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Old 5th October 2007, 22:26   #1  |  Link
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How do you remux Spiderman 2 BD?

Oh boy....

I bought the spidey trilogy on BD (luckily for me it's released here quite a bit earlier than it is in the US). The first movie I've ripped to HD & remuxed using the usual tools - no problems.

However, Spidey 2 represents a new problem. The disc has both spidey 2 & 2.1 and uses seamless branching EXTENSIVELY. Whereas in the past I've been able to use xport or TsRemux to extract the audio or video files from the one or two main m2ts files, on this disc there are a LOT more than just 2 files. I will try to attach a file showing the list of files in the STREAM sub-directory. It's not a complete list, but those files out of the picture are pretty small - the picture is enough so you get the idea.

I'm hoping a solution can be found to handle this, but I'm guessing it's going to take some time. If anyone can show me some other way of doing this I'd be very grateful.

On the other hand, if there's any further information I can provide to the developers of those (or other) tools, I'm happy to help.
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Old 8th October 2007, 13:04   #2  |  Link
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I too am trying to figure this out, I can tell you how to get the files joined into one useable m2ts file but I don't know how to figure out what order they go in without manually opening each one and figuring it out.

In order to join, just use the "copy /b 000001.m2ts + 000002.m2ts + ..... JoinedMovie.m2ts" command from a command prompt to join the files. This will produce a single m2ts file but you need to remove the stream end flags to fix the timecodes, simply run the file through TSRemux to achieve this.
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Old 8th October 2007, 13:28   #3  |  Link
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I too am trying to figure this out, I can tell you how to get the files joined into one useable m2ts file but I don't know how to figure out what order they go in without manually opening each one and figuring it out.

In order to join, just use the "copy /b 000001.m2ts + 000002.m2ts + ..... JoinedMovie.m2ts" command from a command prompt to join the files. This will produce a single m2ts file but you need to remove the stream end flags to fix the timecodes, simply run the file through TSRemux to achieve this.
hi there,
as for which parts belong together in which order, use bdedit and look at each m2ts file. there will be one which shows the parts needed in which order (i did that for deja vu).
as for copy /b - i have better results if i apply that to the elementary streams (audio, video) then remux.
hope this helps
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Old 8th October 2007, 15:06   #4  |  Link
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It would be nice if the user who figured out the correct order (and which of those files actually belong to the main feature) posted his findings. Thanks.
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Old 8th October 2007, 15:47   #5  |  Link
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Well I've used BDEdit on the source files and found two playlists for the main movie, I assume the longer one is Spiderman 2.1. The comand for joining the longer of the two is:

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copy /b 00000.m2ts + 00005.m2ts + 00006.m2ts + 00008.m2ts + 00009.m2ts + 00016.m2ts + 00017.m2ts + 00055.m2ts + 00056.m2ts + 00022.m2ts + 00023.m2ts + 00024.m2ts + 00025.m2ts + 00026.m2ts + 00027.m2ts + 00030.m2ts + 00031.m2ts + 00032.m2ts + 00033.m2ts + 00057.m2ts + 00103.m2ts + 00050.m2ts F:\sm2.m2ts
Save this as a .bat or .cmd file and place it in the same folder as all of your m2ts files. Obviously replace the F:\ with whatever drive you want the output to be.

The other playlist is as so:
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copy /b 00001.m2ts + 00005.m2ts + 00007.m2ts + 00008.m2ts + 00010.m2ts + 00016.m2ts + 00038.m2ts + 00055.m2ts + 00054.m2ts + 00022.m2ts + 00041.m2ts + 00024.m2ts + 00042.m2ts + 00026.m2ts + 00043.m2ts + 00030.m2ts + 00045.m2ts + 00032.m2ts + 00046.m2ts + 00057.m2ts + 00058.m2ts + 00050.m2ts F:\sm2.m2ts

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Old 9th October 2007, 01:26   #6  |  Link
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idbirch2,

Thanks so much for doing the legwork for this. However, once all the pieces are joined into one .m2ts file....


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but you need to remove the stream end flags to fix the timecodes, simply run the file through TSRemux to achieve this.
Exactly how do I "run the file through TSRemux" to remove the stream end flags? Do you mean just remux the joined m2ts to output a new m2ts file? Are there any extra settings that need to be selected?
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Old 9th October 2007, 04:57   #7  |  Link
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@idbirch2

Thanks for doing the work, appreciate it.

I've noticed you're concat'ing to "F:\sm3.m2ts". So is that Spiderman 2 or Spiderman 3?

@Roscoe62

Just remux, don't change anything (unless you want to exclude some audio tracks, for example).

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Old 9th October 2007, 07:06   #8  |  Link
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Ah, well spotted honai, just a typo there, Spiderman 3 doesn't have any seamless branching, it's all in one m2ts file. Editted post to avoid confusion.
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Old 10th October 2007, 22:14   #9  |  Link
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OK, well I can confirm this method is working well. I ended up with the joined .m2ts file, remuxed it to another .m2ts file with TSRemux. From there I used xport to extract the video file and the TruHD audio file.

I muxed the video into a matroska container making sure to include the timecodes.txt file to ensure a 23.976 framerate. I used EAC3to to convert the TruHD audio track into a multi-channel .wav file and muxed that and the video into a new mkv file.

Only problem now is the audio starts off in sync, but by the end of the movie the audio is more than a second ahead of the video.

I don't know if I've done anything incorrectly or if there's a way to fix this problem.

Has anyone else remuxed this to mkv? If so, is your audio OK?
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Old 10th October 2007, 22:39   #10  |  Link
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I have exactly the same issue after a slightly different procedure. I joined into a single m2ts file and then re-encoded the video using HCEnc to MPEG2. I then extracted the audio using TSRemux and converted it to AC3 using eac3to. After muxing the MPEG2 video with the a3 audio, I have good sync at the start and completely out by the end. I did sit down and work out which join it lost sync at but I can't remember what it was now.

The problem is with tsremux, it is not joining properly. I had exactly the same problem with Alien Vs Predator and had to spend quite some time manually snipping bits out and joining back together to achieve sync.

For Spiderman 2, I have re-encoded each m2ts file seperately and extracted the audio for each m2ts seperately too. I then muxed each of the 22 .m2v and .ac3 files into seperate .ts files and then joined them. No sync issues now.

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Old 10th October 2007, 23:10   #11  |  Link
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Thanks for posting back.

OK, so you've got a solution - even if it does involve a bit of work.

3 questions...

1) What tool are you using to mux each of the audio/video files into a ts file?

2) Can the tool handle AVC video, or only MPEG2?

3) Can the tool handle other audio formats - I personally used multi-channel wav, but I don't know whether ts will handle that. (trying to keep the audio lossless)

I'd prefer keeping the AVC video, but I'll convert to MPEG2 if I have to.
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Old 10th October 2007, 23:15   #12  |  Link
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Looks like I jumped the gun, my final .ts file is also having sync issues The (correction) 22 sperate .ts file are all synced perfectly but when I join them the sync issue is back.

I used Manzanita for muxing, it only supports MPEG2. If I can find a method that works properly, I'll post back. You won't have to re-encode to MPEG2 if you don't want, the key is to process each m2ts seperately, regardless of how you process it.
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Old 11th October 2007, 00:04   #13  |  Link
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Thanks idbirch2,

Let us know how you get on.
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Old 11th October 2007, 00:14   #14  |  Link
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try muxing the joined m2ts file with gdsmux to .mkv (deselect the audio tracks if you want to convert them with eac3to; LPCM generally doesnt work with gdsmux) instead of using tsremux. maybe this helps. mux to .mkv and then another mux with mkvmerge with the timecodes file.
if this doesnt helptry to alter the muxed fps rate of the video to 23.9755 or 23.9765 or something like that. experiment with it.

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Old 11th October 2007, 00:52   #15  |  Link
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Well I've managed to get my MPEG2 re-encode in sync. I joined the 22 aforementioned .ts files with a program called TSSplitter. The resulting .ts would only show up as about 25 minutes in any playback app though so I ran it through a few remuxing apps and the only one I could find which fixed the timecodes and didn't skew audio was TSRemux!

Roscoe, if Thuderbolt's advice does not work, try processing each m2ts seperatley, joining the resulting files together and then running it through TSRemux.
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can tssplitter also handle .m2ts files to join the same way as normal .ts files ?
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I honestly dont know. I'm sure I've used TSSplitter to join some .001, .002 etc files in the past and I think it will just join anything you tell it to, give it a try and let us know how it goes.
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I mean im quite sure it'll do that, but what I meant was will the result be allright regarding the delay, as there is also no delay caused by this using normal .ts files
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Very interesting thread. I encountered the same problem as Roscoe. Remuxed video shows 2:15:48, as remuxed audio is 2:15:47...

idbirch2, I saw the time length of your working MPEG2 TS remux seems to be 2:15:43... Did you cut something manually in the process ?

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Hi Darth, no, no cutting of any sort. Any difference in the duration will be due to processing the files seperately and then joining afterwards. Don't forget I have re-encoded both the video and audio and then remuxed them, a difference of a few seconds on a movie over 2 hours wasn't unexpected.
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