Rebuild error, while backing up Hulk

[Zyphon]

Hi Guys,

I was trying to back up The Hulk DVD. Using DVD-RB Pro 1.00 RC5.1

I used 1 click mode and in batch mode. The 2nd movie is The Hulk.

The conversion seemed to go o.k but when I used ImgToolBurn to burn the completed DVDFILES, ITB warned me about a re-allocation error.

I burned it onto a DVD+RW and it did not play on my SAP, however it played on the PC with PowerDVD I am confused.

I know there are 2 PGC's that have the same length in time when I ripped it, do one of these have to be ommited when ripping?

I would appreciate any help in backing this up.

Here is the logfile:

[21:12:18] One Click encoding activated...
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[21:12:19] Phase I, PREPARATION started.
- CCE SP ECLCCE encoder selected.
- AVS Filters are enabled.
- "Steal Space from Extras" mode is enabled.
- VTS_01: 3,285,450 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V & .AVS files
-- Processed 198,639 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_02: 353,932 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V & .AVS files
-- Processed 27,781 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- Reduction Level for DVD-5: 53.7%
- Overall Bitrate : 2,855Kbs
- Space for Video : 3,156,528KB
- Movie improvement from extra reduction = 3.2%
- HIGH/LOW/TYPICAL Bitrates: 3,561/600/2,855 Kbs
[21:22:28] Phase I, PREPARATION completed in 10 minutes.
[21:22:28] Phase II ENCODING started
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-- Encoding resulted in no .M2V, retrying.
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- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 2
-- ERROR: Encoder failed to create .M2V. Aborted.
Aborted.
[10:19:23] One Click encoding activated...
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[10:19:28] Phase I, PREPARATION started.
- CCE SP ECLCCE encoder selected.
- AVS Filters are enabled.
- "Half-D1/Half Space for Extras" mode is enabled.
- "Steal Space from Extras" mode is enabled.
- VTS_01: 66,880 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V & .AVS files
-- Processed 3,671 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_02: 3,293,993 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V & .AVS files
-- Processed 178,690 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- Reduction Level for DVD-5: 64.1%
- Overall Bitrate : 4,361Kbs
- Space for Video : 3,883,194KB
- Movie improvement from extra reduction = 1.4%
- HIGH/LOW/TYPICAL Bitrates: 4,477/1,738/4,361 Kbs
[10:34:24] Phase I, PREPARATION completed in 15 minutes.
[10:34:24] Phase II ENCODING started
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[13:31:02] One Click encoding activated...
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- CCE SP ECLCCE encoder selected.
- AVS Filters are enabled.
- "Half-D1/Half Space for Extras" mode is enabled.
- "Steal Space from Extras" mode is enabled.
- VTS_01: 66,880 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V & .AVS files
-- Processed 3,671 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_02: 3,293,993 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V & .AVS files
-- Processed 178,690 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- Reduction Level for DVD-5: 64.1%
- Overall Bitrate : 4,361Kbs
- Space for Video : 3,883,194KB
- Movie improvement from extra reduction = 1.4%
- HIGH/LOW/TYPICAL Bitrates: 4,477/1,738/4,361 Kbs
[13:39:52] Phase I, PREPARATION completed in 8 minutes.
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[01:33:10] Phase III, REBUILD started.
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[01:55:45] Phase III, REBUILD completed in 22 minutes.

Done.
[01:55:45] PREPARE/ENCODE/REBUILD completed in 744 min.
[01:55:46] One Click encoding activated...
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[01:55:48] Phase I, PREPARATION started.
- CCE SP ECLCCE encoder selected.
- AVS Filters are enabled.
- "Steal Space from Extras" mode is enabled.
- VTS_01: 3,285,450 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V & .AVS files
-- Processed 198,639 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_02: 353,932 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V & .AVS files
-- Processed 27,781 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- Reduction Level for DVD-5: 53.7%
- Overall Bitrate : 2,855Kbs
- Space for Video : 3,156,528KB
- Movie improvement from extra reduction = 3.2%
- HIGH/LOW/TYPICAL Bitrates: 3,561/600/2,855 Kbs
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[16:59:50] PREPARE/ENCODE/REBUILD completed in 904 min.
Batch Job #1 finished in 00744 minutes.
- HIGH/LOW/TYPICAL Bitrates: 4,477/1,738/4,361 Kbs

Batch Job #2 finished in 00904 minutes.
- HIGH/LOW/TYPICAL Bitrates: 3,561/600/2,855 Kbs

[jdobbs]

I'd recommend you output it to an ISO file with DVD Rebuilder and burn it with DVD Decrypter.

[Zyphon]

@jdobbs

Hi Jerry,

Thanks for your quick response. Do you have any idea why this is the only DVD that has given me this error with ImgToolBurn?

I read somewhere on this forum that The Hulk caused a lot of problems when backing up with the Big 3, as it has two PGC's in the first VTS with exacly the same length.

VTS_01: PGC1 [2:12:56]
PGC2 [2:12:56]

I also heard this 2nd PGC was a Button Over Video. Could this be causing the problems with the backup and should I exclude the 2nd PGC which has only 13 chapters when ripping with DVDD?

Btw my source PAL Region 2. :)

Thanks in advance Jerry for any help you or any1 else who has backup up this DVD can offer.

Cheers. :D

[jdobbs]

No reason why button over video should cause problems for DVD-RB. It's also not unusual for identical video to be present with the only difference being the BOV. The Matrix's White Rabbit works that way. I haven't looked at that one -- but you'll probably find that many of the VOBID's are the same for the two PGCs, and only the ones containing BOV diverge into ILVU segments.

I'd keep the second PGC unless it was so large it brought the bitrate down to some terrible level -- I personally like to keep the backups as close to the original as possible. I pretty much never remove anything except alternate languages.

[jdobbs]

Hmm... I just went through your log file. A lot of restarting... It doesn't look like any ILVU content though. If there are two identically long PGCs, they might be using completely different streams. Although it would be possible that they could share cells -- it is usually done with some sections interleaving to prevent playback "pauses". Looking at the bitrates, though, it sure doesn't seem like there could be four hours and 20 minutes of separate video there.

[Zyphon]

@jdobbs

Thanks for the info, I agree I would like to keep the DVD as close to the original as possible also, removing just the unwanted languages.

The thing is the quality was fantastic, however I deleted it as I thought seeing as ITB reported that it could not reallocate the VIDEO_TS structure and like I said when I burned to a DVD+RW it did not work in my SAP.

I shall take onboard your advice and try again and see if this time it works, hopefully it will.

Thanks for the help Jerry, it is much appreciated/ :)

[jel]

I read somewhere on this forum that The Hulk caused a lot of problems when backing up with the Big 3, as it has two PGC's in the first VTS with exacly the same length. hah! that was probably me ;) - jel v's the hulk (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=66622&highlight=hulk)
to be honest though, it was my first attempt at button over video and was almost 2 years ago ... i would like to hope i have learnt a bit since then :)

anyway, enough ramble ...

in the r4 release the pgc's used identical vobids as the only difference between the two was which subpicture streams were avaliable to the user - i guess so you couldnt use your remote to manually switch to the bov feature?

so i selected pgc_2 and re-created pgc_1 from that in scenarist ... to be honest though i am not sure how dvd-rb works as far as duplicate pgc's goes ...

[Edsel]

Hmm... I just went through your log file. A lot of restarting... It doesn't look like any ILVU content though. If there are two identically long PGCs, they might be using completely different streams. Although it would be possible that they could share cells -- it is usually done with some sections interleaving to prevent playback "pauses". Looking at the bitrates, though, it sure doesn't seem like there could be four hours and 20 minutes of separate video there.

Hulk is just BOV, which is why the two segments are identical in length. A logo pops up five or six times during the film, and you can click and see some behind the scenes footage.

[Zyphon]

Yeah as Edsel has said it is just a BOV and shows behind the scenes footage when you hit the Select button on your remote.

@jel

Thanks for your help and info, yes I think it was your post that I came across and I read it after trying to back up The Hulk to see where I was going wrong.

@jdobbs

Hi Jerry, to your knowledge is it possible to back up this title?

I am at a loss to which way I should approach this backup, I would like to retain the BOV structure, like you said the bitrate was good and when I watched the backup on my PC with PowerDVD the quality looked superb.

Any ideas please? Thanks.

[jdobbs]

DVD-RB does BOV all the time. The fact that there is two PGCs pointing to the same cells is no big deal... I'm not sure why you might be having a problem.

I'm not sure what ImgToolBurn might have done to "correct" what it saw... but you might try using IFOEDIT to "Correct VTS Sectors" to get it back to a correct configuration. Then use DVD-RB to output it to an ISO and burn with Decrypter.

[Boulder]

AFAIK ImgTool Burn uses Nero's burning engine which is known to have been problemous at times.

[Zyphon]

@jdobbs

Thanks for the advice Jerry. :)

@Boulder

Yes ITB does use the Nero's API burn engine, maybe this is given me the probems when it tries to reallocate the files.

Thanks for the info, I think I will try what Jerry suggested use DVDD to make an ISO and burn it.

The funny thing is, I took the DVD+RW round to my friends house and it played fine on his SAP and his SAP is slightly older than mine, just goes to show you. :D

Thanks for all your help guys, much appreciated.

[pg55555]

@Zyphon
From your original post:
"I burned it onto a DVD+RW and it did not play on my SAP, however it played on the PC with PowerDVD I am confused."
In my opinion, when you have a backup that run in the PC and not in the standalone, the first suspect has to be a bad burn due to bad media. Try burn it in other media
Second: there are lot of reportrs about Nero warning of problems in the source and then burning discs that played OK.
So, I think you are making "a storm in a glass of water": Just do an ISO with RB or Shrink and burn with Decripter in a good media (as recomended by jdobbs in his first post)

[Zyphon]

@pg55555

FYI: The comment you made about the DVD+RW media is nonsense. I have used the DVD+RW in question to do tests on my SAP loads of times and they have never failed me. Plus they are a quality brand and not a cheap one.

I am not making a storm in a glass of water as you put it, I am just asking for some advice on a DVD that I have had trouble backing up and I have asked if it is something I have done wrong or if there is another problem.

Also I already said in my previous post that I was going to follow Jerry's advice and see how I go.

To be honest I don't know why you bothered to reply to this thread as you obviously have nothing contructive or positive to add to it other than just adding another post count to your tally. :rolleyes:

[pg55555]

@Zyphon

Sorry if you felt atacked. It was not my intention.
I just said "the first suspect has to be a bad burn due to bad media"
Even the best media seems to have a success rate of less than 100% (maybe 99%?). That means that sometimes there will be a bad burn.

Apart, there is some discussions about the lasting performance of DVD+RW (actually about all DVD media in general), so, MAYBE, the DVD+RW in question which you have used "to do tests on my SAP loads of times " is experiencing some kind of fatigue, or your burner is getting "burn out" after so much use, or maybe is your SAP (you mention that your backup worked ok in other machine)

So what I consider my positive contributions:

- Before start suspecting of a problem with RB, suspect of your burn. If the encode runs in your PC, the probability that the problem is a bad burn is very high. So try burning a new DVD, try in another player (you did it and it worked OK)

- I also informed that Nero gives (sometimes) error messages that apparently does not prevent it from producing playable copies (your DVD played fine in your friends' SAP). jdobbs suggeste in his first post in this thread, try burning with Decrypter.

- When I referred to the "storm in a glass of water" (and sorry if it offended you) I was refferring to the discusion about the impact of the two PCGs in the same VTS issue: RB excells at making FULL backups, and this is the primary purpose of the package, so it should have not problem with the 2 PCGs issue. If it has, jdobbs will try to identify and find a solution.
If you follow this forum you will notice that the problems that are being reported are in the encoding/rebuilding process, or freezze/stuttering/skipping during the playback, ussually related with an ILVU or angle in an original authored in a new an "imaginative" way, which jdobbs has to dicover and deal with.
So, when you say that the backup did not play in your SAP (I understood it does not play at all, not just a problem at some points) but it does at PowerDVD, I was recomending to try a new burn (a lot simpler and faster that trying to identify a bug in RB)

Again, sorry if you felt offended, it was not my intention

[Zyphon]

@pg55555

Thank you for your appology it means a lot. I did think you was being condesending to me and I am also sorry I misunderstood your intentions.

Yes I am still a novice where Video encoding goes and probably always will only be, being able to scratch the surface as it were and I thought you was putting me down.

So again, I also appologise for misunderstanding your intentions and I really appreciate your detailed post above it was very interesting to read and I learned a lot from it.

Thanks for your help in helping to give me other options to solve my problem. :)

I shall try out your suggestions.

[Zyphon]

I just thought I would post my final results as I don't like to leave threads hanging and this may help someone else who may have the same probs in the future.

@jdobbs

Hi Jerry, just to let you know that after taking your sound advice I hit the Rebuild phase again only this time I used DVD-RB to make and ISO and then to get it to burn that ISO via DVDD and it worked perfectly in my SAP.

So a big thank you for that. :D

While on the subject of burning, I tickec the 'Disable 32k padding (for AnyDVD)'. As I have AnyDVD installed on my system I thought this would be the correct thing to do.

Was this o.k and how does it affect the ISO and final Authored DVD?

Thanks.

[jdobbs]

It doesn't make a difference at all on 99.99% of all encodes. The only exception might be if you do Movie-Only -- and then it will only make a difference if your disc gets scratched and is unreadable exactly at the spot where that IFO resides. So the need for that option is at least a few thousand to one anyway.

[Zyphon]

Thanks for the explanation Jerry much appreciated, so I can leave that option unticked?

Also is there somewhere where I can select a burn speed as I don't usually like burning DVD's at the max speed. Thanks again. :)

[jdobbs]

Just set the burn speed in DVD Decrypter.

[steptoe]

Just burn a DVD using DVD Decrypter, but don't put a blank DVD in

DVD Decrypter will wait for a blank media to be inserted, now you can change the burn speed and it will remember that setting for future

I get problems with having the burn speed set to maximum, even though my media is x8, if I manually set the burn speed to x8 everything is fine and I get no problems at all


Strange, but its always been like that regardless of what brand of DVD burner I have used

[Zyphon]

@Jdobbs & steptoe

Thank you both for your help, I did as you said as now DVDD remembers my speed setting so thank you very much, I can happily now let DVD-RB do everything without having to worry. :)

Thanks again guys. :D