CCE 2.70.02 hangs on VTS_01 segment 9

[glassvial]

Latest DVD-RB, CCE SP 2.70.02, consistently hangs on "Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 9". I un-installed CCE and re-installed. Steal space from extras is at 25%, 5 pass, one click mode. I really need to use CCE/RB because Shrink produces unacceptable results. I'm open to suggestions, thanks!

[Axed]

Post the log file please (DVD-RB makes a log, right?). If worst comes to worst, and you cant fix this problem, just encode the entire file by hand and mux it yourself. Its not extremely hard, just not as easy either.

[glassvial]

Log:

- Versions :
-- CCE SP Version: 2.70.2.0
-- ReJig Version: 0.3.0.0
-- QuEnc Version: 0.6.1.0
-- HC Version: 0.15.0.0
-- DECODER Version: UNKNOWN
-- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.5.0

-----------------
[22:49:20] Phase I, PREPARATION started.
- CCE SP 2.70.2.0 encoder selected.
- "Steal Space from Extras" mode is enabled.
- VTS_01: 4,018,357 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V & .AVS files
-- Processed 269,797 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- Reduction Level for DVD-5: 51.8%
- Overall Bitrate : 3,043Kbs
- Space for Video : 4,009,366KB
- HIGH/LOW/TYPICAL Bitrates: 3,227/2,874/3,043 Kbs
[22:53:50] Phase I, PREPARATION completed in 4 minutes.
[22:59:29] Phase II ENCODING started
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 0
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 1
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 2
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 3
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 4
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 5
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 6
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 7
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 8
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 9

[Fishman0919]

What Movie are you encoding? What DECODER are you using ( DGDecode or MPEG2Dec3dg)? What ver of DECODER are you using? How did you rip the movie to the HD?..... A little more info would be great to help you.

[glassvial]

WWE Road Warriors disc 1. Decoder is DGDecode dated 1/21/05, so whatever version that is. Ripped with DVD Decrypter, file mode. Also tried ISO mode. What else do you want to know?

[Fishman0919]

Ahhhh, I ran in to the same problem with this disc only it would fail on the rebuild stage, I don't remember what ver I used... I ended up do it with the Big 3... maybe this is a disc jdobbs can try and fix.

[glassvial]

Great, did you manage to get disc 2 done ok at least?

[Fishman0919]

Yes, disc 2 worked fine.

[glassvial]

Well disc 2 is hanging for me also, on VTS_01 segment 6...grr I can't win.

[SpazzHH]

I would try it with HC(excellent at lower bitrates and interlaced sources). That would be more apt to tell you if it's a disc problem or a CCE problem.

[glassvial]

Got nothing to lose, will do. Trying it now, will post if anything happens.

[Fishman0919]

I would try it with HC(excellent at lower bitrates and interlaced sources). That would be more apt to tell you if it's a disc problem or a CCE problem.

Humm... didn't think of that... CCE SP 2.70.02 can hang on some things for some people. :goodpost:

[jdobbs]

Try resetting all the matrices to the default. I ran into a similar problem (system hang) with CCE v2.50 -- and that fixed it. I guess there are some matrices that are better left alone.

[glassvial]

Ok, uhhh, how do you do that? LOL

[jdobbs]

Never mind -- if you don't know you haven't changed them.

Is your system overclocked? That seems to be the most common cause of CCE crashes in v2.70...

[glassvial]

Nope, not overclocked at all. AMD Athlon 2900+ and Abit KV7-V board, latest BIOS. And as far as I know I never played with the matrices, fresh install of RB and fresh (re)install of CCE (because I was trying to fix the problem).

[glassvial]

Ick...HC is hanging on the same thing (disc 2) as CCE is, VTS_01 segment 6. Uhh, what else can I try? I'm at a loss.

[SpazzHH]

What's special about that segment? ILVU? How many frames? Can you play the AVS with Media Player?

[glassvial]

What's special about that segment? ILVU? How many frames? Can you play the AVS with Media Player?
I have no idea what's so special about it. Not sure if it's ILVU or not. How many frames... ? Some of the other AVS/M2V files play with WiMP, but now that I see them, it appears they may be interlaced...

[jptheripper]

can you rerip the disk?

[glassvial]

Afraid not. Again this is happening in different places on both discs, very odd. Haven't had a problem with CCE in awhile, but then again I haven't used it in awhile either.

[glassvial]

Ran prime95 for awhile just to see if it was something wrong with my system. Passed about 4-5 tests no problem. Runing memtest86+ v1.60 now, so far so good.

[SpazzHH]

I have no idea what's so special about it. Not sure if it's ILVU or not.
RB will tell you it has detected Angles or interleaving in the Status Window if it is.
How many frames... ?
You can check the Rebuilder .inf from your working directory.
Some of the other AVS/M2V files play with WiMP
How about the one for the segment you're having problems with?

[glassvial]

I don't recall there being any angles on this. As for the others, I'll let you know after memtest is done, I want to get it up to at least 3 passes, right now it's passed once.

[glassvial]

(ok, finally getting back to this)
If you mean the rebuilder log file, it says "processed 257,865 frames"

The segment it's hanging on doesn't actually get created. It fires up CCE, then just sits there, trying to create "V010000600007001.vaf" which ends up just being a 0 byte file. Last file it makes properly is "V01000500006001" .vaf/.avs/.m2v/.flg. Hope that helps.

Also ran 4 prime95 torture tests and 3 memtest86+ passes no problem.

[Fishman0919]

The segment it's hanging on doesn't actually get created. It fires up CCE, then just sits there, trying to create "V010000600007001.vaf" which ends up just being a 0 byte file. Last file it makes properly is "V01000500006001" .vaf/.avs/.m2v/.flg. Hope that helps.

Sound like a CCE SP 2.70.02 problem .... did you try HC Encoder yet, should give you as good as results.

[glassvial]

Sound like a CCE SP 2.70.02 problem .... did you try HC Encoder yet, should give you as good as results.
As I already posted, HC is also hanging. I also have a copy of CCE 2.67.00.27 kicking around and it's also hanging just like 2.70.02 is. :angry:

[SpazzHH]

If you mean the rebuilder log file
Try the Rebuilder.inf that is inside the D2VAVS folder of your working directory. It will list all segments and their sizes.
The segment it's hanging on doesn't actually get created. It fires up CCE, then just sits there, trying to create "V010000600007001.vaf" which ends up just being a 0 byte file. Last file it makes properly is "V01000500006001" .vaf/.avs/.m2v/.flg.
Try and play V010000600007001.AVS with Media Player and see what happens.

[glassvial]

Try the Rebuilder.inf that is inside the D2VAVS folder of your working directory. It will list all segments and their sizes.
No such file I remember seeing.

Try and play V010000600007001.AVS with Media Player and see what happens.
Will do once I run an encode again. Trying some more things here (running it through DVD shrink first, etc) then I'll run it again and post back.

[arsmori]

Donno if CCE freeze on CRC error, but maybe your file(s) is corrupted? Try to copy the VTS(s) somewhere, Windows will spit a CRC failure msg if it's the case. Just a though.

[SpazzHH]

No such file I remember seeing.
Look for it, it will be there.


Will do once I run an encode again. Trying some more things here (running it through DVD shrink first, etc) then I'll run it again and post back.
No hurry, but you can try this after just the Prepare stage in 3-click mode. You won't need to do a full encode.

[glassvial]

Donno if CCE freeze on CRC error, but maybe your file(s) is corrupted? Try to copy the VTS(s) somewhere, Windows will spit a CRC failure msg if it's the case. Just a though.
Nope, I copied this DVD from one machine to another already with no problems. I also just made an ISO of the files with DVD Shrink, and re-ripped that with DVD decrypter, again no problems.

[glassvial]

Look for it, it will be there.
Ok here's the inf file (found it, long)

[Status]
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Original_Size=3716346
Excluded_Audio_Sub_Size=0
MainVTS=01
VTS_01_SIZE=3494068
Progress=1
CCEType=3
[V0100001]
Last_Sector=351901
[V01000000001001]
SCR=.000
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Frame_Rate_Code=3
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Structure=1
Frames=25033
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First_Sector=0
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Reduction=57.6
Aspect_Ratio=2
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[V0100002]
Last_Sector=624948
[V01000100002001]
SCR=.000
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[SpazzHH]

There's 8176 frames in that segment, so any glitches with small segments, like in the past, seems to be ruled out. If the .AVS file plays well with Media Player, then my uneducated guess would lean towards the structure and authoring of the original DVD since both encoders hang in the same spot. If it doesn't then something is wrong with RB or Avisynth perhaps.

[glassvial]

Try and play V010000600007001.AVS with Media Player and see what happens.
Just plays a black clip and hangs media player.

[glassvial]

There's 8176 frames in that segment, so any glitches with small segments, like in the past, seems to be ruled out. If the .AVS file plays well with Media Player, then my uneducated guess would lean towards the structure and authoring of the original DVD since both encoders hang in the same spot. If it doesn't then something is wrong with RB or Avisynth perhaps.
Just uninstalled AVISynth and re-installed with the latest beta (2.5.6B4) so, trying again. If this doesn't fix it then I'm at a loss.

[jdobbs]

Have you tried loading the .AVS file directly into CCE and see if it completes? That would at least determine if it is CCE specific. The AVS hangs, huh... could you post the AVS contents?

[Trahald]

from something else that Auenf suggested on a different issue... Sometimes the audio (fake audio) causes an issue .. this is just a suggestion but you can try unchecking the options->avs options->audiodub(blankclip()) which takes audio out of the picture (2.70 doesnt need this as earlier cces need) .. sometimes that helps against crashes.. may be worth a shot if you run out of ideas

[jdobbs]

Your normally only need "AudioDub(BlankClip())" for CCE 2.50 anyway. But I hadn't heard of issues because it was there.

Interesting.

[SpazzHH]

Just uninstalled AVISynth and re-installed with the latest beta (2.5.6B4) so, trying again. If this doesn't fix it then I'm at a loss.
Betas are not always overly compatable with RB. You might stick with 2.5.5.

[Trahald]

yeah.. its actually the temperamental nature of cce. its just a suggestion that worked when someone got stuck using cce before. the audiodub... line is just fine.

[glassvial]

Have you tried loading the .AVS file directly into CCE and see if it completes? That would at least determine if it is CCE specific. The AVS hangs, huh... could you post the AVS contents?
Does the same thing, opens up CCE and just sits there.

[glassvial]

try unchecking the options->avs options->audiodub(blankclip()) which takes audio out of the picture (2.70 doesnt need this as earlier cces need) .. sometimes that helps against crashes.. may be worth a shot if you run out of ideas
I'll try that now.

[glassvial]

Betas are not always overly compatable with RB. You might stick with 2.5.5.
Doesn't matter, result is/was the same.

[SpazzHH]

Do as jdobbs requested. Open the .AVS with notepad and please post the contents so he can see it.

[glassvial]

Ok here's the contents of the V01000600007001.AVS file. Again this is the disc 2, segment 6 hang (it's faster to get to than the disc 1 seg 9 hang).

#------------------
# AVS File Created by DVD Rebuilder
# VOBID:07, CELLID:01
#------------------
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\DVD-RB PRO\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\Decomb521.dll")
mpeg2source("C:\DVDTemp\D2VAVS\V01.D2V")
trim(118174,126349)
FieldDeinterlace(blend=false)
ConvertToYUY2()

[jdobbs]

The first thing I'd try is getting rid of the delinterlacing with decomb...

[glassvial]

I had it off before, I turned it on to see if it would change anything (plus some of this MAY be interlaced, I have to look closer).

[glassvial]

Ok so I just finished another encode job on a totally different disc but with the same settings (CCE, etc) and it ran fine, 721 minutes later...so wtf??

[Trahald]

Just plays a black clip and hangs media player.

i dunno how i didnt see this. if media player is crashing on it it will never encode. that indicates problem with the .vob / the .d2v or the avs script .. and the script looked ok.. something is wrong.. im betting on the .vob. you said you cannot rerip the original disk?

[glassvial]

I forgot to mention this/these is/are PAL DVD's, I don't know if that makes any difference or not.

[jdobbs]

This wouldn't be happening on an ILVU segment that is the last segment of a VTS would it? I've just fixed a bug that could result in a bad ILVU .D2V file under that circumstance.

[glassvial]

I don't believe either disc has any ILVU segments, if it does RB didn't say anything about it, unless there's another method of (manually?) checking?

Also I ran disc 2 through DVD Stripper to see if it would clean anything up, this time segment 6 actually started encoding! But then it hung on pass 2/6 :(

[TECK]

Sometimes, problems with disks like the example above are sticky, the disk just wont take it. To solve them, you could save the movie as ISO with DVD Shrink (uncompressed) + AnyDVD, mount it into Virtual CloneDrive 5.1.1.1 and then process it with DVD-RB Pro.

Try it and let us know.

[glassvial]

I've (basically) already done that. Made an ISO with DVD Shrink, mounted with Daemon tools, and re-ripped with DVD Decrypter, then tried with DVD-RB again. And this latest attempt with DVD stripper was: make ISO w/Shrink, mount with Daemon tools, open DVD stripper, which calls DVD Decrypter to rip, stripped out 2 useless things with DVD Stripper, then had DVD-RB call the output of that.

[jptheripper]

why are you stripping and preprocessing

rip from disk with dvd decrypter (dont use shrink)
prepare in rb,
blank in rb
then encode and rebuild

see if the problem remains

[glassvial]

why are you stripping and preprocessing

rip from disk with dvd decrypter (dont use shrink)
Because this isn't an option, as I already mentioned earlier in the thread. All I have access to are the files not the original discs anymore.

[glassvial]

Ok even though it took FOREVER it finally slogged through the disc 2 encode and somehow got past that stuck segment 6. Now back to working on disc 1, hoping that running it through DVD stripper like I did with disc 2 would solve it, well, I was wrong. It still gets stuck on segment 9, so back to the drawing board.

[jptheripper]

please stop pre processing, you dont need too!!!!!!!

blank things IN rebuilder, not before

if you dont have access to the original disk go buy them, as you need to own a legitimate copy.

otherwise, its out of our hands

[glassvial]

How do you blank things IN rebuilder?

And, you assume an awful lot.

[Tore]

If you have the pro version there is an segement viewer where you can blank "stuff".

[Trahald]

And, you assume an awful lot.
Perhaps. but he would be correct in saying you should have the original legitimate source to work with.

trying to put bandaids on it and force feeding it into dvdrb is just frustrating things. again, please rerip from your original dvd9 disk and test that.

[glassvial]

Well after a whopping 1,272 minutes (!!) Disc 1 finally finished! Did the same thing as Disc 2, ran it through DVD Stripper, which I guess cleaned up the rip enough to get it going. At first I thought it was just going to hang again on segment 9, but I let it sit there (probably for at least a good hour, honestly) and it finally (slowly, just like seg 6 for disc 2) encoded.

Thanks for the attempts at helping (and no thanks for the accusations) I guess I should check my decrypter settings (it's unfortunate there won't ever be a newer release of that fine program...) and if this happens again I'll know what to do. Too bad DVD Stripper isn't more stable (and also no longer developed).

[jptheripper]

no accusations, just observations

and i guess i still dont understand why you are planning on using dvd stripper for the future, when it isnt needed.

good luck on your future rips, and remember.. dont preprocess!!

[glassvial]

and i guess i still dont understand why you are planning on using dvd stripper for the future, when it isnt needed.
It fixed my problem, that's all that matters to me :D

[auenf]

from something else that Auenf suggested on a different issue... Sometimes the audio (fake audio) causes an issue .. this is just a suggestion but you can try unchecking the options->avs options->audiodub(blankclip()) which takes audio out of the picture (2.70 doesnt need this as earlier cces need) .. sometimes that helps against crashes.. may be worth a shot if you run out of ideas

lately ive found that:

KillAudio()


works better these days.

Enf...

[NightSta]

and i guess i still dont understand why you are planning on using dvd stripper for the future, when it isnt needed.
I don't think he ever answered on the question of free versus Pro version. If the former, that would account for why it would be necessary (short of making a donation for the Pro, or buying DVD ReMake Pro, etc).