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Originally Posted by madshi
(1) Why is there more flickering with BFI turned *OFF* compared to turned *ON*? Normally BFI introduces flickering, it doesn't remove/reduce it!
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My bad, I should had added "visible" because when BFI is on, the flickering is so fast that my brain can barely pick up. For instance if I enable the TV menu that has a light blue background, I can definitely see the obvious flicker when BFI is disabled, but when it's enabled the picture is far more "stable"...to the point that I really have to stare & focus to see the BFI flicker.
The only problem with BFI to my eyes is high contrast, like white lettering on black background or the opposite(TV channel logos or windows desktop icons for instance). In those cases, it does indeed flicker like RBE's but without the funky colors. OTOH it's a real treat for computer use if there's no high contrast taking place.
Anyway, BFI is great on 1080i50 HD DVB-T and it's a TV set in the first place so that definitely improves the TV viewing.
I'm going to try that supposedly non-flickering BenQ GW2760HS and if that fails(I'm doubtful but youtube videos speak a millions words), I'll go back to that TV set with BFI enabled for windows use & TV and no-BFI for mVR's FRC.
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Originally Posted by madshi
(2) When you're talking about "24p judder", do you mean the judder that the lower framerate of 24fps naturally comes with? If so, 24p@60Hz + mVR FRC should show it exactly the same way. If 24p@60Hz + mVR FRC is smoother for you than the native 24Hz modes of your display, then I would bet on that your display doesn't handle 24Hz "correctly", instead it probably does a 3:2 pulldown internally. If that is the case, what you're seeing is not "24p judder", but instead 3:2 pulldown judder introduced by your display handling 24p input in a bad way. If you had a display which handles 24Hz input correctly, it should be just as smooth as 24p@60Hz + mVR FRC is.
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I know what dropped/dupped frames and 3:2 pull down look like.......I've tried a whole bunch of non-broken 1:1 displays and to my eyes -even on a 96.000Hz CRT- mVR's FRC does improve the 24p smoothness. Basically the blurring makes the 24p cadence smoother. Yes it's still 24p but its cadence is less visible and that drastically improves the subjective pop effect to my eyes.
When I first tried this feature, I really hated the blurring but after my brain got the hang of it(and I believe learned to ignore it) it just looks less syncopated and "smoother". You blend the frames and it makes them look less "mechanical", the "dinosaur walk" cadence becomes far less obvious. I believe that's the best analogy I can find to explain what I see
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Originally Posted by madshi
I've said it right from the start: The higher the refresh rate, and the lower the framerate, the better smooth motion FRC works. I might be able to improve the smoothness when framerate and refresh rate are near to each other, but if I do so, it will cost quite a bit more sharpness in moving parts of the image.
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Oh well, I'm currently typing this on one of those TV sets but this one has a crappy panel and it's less responsive and less contrasty than the one I had before.....the blurring is pretty annoying to tell you the truth, but blurring is not much of an issue on a properly driven A-MVA panel.
Anyway, I want frames blending and it will blur the PQ by design I think.....OTOH, if you have other magic tricks to try, I'll be happy to.