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Old 5th June 2003, 01:50   #9  |  Link
vhelp
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@ dano..

>> KCOP please fix this dreadful quality before next season!!!

They will not fix it!!
I believe that it's a conspericy. I believe that they don't want it
broadcasted at the maximum qality that they would "normaly" air it as..
thanks' in part to the $$$ 's that they are counting on. As you know
they are now selling the series on DVD. I've never actually purchased
a copy nor encoded any of the DVD's. But, Donald Graft had uploaded
a small tiny sample .VOB file (35mb) (encoding issues) and I got my
first taste at what to expect in quality. IMO, I found it very good.
Execpt for the issues w/ IVTC, thanks in part to the Progressive
frames mixed into the Film part, that they inserted (blue screen)
I found out why it was messing up the IVTC encoding. Anyways..

If they hadn't broadcasted ANY of the Star Trek shows (ds9/voy/ent etc)
then, don't expect them to EVER do so in others.

The ONE good thing about the ST Enterprise, is that they are airing it
with good Telecine process. And, as such, the final IVTC method of
Decomb.dll works perfetly. To date, I haven't found any issues what
so ever.

I admit, that ST Enterprise's color space is off. (part of the broad
casters "jimmy" system) And, you can see blocks from this process.
I usually refer to this as "chizel" or "solar flare" Another helper
to this effect is the low bitrate used in airing this show.
Mind you, other shows (non-star trek wise) follow this pattern too, but
not w/ the same level of "jimmy" as in above.. but it's there too.

Altering quality...
I would not recommend messing w/ the color on these shows. I have
found that in doing so, will throw the color space off the table at
times. Messing w/ color on these already reduced "color space" will
only result in poorer quality encodes. Belieave me. I've ben there
and done it. Even lowering the light levels and/or messng w/ the
contrast worsens the final quality.
I've also seen this form of "color" issue w/ DVD titles too. Check
out Red Planet.. this movie, if you mess w/ the colors on it,
will pretty much get you the same symtoms as w/ the tv shows above.
If you go to the "shower" scene, where they are standing and talking
and (just after v. kilmer enters those audo-door) and note how the color changes on the sides of the auto-door, you'll see what I mean.
So, best leave it as it is, and make the best of your encodes.
Instead:

* Consentrate on your IVTC (if you having issues, though, on ST E, you
...shouldn't have any issues w/)
* work w/ a "bitrate" method ie, CQ / CQ_VBR / 2Pass etc
* expore other tweaks and things in TMPG

@ neo_sapien..
As for those PAL region movies/tv shows.. they use a sligtely different
color space. Usually much better than NTSC world. If you want some
demo's of such, get you hands on a copy of The Matrix in PAL.
I could be wrong w/ this movie, but I did see a sample clip of a scene
I was working on and coudn't believe the quality difference of the
color space on that movie. I kept saying to myself, "why are PAL
using this color space, and not NTSC ?" - - not fair. But, the reason
has to do w/ all tech stuff, beyond my willingness to get into, here.

Thats it for now.
-vhelp
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