GKnot DivX3- No Sound (Mp3)

billyball2 · 16th February 2002, 02:33

Apoligies for what seems to be a standard question, but I don't get any sound in my DivX3 GKnot files. The picture quality is great, but after three attempts, I still get no sound. I'm a total newbie and have been glued to the Guide, and I've read the forum, but nothing is working. I hate to think I need to be "baby-stepped" through this any more than the guide already does, but I'm getting frustrated.

Now that I have a 600meg movie file and 300 meg ac3 file, is there any way to get them together into one 705 meg file?

Thanks for any help you can provide.

My last log:
02/15/2002 2:31:54 PM: Job "Evolut" started.

o Transcode AC3 -> MP3: C:\Documents and Settings\home\Desktop\Output\Evol AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.ac3
o DivX3-Single, DRF 12: C:\Documents and Settings\home\Desktop\Output\Evol_Credits.avs
o DivX3-First Pass: C:\Documents and Settings\home\Desktop\Output\Evol.avs
o DivX3-Second Pass: C:\Documents and Settings\home\Desktop\Output\Evol.avs
o Append Credits.
o Delete Intermediate Files.
End of Job 1 (Evolut).
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Gordian Knot 0.23.0.17
Encoding Job Data:

Type: EncD3_Both_CreditsSep
Number: 1
Name: Evolut
Platform: Win2000 (5.0.2195).2

Files:
VirtualDubExe: C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\virtualdub\Virtualdub.exe
NandubExe: C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\nandub\Nandub.exe
AviFinal: C:\Documents and Settings\home\Desktop\Output\Evol.avi
AviMovie: C:\Documents and Settings\home\Desktop\Output\Evol_Movie.avi
AviCredits: C:\Documents and Settings\home\Desktop\Output\Evol_Credits.avi
MovieFS: C:\Documents and Settings\home\Desktop\Output\Evol.avs
CreditsFS: C:\Documents and Settings\home\Desktop\Output\Evol_Credits.avs
Log : C:\Documents and Settings\home\Desktop\Output\Evol.log
Stats: C:\Documents and Settings\home\Desktop\Output\Evol.stats
Ecf : C:\Documents and Settings\home\Desktop\Output\Evol.ecf

Options:
Quality/DRF: 12
CreditsStart: 138448
UseEcf: 1
CreditsIVTC: 0
CreditsAppend: 1
DeleteInterm.: 1
EnforceBitrate:0
AntiShit: 0

Calculator:
VideoSize: 611625 kbyte.
Audio1Size: 95359 kbyte.
Audio2Size: 0 kbyte.
Overhead: 14935 kbyte.
AviSize: 721920 kbyte (705 mbyte).
FilesSize: 0 kbyte.
TotalSize: 721920 kbyte (705 mbyte).
Interleaving: 2vbrmp3
Bitrate: 802 k(=1024)Bits/s
Frames: 146325
FPS: 23.976
Duration: 1:41:43
Quality: 0.207 bits/(pixel*frame).
CompCheck3: 0.489 bits/(pixel*frame).
CompCheck4: 0.000 bits/(pixel*frame).
Resolution: 544 x 304

Audio 1:
mode: ac3 -> mp3
sourceFile: C:\Documents and Settings\home\Desktop\Output\Evol AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.ac3
wavFile: C:\Documents and Settings\home\Desktop\Output\Evol AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.wav
mp3File: C:\Documents and Settings\home\Desktop\Output\Evol AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.mp3
azid: "-z1 -b1 -c normal -3db"
lame: "--alt preset 128"
delay: 0
interval: 2
preload: 500
mux: 1
recalc: 1
deleteWav: 1

Audio 2:
none.

2:31:54 PM: Started Transcoding Audio.

2:31:54 PM: Azid: Trying to find maximum gain value for C:\Documents and Settings\home\Desktop\Output\Evol AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.ac3
Commandline: C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\azid.exe -z1 -b1 -c normal -3db -g 30dB -N "C:\Documents and Settings\home\Desktop\Output\Evol AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.ac3"
2:31:54 PM: Azid: Finished. Duration: 0 seconds.

2:31:54 PM: Azid: Decoding C:\Documents and Settings\home\Desktop\Output\Evol AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.ac3
2:31:54 PM: Azid: Using gain -g 29.9dB
Commandline: C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\azid.exe -z1 -b1 -c normal -3db -g 29.9dB "C:\Documents and Settings\home\Desktop\Output\Evol AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.ac3" "C:\Documents and Settings\home\Desktop\Output\Evol AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.wav"
2:31:54 PM: Finished. Duration: 0 seconds.

2:31:54 PM: LAME: Encoding C:\Documents and Settings\home\Desktop\Output\Evol AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.wav
Commandline: C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\lame.exe --alt preset 128 "C:\Documents and Settings\home\Desktop\Output\Evol AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.wav" "C:\Documents and Settings\home\Desktop\Output\Evol AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.mp3"
2:31:54 PM: Finished. Duration: 0 seconds.

2:31:54 PM: Deleting Wav-File.
2:31:54 PM: Problem: Could not delete C:\Documents and Settings\home\Desktop\Output\Evol_Movie.avi

2:31:54 PM: Audio Done.
2:31:54 PM: ERROR: MP3-File-Size is zero! Transcoding failed.
2:31:54 PM: ERROR: Will not recalculate bitrate! - Maybe you can add audio later...
2:31:54 PM: Audio 1, determined: 0 kb
2:31:54 PM: Audio 1, calc: 95359 kb

jggimi · 16th February 2002, 03:33

I see the problem!

Your Azid parameters are incorrect. (Your Lame parameters are also incorrect, but you don't get that far.)

Your Azid parameters: -z1 -b1 -c normal -3db
Doom9's recommendation: -z1 -b1 -c normal -L -3db

You've also mis-spelled --alt-preset for your Lame parameter. I've done it too.

Hope this helps.

jggimi · 16th February 2002, 03:38

Forgot to mention:

You don't have to re-run your entire GKnot job. You can just re-encode audio only, then interleave the mp3 into the avi with Nandub manually. Doom9 has a guide for that.

Use the Encoder tab and "Add Job" ... then select Audio 1 tab.

billyball2 · 16th February 2002, 04:02

Sigh... User error. I knew it was probably something simple that I missed, but by the third time through my mind wasn't able to troubleshoot anything properly. Thanks for the help jggimi!!! I'll post on Sunday and let you know how it turns out.

billyball2 · 18th February 2002, 04:43

Thanks again for the help. I now have video AND audio. Not bad for my first (successful) time. I'm now on to DivX 4!

neo_sapien · 18th February 2002, 08:58

You'd do well to stay with DivX 3. The output on DivX 4 comes out a tad blurrier than with 3, something they might fix by 4.5, or they might not. Then again, it's trial and error when you're just getting started, so try DivX 4 if you'd like.

billyball2 · 18th February 2002, 17:12

LOL!! I should have stayed on line a little longer. I just looked at Men In Black, which I did in DivX 4 last night, and I noticed it was a little blurry! It's not BAD by any means, but there's a definite difference in sharpness compared to the Evolution movie that I did in DivX3.

I used Soft Bicubic both times (for no particular reason), so do you think using Neutral Bicubic would make up for the difference? What settings do you guys use (and why)?

jggimi · 18th February 2002, 23:22

you can search for "bicubic" and see lots of comments... but I'll net out the general consensus. Since this is a vague generality, you should take it as such.

DivX4 encoders who post here seem to generally recommend Sharp for 2CD or greater encodings, and Neutral for 1CD. Reason? Sharp looks better to many people, but compresses less well as Neutral. You can test compressability with different filters (compressabily check) prior to encoding.

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jggimi Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The NW corner of Lake Erie Posts: 5,552	I see the problem! Your Azid parameters are incorrect. (Your Lame parameters are also incorrect, but you don't get that far.) Your Azid parameters: -z1 -b1 -c normal -3db Doom9's recommendation: -z1 -b1 -c normal -L -3db You've also mis-spelled --alt-preset for your Lame parameter. I've done it too. Hope this helps.

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16th February 2002, 03:38	#3 \| Link
jggimi Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The NW corner of Lake Erie Posts: 5,552	Forgot to mention: You don't have to re-run your entire GKnot job. You can just re-encode audio only, then interleave the mp3 into the avi with Nandub manually. Doom9 has a guide for that. Use the Encoder tab and "Add Job" ... then select Audio 1 tab.

16th February 2002, 04:02	#4 \| Link
billyball2 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: FL Posts: 13	Sigh... User error. I knew it was probably something simple that I missed, but by the third time through my mind wasn't able to troubleshoot anything properly. Thanks for the help jggimi!!! I'll post on Sunday and let you know how it turns out.

18th February 2002, 04:43	#5 \| Link
billyball2 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: FL Posts: 13	Thanks again for the help. I now have video AND audio. Not bad for my first (successful) time. I'm now on to DivX 4!

18th February 2002, 08:58	#6 \| Link
neo_sapien Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: USA Posts: 249	You'd do well to stay with DivX 3. The output on DivX 4 comes out a tad blurrier than with 3, something they might fix by 4.5, or they might not. Then again, it's trial and error when you're just getting started, so try DivX 4 if you'd like.

18th February 2002, 17:12	#7 \| Link
billyball2 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: FL Posts: 13	LOL!! I should have stayed on line a little longer. I just looked at Men In Black, which I did in DivX 4 last night, and I noticed it was a little blurry! It's not BAD by any means, but there's a definite difference in sharpness compared to the Evolution movie that I did in DivX3. I used Soft Bicubic both times (for no particular reason), so do you think using Neutral Bicubic would make up for the difference? What settings do you guys use (and why)?

18th February 2002, 23:22	#8 \| Link
jggimi Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The NW corner of Lake Erie Posts: 5,552	you can search for "bicubic" and see lots of comments... but I'll net out the general consensus. Since this is a vague generality, you should take it as such. DivX4 encoders who post here seem to generally recommend Sharp for 2CD or greater encodings, and Neutral for 1CD. Reason? Sharp looks better to many people, but compresses less well as Neutral. You can test compressability with different filters (compressabily check) prior to encoding.