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Old 28th December 2007, 13:41   #2801  |  Link
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I don't use MPC, so I can't really help.

but MPC HC is supposed to work fine.

KMP does.......except for the damn ffdshow random freezes...
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Old 28th December 2007, 13:52   #2802  |  Link
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KMP does.......except for the damn ffdshow random freezes...
Isn't KMP build with most ffdshow filters?
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Old 28th December 2007, 13:59   #2803  |  Link
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I have disabled them all

here's my KMP filtergraph for 720p mkv :

[Primary Filtergraph]
0) - KMP Matroska Reader
1) - CoreAVC Video Decoder
2) - KMP AVI<->AC3/DTS Transform
3) - ffdshow raw video filter (to do lanczos resize)
4) - Sonic Cinemaster® Audio Decoder 4.2
5) - KMP Video Transform
6) - Enhanced Video Renderer(C/A)
7) - DirectSound: SB X-Fi Audio [C080]

If I take off the "ffdshow raw video filter", no more freezes..

and same problem for a friend of mine using MPC HC+EVR+COREAVC..

there's infos about EVR here:

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms703040.aspx

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/lib...07(VS.85).aspx
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Old 28th December 2007, 17:29   #2804  |  Link
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I have disabled them all

here's my KMP filtergraph for 720p mkv :

[Primary Filtergraph]
0) - KMP Matroska Reader
1) - CoreAVC Video Decoder
2) - KMP AVI<->AC3/DTS Transform
3) - ffdshow raw video filter (to do lanczos resize)
4) - Sonic Cinemaster® Audio Decoder 4.2
5) - KMP Video Transform
6) - Enhanced Video Renderer(C/A)
7) - DirectSound: SB X-Fi Audio [C080]

If I take off the "ffdshow raw video filter", no more freezes..

and same problem for a friend of mine using MPC HC+EVR+COREAVC..

there's infos about EVR here:

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms703040.aspx

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/lib...07(VS.85).aspx
How do you insert ffdshow raw filter inside a KMP graph? There are options to change the video decoders but I haven't found a way to add a postprocessor such as ffdshow. Thanks for your help.
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Old 28th December 2007, 17:34   #2805  |  Link
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I have disabled them all

here's my KMP filtergraph for 720p mkv :

[Primary Filtergraph]

If I take off the "ffdshow raw video filter", no more freezes..
If you don't use the KMP prostprocessor filter. You can remove it from the chain and gain a big speed boost. To do that you have to to turn on the "super speed mode".
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Old 28th December 2007, 17:46   #2806  |  Link
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well I don't use the ffdshow options of KMP, but I do use the "basic" sharpen filter

to force ffdshow raw filter go to /decoder usage/custom filter manager/ then add ffdshow and tick "use forcibly"

that really bugs me to go back to Haali's Renderer with its crappy BT601/709 management and its not so great 3D depth
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Old 28th December 2007, 18:00   #2807  |  Link
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I solved my AAC problem.
It seems like the problem occurs on checking the "enable multichannel processing" option in the Winamp2 page.
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Old 28th December 2007, 19:54   #2808  |  Link
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Starting from around build 1704(Build 1703 doesn't), turning OSD on when playing mpeg1/2 video files crashes the player.
I mean any mpeg files from vcd to 1080i/p.

edit: just updated to clsid's icl10 bulid 1732, and osd works again.

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Old 28th December 2007, 22:51   #2809  |  Link
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could my freezing problem be related to the "Queue output samples" being disabled ?

I'm gonna turn nuts anytime soon with these random freezes, and that fantastic PQ thanks to EVR
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Old 29th December 2007, 14:06   #2810  |  Link
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Just want to say ive no Problmes anymore with 1080p H(x)264and ffdshowVideoDecoder.

I had Problems with choppy playback and constant Audio Delay.

I could solved ALL my Problems with my new ATI HD 3870 Card!

- ffdshow 1080p H264 plays now abolutly smooth
-VC1 from HDDVD plays now smooth . I wasnt able to play it before

All these Problmes was caused by my old AGP x800xt Card
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Old 29th December 2007, 15:02   #2811  |  Link
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It's bizzare that upgrading the video card would help that tbh, since ffdshow doesn't use GPU acceleration. The renderer possibly uses it for resize/scaling though.
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Old 29th December 2007, 15:08   #2812  |  Link
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could my freezing problem be related to the "Queue output samples" being disabled ?
Thank you. I can reproduce using MPC Homecinema.
It's a bug in IFilterGraph::FindFilterByName (DirectShow or the OS).
I gave up using that API. I'm implementing alternative method.
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Old 29th December 2007, 15:32   #2813  |  Link
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that's good news, arigato haruhiko

what's an ETA on having a fixed ffdshow version ?

I will also ask the KMP coder if he can update his internal ffdshow routines with yours...will you make the source code available ?

just FYI, it freezes exactly the same way if I enable the "Queue output samples" option.

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Old 29th December 2007, 17:49   #2814  |  Link
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can someone please explain me whats with version number 1733:

"H.264: disable multithreading for spatial direct mode plus interlacing.
fix rev 1726."

so is multithreading for some h264 modes disabled now? whats the reason for that, some display errors? and then 1734 fixes this again ? :S (im puzzled)
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Old 29th December 2007, 17:54   #2815  |  Link
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Interlaced pictures + spatial direct mode is not implemented in ffmpeg so it doesn't work.
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It's bizzare that upgrading the video card would help that tbh, since ffdshow doesn't use GPU acceleration. The renderer possibly uses it for resize/scaling though.
yes...however, other Decoders like cyberlink, are now decoding much more faster.
VC1 decoding with WMVideodecoder is 100% smooth with low CPU Usage

I wasnt able to play VC1 from BR/HD with my old AGP x800 card

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Old 29th December 2007, 17:57   #2817  |  Link
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It's bizzare that upgrading the video card would help that tbh, since ffdshow doesn't use GPU acceleration.
Near year ago I made some tests with GPU Acceleration, software competitors was CoreAVC and ffdshow. CPU usage on new videocards (7600GT/7900GT/X1300/X1650/X1900) was near the same, but on 6600 it was higher by 10-15% (not only with ffdshow, bul also with PowerDVD and CoreAVC).....
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Old 29th December 2007, 18:04   #2818  |  Link
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yes...however, other Decoders like cyberlink, are now decoding much more faster.
VC1 decoding with WMVideodecoder is 100% smooth with low CPU Usage

I wasnt able to play VC1 from BR/HD with my old AGP x800 card
yeah same here.

PCI-E is a lot smoother than AGP for HD
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Old 30th December 2007, 00:03   #2819  |  Link
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A whitelist/blacklist for DirectShow filters that ffdshow is allowed to connect with in a graph.

I think this may be particularly useful when raw video is enabled in ffdshow.

Any opinions?
clsid, I think this is a great idea! I hacked an older version of ffdshow nearly a year ago to prevent RAW ffdshow from loading when using CoreAVC. That way, I could play DVDs with ffdshow's upscaling and AVISynth filters, yet also play h.264/AVC 1080p movies without the overhead of ffdshow. Profiles are useless to me, because if ffdshow loads, it still has the processor overhead.
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Old 30th December 2007, 11:18   #2820  |  Link
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yeah same here.

PCI-E is a lot smoother than AGP for HD
Yeah.. it think its the AGP Bus.

Mus be around 15-20% more Perfomance with all Decoders on HD 1080p (Software Mode) with my HD3870 PCI-E compared with the old X800XT AGP

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