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Old 11th May 2008, 20:11   #661  |  Link
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saint-francis, I fixed the problem with the spanish subtitle. The japanese one is a bit more difficult because I'll have to change quite a bit to support top-to-bottom characters, but I started working on that.
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Old 12th May 2008, 02:13   #662  |  Link
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saint-francis, I fixed the problem with the spanish subtitle. The japanese one is a bit more difficult because I'll have to change quite a bit to support top-to-bottom characters, but I started working on that.
Woah nice. Thanks. Now does suprip convert DB .sup to HD DVD .sup like supread does? Honestly that's all I use supread for.
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Old 19th May 2008, 20:34   #663  |  Link
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For smoothly playback I change my HD-Content from 23.976 fps to 25 fps (PAL-Speedup).
Is there a Solution to correct the time of the suptitles (SRT or SUP), because later this step, there shown at the wrong position.
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Old 19th May 2008, 21:52   #664  |  Link
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dorati> I think thar SubtitleCreator might be able to correct the SUP subtitles and any subtitle editor (Subtitle Workshop, SubtitleTool CZ, SubRip etc.) I can think of can easily speed up SRT subtitles.
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Old 20th May 2008, 15:43   #665  |  Link
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thx for replay - i will test.

Is there a programm, with shows me only "Forced" - Suptitles in a SUP File from HD-Movies ??

I think,
- SUPread has no Option for this.
- SupRip has this Option - but still not work correct
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Old 20th May 2008, 16:38   #666  |  Link
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indeed, better support for forced subs would be much appreciated
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Old 20th May 2008, 17:29   #667  |  Link
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hi pelican9

i hope you have time to fix a small problem.

the subtitle in the movie "War" (german RC2). i can load it but i cant export to hd-dvd.sup.
when try this, supread crash.

i load up the bluray.sup so you can have a look at the file.

http://rapidshare.com/files/11630849...g-org.rar.html

thanks for your programm...


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Old 21st May 2008, 14:39   #668  |  Link
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@vlada
thx for replay - i will test.

Is there a programm, with shows me only "Forced" - Suptitles in a SUP File from HD-Movies ??

I think,
- SUPread has no Option for this.
- SupRip has this Option - but still not work correct
Can you upload the .sup file somewhere? I still need a good example of a subtitle that has working forced subs.

Good = not a movie that claims to have forced subtitle but I end up finding out that they are either hardcoded into the video stream or only display if all subtitles are on.

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Old 21st May 2008, 17:31   #669  |  Link
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http://www.megaupload.com/?d=AXH19YVC
Suptitle 1 and 21 must be forced.
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Old 11th June 2008, 21:19   #670  |  Link
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Hello Pelican, your program is very great
Can you insert the french character in the matrice =>



Thank you very very much !!!!
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Old 5th July 2008, 17:18   #671  |  Link
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Hello Pelican, your program is very great
Can you insert the french character in the matrice =>



Thank you very very much !!!!
Oh yes yes... + 1 !!!

When can we hope a new "abc.png" (and corresponding SUPread) ??

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Old 13th July 2008, 11:45   #672  |  Link
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Hi,
3 french in this post, one more with me

thanks for the job

hope a new abc...(french character)

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Old 21st July 2008, 00:16   #673  |  Link
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Seem to have a critical error when starting Suprip 0.96:

Code:
arrayLine is 24 instead of 26

Void .ctor(System.String)

   at SupRip.SubtitleFont..ctor(String fontname)
   at SupRip.MainForm..ctor()
   at SupRip.Program.Main(String[] args)
Is there any way to fix?

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Old 21st July 2008, 01:05   #674  |  Link
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Weird, that shouldn't happen.

Go to Start->Run, then enter "%appdata%\suprip" (without the "")

In the directory that then comes up, delete the default.font.txt file.

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Seem to have a critical error when starting Suprip 0.96:

Code:
arrayLine is 24 instead of 26

Void .ctor(System.String)

   at SupRip.SubtitleFont..ctor(String fontname)
   at SupRip.MainForm..ctor()
   at SupRip.Program.Main(String[] args)
Is there any way to fix?

Cheers,

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Old 21st July 2008, 05:50   #675  |  Link
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Taktaal would it be possible for you to add the functionality in suprip to convert BD .sup to HDDVD .sup? It seems like development has ceased on supread and this format conversion is an important part of it for in turn converting the subtitles to vobsub format. You appear to be doing a really good job of keeping your tool up to date. Thanks at any rate for being so responsive to issues people are having.
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Problem fixed, thanks Taktaal :-)

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Taktaal would it be possible for you to add the functionality in suprip to convert BD .sup to HDDVD .sup? It seems like development has ceased on supread and this format conversion is an important part of it for in turn converting the subtitles to vobsub format. You appear to be doing a really good job of keeping your tool up to date. Thanks at any rate for being so responsive to issues people are having.
The problem is that it's relatively easy to decode a file format by reverse engineering it, but a lot harder to encode something in a valid enough way that official players don't choke on it.

If I ever implement sup encoding, it's going to be to the Bluray format anyway since the HD-DVD is dead...
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The problem is that it's relatively easy to decode a file format by reverse engineering it, but a lot harder to encode something in a valid enough way that official players don't choke on it.

If I ever implement sup encoding, it's going to be to the Bluray format anyway since the HD-DVD is dead...
All very valid points you make. The issue is that there is no other way to get BD .sup to vobsub format. Maybe SubtitleCreator will someday support the conversion like it does now for HDDVD .sup but until then if we want to retain things like placement of subtitles we need to convert BD .sup to HDDVD .sup first. I guess this will just be a waiting game for those like me who aren't programmers and can't write the code themselves. Honestly the best solution IMO for the end user would be for vobsub to be able to work with BD just like it can with DVD but vobsub development has slowed to a crawl. It's great that supread can keep the resolution of HD subtitles but we are still limited by what the OCR technology can give us and the way that such subtitles don't retain the original placement of subtitles which are placed in unconventional places on the screen. None the less I applaud you in being the only person developing HD subtitles ripping technology.
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Old 26th July 2008, 21:32   #679  |  Link
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@Taktaal, I get the following error message when trying to OCR a sup file. I'm using 0.96

"Exception of type 'SupRip.SubtitleImage+EndOfImageReachedException' was thrown."

at SupRip.SubtitleImage.ColumnContainsPixels(Byte[,] image, Int32 column, Int32 limit, Double angle, Int32 y1, Int32 y2)
at SupRip.SubtitleImage.FindLetters()
at SupRip.SubtitleImage.CreateSubtitleArray()
at SupRip.SubtitleFile.GetSubtitleImage(Int32 n)
at SupRip.MainForm.ImageOCR(Int32 n, Boolean reportUnknownCharacter)
at SupRip.OcrThread.Run()
at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.Run(ExecutionContext executionContext, ContextCallback callback, Object state)
at System.Threading.ThreadHelper.ThreadStart()
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Old 5th August 2008, 20:49   #680  |  Link
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Since this thread is huge, I'm sorry if my question has been answered earlier, but here I go:

Is there any way to create a Blu-ray compatible SUP file from BDN XML and 8-bit PNGs without using Scenarist or other complete Blu-ray authoring programs?

I have generated the BDN XML and PNG images with an experimental program and would like if I could turn the BDN XML and images into a SUP fast & easy.

EDIT: Man, I just noticed this:
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The problem is that it's relatively easy to decode a file format by reverse engineering it, but a lot harder to encode something in a valid enough way that official players don't choke on it.

If I ever implement sup encoding, it's going to be to the Bluray format anyway since the HD-DVD is dead...
So apparently a fast way doesn't exist, then. Oh well. Any ideas would be nice though.
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