. onboard).

Thanks for all and keep up the good work.

For the ones who use Reclock: Slysoft took over the program and made a new beta version for now! Look at their site to download.
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For the ones who use Reclock: Slysoft took over the program and made a new beta version for now! Look at their site to download.
How about adding a link to the thread in their forum about it?

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"Lock back buffer" helps reduce tearing and "YUV mixing" reduces bandwidth usage in the GPU by using the YUV color space for video mixing.
For "Direct3D Fullscreen mode" try using MPC HC internal shortcuts, it should help.
The Hardware Acceleration your card supports is only motion compensation if you're talking about H264 videos and it's hard to implement such feature in MPC HC.
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