Looking for a newbie helping c++ board

[Inc]

Hi,

beside developing in Purebasic, in the next time I intend to start getting a bit into c++ developing.
I already googled in the www and found nice sites like the codeproject or so similair where nice pieces of codes and explanations are given.

My detailed question is:
Did the c++ coders of you (when you began) encountered some developer communities/boards related to c++ where they also have moods or an ear for helping newbies which do begin from scratch?

Most c++ boards I found in the www are treating much deeper c++ approaches/workflows.

Dont misunderstand, I do apreciate the answers in this section here and reading tutorials are inevitable, but anyhow its useful to know a specific (NewbieDev.) helping board for c++ (a bonbon would be if maybe in there also a few audio/video programming related subjects are treaten. ;) )

Thanks a lot.

[neuron2]

I don't know of any sites like that, but I don't see why you cannot just use a thread in this Development forum. Just get a good book and then dive in. When you get confused or stuck, make a posting to your thread and I'm sure you'll receive a response pretty quickly.

[movax]

I only had one semester of HS C++ (we stopped at pointers, so basically I learned nothing), the rest I picked up from MSDN samples, MSDN KB, codeproject, similar sites. It worked well for me when I decided what I needed in a particular program, and then went and studied those topics in detail before beginning. :)

[asanted]

If you are going to write programs for microsoft windows, then I suggest you get hold of microsoft visual studio, and maybe start with C#, visual studio will do alot of things for you, oh yes and get a good C book try Kernighan & Ritchie's C programming. And then move on to C++.

[movax]

If you are going to write programs for microsoft windows, then I suggest you get hold of microsoft visual studio, and maybe start with C#, visual studio will do alot of things for you, oh yes and get a good C book try Kernighan & Ritchie's C programming. And then move on to C++.

Why? Going directly to C++ doesn't hurt...C has insane amounts of pointers and etc needed for everything.

[diehardii]

www.codeguru.com

The guys at the website are (typically) very friendly towards people who make a genuine effort to solve their problems.


~Steve

[Inc]

Thanks to you all for the replies! :)

[GaveUp]

Why? Going directly to C++ doesn't hurt...C has insane amounts of pointers and etc needed for everything.

Lots of reasons C can be a better avenue to start with. For one, the procedural style of C is a lot easier for many people to grasp than the C++ style. Two, the pointers and such that you talk about being all over C are still there in C++ and many of the same design issues you'll face in C exist in C++. For example, it's a lot easier to visualize a memory leak caused by returning a char * from a function in C than it would be from a char * returned by a method of a class in C++.

That being said, though, starting with C can make C++ OO style even more difficult to pick up and master. Once you get use to one style of programming it's hard to break old habits and start new ones ... takes a fair bit of work.

[asanted]

Why? Going directly to C++ doesn't hurt...C has insane amounts of pointers and etc needed for everything.

Thanks GaveUP.

When following examples especially those for MS Windows, a strong C background is assumed.
He's got to learn about pointers, that's what objects are all about.

As for growing a dislike for bloated++, I understand that.
I used be an assembler programmer (about 100 years ago), and laughed at the idea that I'd learn and use C, now look, here I am struggling to write a database in C++, for Windows, I hate Windows.

Daniel.

[Kopernikus]

For me the most important step was getting the Object Oriented Style right.

Then the step from a language like Basic to C to C++ is not really a problem.