Avisynth and CCE question for Anime Fansubs

[esso]

Hi all, im having a problem. im converting my anime fansubs to dvd, and because of the overscan, im using FitCD to create my .avs files with the resize and borders need to fit on the tv correctly. unfortunately, i've only been able to produce one working dvd. when i convert them using CCE the audio is off and the video plays fast. i know this is due to the FPS( i think its originally 23.97fps and cce is encoding it to 29.97fps). i've tried to adjust the template to encode to 23.97 but no go. is there a program that i can just paste my avs into that will encode it for me? i've tried DVD2SVCD and found nowhere in it can i paste the avs. or can someone help me setup cce correctly to encode? im using avisynth 2.55 and cce 2.70, and multiplexing to mpg with tmpgenc. Also, is there a dvd authoring program thats easy to use like tmpgdvdauthor?

thanks for any help!

[jel]

you can use BatchCCEWS (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=95982) to automate the use of cce to encode an .avs (or multiple .avs)

in regards to your audio issues, i think you are getting confused with how pulldown works, and to be honest, living in PAL land, i am happily oblivious to it all as well ;)

it may help if you provide additional details as to your process.
eg. source files?
demuxing process?
authoring process?
how many movies per dvd?
etc etc

cheers
j

[esso]

i have no problem getting cce to batch encode by itself, the problem is the frame rate, how do i tell cce to not convert the frame rate to 29.97? i've tried ticking it in the templates but it still encodes to 29fps. i want it to keep the original fps.

Although i did find that i could kinda use DIKO and just stick the avs i made into it and it encodes using HC which im also happy about, i use that with DVD Rebuiler PRO, and i must say, the output is incredible IMOH.

[esso]

sorry forgot the info

source: xvid

demuxing: (not sure?) CCE?? i create the avs with FitCD and just put it
in CCE and hit encode. i guess that would be demuxing.

authoring: tmpenc -> tmpg dvd author

# of movies per DVD: 10 movies @ 2356kbs and 192kb audio

[manono]

Hi-

Have you tried dragging your .avs into CCE, and then right-clicking and hitting "Edit"? That takes you inside CCE where you can set the framerate and many other things.

Maybe I'm stating the obvious there, but setting the correct framerate isn't all that difficult. Maybe framerate isn't your problem. Here's Doom9's new CCE 2.70 Guide:

http://www.doom9.org/mpg/cce270.htm

[esso]

I take no offense to your answers, your trying to help as best you can ^_^.

That was how i used to set the bit rate for each avs before i knew you could just edit or create your own template. as far as the framerate, when i convert the audio to the same framerate as the video it matches up fine, only it plays way too fast with the video. i think my CCE is just being stubborn with me. right now i got it to work using DIKO and my avs i created to make the dvd's. which is okay so far.

[manono]

Hi-

Maybe I'm just dense, but I'm having a problem understanding just where your process is going wrong. Does your MPV fresh out of CCE also play fast? When you open it in VDubMod and go File->File Information, does it show the framerate to be 23.976fps? Does your pulled down M2V play fast? Does it only begin to play fast when muxed with the audio into MPG? Is it necessary to make an MPG when the final output is going to be DVDR? Can you skip that step, and maybe use a different authoring program (not that there's anything wrong with TDA)? Have you tried MuxMan to author from the audio and video streams? Have you tried IFOEdit to author?

If it's OK up to the muxing stage, maybe there's something wrong with the audio. You're using AC3 audio? You extracted the original (VBR MP3?) audio from the AVI and converted it to AC3? You probably shouldn't let CCE do anything with the audio. Demux it (separate it) from the AVI and convert it separately. Feed only video to CCE. Or demux the audio and add:

KillAudio()

to the bottom of the .avs so CCE doesn't see any audio.

demuxing: (not sure?) CCE?? i create the avs with FitCD and just put it in CCE and hit encode. i guess that would be demuxing.

No, that's not demuxing. You can demux it, and also get a video only AVI using VDubMod.

...as far as the framerate, when i convert the audio to the same framerate as the video it matches up fine, only it plays way too fast with the video.

Audio doesn't have a framerate. It should be the same length as the video. If it matches up OK in the original AVI, it should also match the MPEG-2 video length, both the 23.976fps MPV as well as the pulled down 29.97fps M2V, without it playing too fast.

I'm just running some things up the flagpole to see if anyone salutes. You're evidently doing some things differently than most, as I haven't heard of your problem before. I'm sure it's something simple and easily fixed.

[esso]

sorry, didnt realize i wasn't being too clear :)
but, yes, after cce is done creating the mpv it plays too fast. when i open it in media player classic and add the audio cce created it's behind the video alot. when i open it in Vdub it shows the video as being 29.97. the original is 23.97. i understand that audio has no framerate, but what i was getting at was, when i encode the wav to mp3 using besweet, i decided to test it and encode at 29.97 with the convert option. the audio then matched the video which still played too fast.

all-in-all, as you said, it's most likely a problem on my part. when i get home from work im going to try some of the suggestions you put then let you know how it goes.

Thanks for the help too!!

[manono]

Well, until you get the problem sorted out, you can always slow it back down to 23.976fps using ReStream (http://www.videohelp.com/tools?tool=231). I'm assuming it's just been speeded up, and no extra frames added to make it 29.97fps.

[esso]

i'll try that too. thanks

[esso]

Ok, all is good in fps land. i have one more problem, im creating my own .avs for fansubs and importing them into DIKO. now the prob is, when i import what i created with DIKO into DVDLab it tells me that the GOP's are not closed?? there is no option anywhere in DIKO to make sure they are closed. im also using DIKO-UT-Launcher to change the encoder matrix to HC matrix. all i do is select wich matrix FreeEnc will use and i select HC's. other than that, i dont touch anything else. i really dont know how to use anything else yet.

[manono]

Hi-

Don't worry about the GOPs being open. It's actually the better of the 2 choices (open or closed). DVD-Lab will author it anyway, and you'll get slightly better video quality by having them open. The only time that closed GOPs might be useful is if you're editing the MPEG-2. You don't want the long explanation, do you? :)

As for DIKO, as far as I know, not many people around this site use it (I don't), and not many will have anything intelligent to say about it (I don't). If you have any specific DIKO questions, you might try Videohelp.com (http://www.videohelp.com/). Lots of people there use it. Here are their guides for its use:

DIKO Guides (http://www.videohelp.com/guides.php?tools=523&madeby=&formatconversionselect=&howtoselect)

[esso]

Ok on the GOP part :)
I stopped using DIKO. im using BatchCCEWS as recomended. i def like it. and it uses HC wich im partial to. to me it seems to deal with anime better than CCE (just my opinion). but thank you for all the help! i now understand a little more than before. and CCE is for some reason working properly now.