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Fair enough.
I've uploaded both IFO's from one DVD, dvd structure:
VIDEO_TS.IFO & identical .BUP
VIDEO_TS.VOB 4.5MB
VTS_01_0.IFO & identical .BUP
VTS_01_01.VOB 400MB
The VIDEO_TS.VOB is the one without the audio, seems like a menu, but I still want that as the 'intro' to the main feature. If I load that VOB into vdub, there is NO streams at all, but I can see the video just fine.
I loaded this info IFOEDIT but can't figure out how DVD was authored, I will try to get the details.. this is for a school event, so need to track the parent who actually did it.
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