How to setup AutoGK 2.16 Beta to use Divx 6

[3ncrypted]

Could someone tell me where I can find a tutorial or information on how to setup AutoGK(v2.16 Beta) to work with Divx 6? I've uninstalled Divx, re-installed the create pack, but anything I encode with AutoGK still comes up as Divx 5.0. I see posts where people are using 6, just can't figure out how to get it to work.

[numaios]

DivX 6 uses the same FourCC as DivX 5, so of course the encoded video will be reported as "DivX 5".

The only way to know if a video has been encoded with DivX 6 is analyzing the AVI file with GSpot, for instance, and looking at the metadata section: a DivX 6 video will be reported as "DivX503b1571p" or "DivX503b1594p".
If it was created with DivX Pro 5.2.1, it will say "DivX503b1307m"

[3ncrypted]

Thanks for the info numaios. I've checked and divx 6 has been working the whole time. Just didn't realize it.

[numaios]

You're welcome!

How did you check? With GSpot?

[3ncrypted]

Yes.. GSpot v2.52. It showed 3 lines in the "User Data/Metadata" section with "DivX503b1571p".

[numaios]

Yes.. GSpot v2.52. It showed 3 lines in the "User Data/Metadata" section with "DivX503b1571p".
OK, so everything it's fine :)

[Wesmosis]

so I understand, if I installed Divx6 only and remove any other Divx codecs which come with K-lite Mega codec, then choose Divx in AutoGK
I'll get avi file with Divx6 straight away?
off topic:
do you recommend guyz start encoding our DVDs with the brand new Divx6?!
I'm always using the latest K-lite Mega Codec, is this the right thing?!

[Wesmosis]

this is after 12 hours, any help?

[numaios]

If you install DivX 6 you just can't remove "any other DivX codec", because DivX 6 will have overwritten the last version, so if you do so, you won't have any DivX codec in your machine.

Actually DivX 6 is like an improved version of DivX Pro 5.2.1 (it's fully compatible with SAPs since it uses the same FourCC), so why not to use it?. Another different issue is the full compatibility with DivX Media Format, but you won't find problems if you store DivX 6 in an AVI file.
I personally prefer XviD 1.1 tree.

[Wesmosis]

aha I C, simple like that
but why doom9.org didn't make an COMPLETE giude on Divx6, and compare it with the other giant popular codecs!

[numaios]

But there is a guide! And it explains how to configure all the settings of the new codec (doom9.org-->quick link: DivX5).

And there is also a comparison:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=90784

[jggimi]

Yes, but that's a mathematical comparison (PSNR, etc). Each of Doom9's qualitative codec comparisons took him many weeks to prepare and publish.

[numaios]

OK, and what is better, a mathematical or a qualitative comparison? One is objective and the other is subjective?

Where can I find the last qualitative one?

[jggimi]

Both types of analyses have their limitations -- mathematical analysis is easy to do, but 1) we don't watch video with math, 2) each formula only looks at its particular bit sequences. Watching with eyes includes perceptions; video display, lighting, and other intangibles may affect results.

Take a look at Doom9's qualitative comparisons. http://www.doom9.org/codec-comparisons.htm

But note that in order to make up your own mind, you may have to duplicate his video samples. He's showing you representative stills, not the video that he used. Sometimes you can see the differences in the stills, sometimes, you can't, and you must either trust his reports or run the encodings yourself.

[Edit: clarity]

[numaios]

we don't watch video with math
I totally agree with you :)

Sometimes you can see the differences in the stills, sometimes, you can't
OK... That's because it deppends on which frame type you take the still, isn't it? (I mean it's not the same taking a B-frame than an I-frame).

[jggimi]

No, it has to do with motion in the sequence under study, not the individual still. Read the comparisons... ;)

[Wesmosis]

aha , so when the doom9.org will dig into the Divx6 test world?
man! is is it possible to beat the Xvid? I'm with it for more than 3 years,

[jggimi]

....when the doom9.org will dig into the Divx6 test world?...Doom9 is a single person. I haven't asked him, but I would expect all of this has to be true: There have been sufficient changes to a number of codecs to make investing the time and effort worthwhile.
When the right codec control and encoding tools for each codec are available to make comparisons possible.
When he has a month or more of free time.He has published his specific DVD sources, encoding scripts, and methodologies. If you're impatient, you could do your own. :rolleyes:

[CWR03]

If you're impatient, you could do your own. :rolleyes:

I did, but not out of impatience, but to learn the GordianKnot program and what all the settings can accomplish under different circumstances. As a result I have 50 different presets that I use regularly. The time I invested in running tests has paid off in knowing what settings will result in a product that will look good to me, and as jggimi pointed out that's all that really matters.