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AlexeyS
23rd July 2005, 01:46
Is there any lossless codec for HDTV (I need it for transcoding) with multiple AC3 tracks support?

bond
23rd July 2005, 10:19
i dont understand what you want?

you want a lossless video codec or a lossless audio codec? of course you can use any lossless codec existing also for hdtv content

you wonder whether any HDTV station will use lossless video? definitely not

AlexeyS
23rd July 2005, 12:08
i dont understand what you want?

you want a lossless video codec or a lossless audio codec? of course you can use any lossless codec existing also for hdtv content

you wonder whether any HDTV station will use lossless video? definitely not
No, I need fast lossless video codec to encode capture video to normal video (without deinterlace etc).

PS: What is the really good and fast way to encode capture video (raw MPEG2) to Nero AVC with adding 2 or 3 AC3 tracks? What container (ideal supporting by Nero Recode and few AC3 tracks)? What video codec (fast and good)?

Latexxx
23rd July 2005, 12:52
You should capture the mpeg2 content itself which isn't raw but already heavily compressed. If you decode the mpeg2 stream and compress it losslessly, the result will several times bigger than the original mpeg2 stream.
Nero Recode is able (AFAIK) to take the mpeg2 stream as input directly without converting to any intermediate format first.

AlexeyS
23rd July 2005, 21:16
You should capture the mpeg2 content itself which isn't raw but already heavily compressed. If you decode the mpeg2 stream and compress it losslessly, the result will several times bigger than the original mpeg2 stream.
Nero Recode is able (AFAIK) to take the mpeg2 stream as input directly without converting to any intermediate format first.
Yes, but if I add few AC3 or MPA tracks, Recode will not works fine sometimes...

Also, I need to make deinterlace/pulldown removal sometimes and Recode has bad deinterlacer.

Latexxx
23rd July 2005, 23:45
Then use Avisynth for frame serving and filtering.

AlexeyS
25th July 2005, 11:45
Then use Avisynth for frame serving and filtering.
Avusynth + Nero Recode don't working properly with HDTV video. When encode normal (SD) video - it works fine. But when you try to encode HDTV, you'll get audio sync problems.

Private-Cowboy
25th July 2005, 18:27
CineFormHD does what you want. Look at www.cineform.com

AlexeyS
25th July 2005, 18:35
CineFormHD does what you want. Look at www.cineform.com
No, I did not find any loseless codecs. Just plugins for Premiere and Sony Vegas.

communist
25th July 2005, 21:00
Have you tried with a short sample encoded in HuffYUV / Lagarith / FFV1 etc. if Nero Recode even supports HD res?

AlexeyS
25th July 2005, 21:12
Have you tried with a short sample encoded in HuffYUV / Lagarith / FFV1 etc. if Nero Recode even supports HD res?
I've tried only Lagarith. I'm searching for fast and good-compression lossless codec (not very expensive or free).

Lagarith is fast, but the compression is not very good.

Backwoods
26th July 2005, 03:09
No, I did not find any loseless codecs. Just plugins for Premiere and Sony Vegas.

Which contain the codec.

AlexeyS
26th July 2005, 10:52
Which contain the codec.
I don't have Premiere anyway.

Backwoods
27th July 2005, 03:01
The Directshow Codec will still be installed. Install the demo of Premiere if you have to.

Any other codec at those resolutions is going to eat up your HDD.

AlexeyS
24th August 2005, 19:31
The Directshow Codec will still be installed. Install the demo of Premiere if you have to.

Any other codec at those resolutions is going to eat up your HDD.
Is this codec really Loseless? Or it's "visually loseless"? I've tried to encode and it seems there is some quality lost...

easy2Bcheesy
26th August 2005, 16:49
Quality lost is very, very small. CineformHD is the best HD codec I've found in terms of compression, but I've yet to find anything as fast as good old huffyuv.

AlexeyS
26th August 2005, 17:24
Quality lost is very, very small
I see. It's not loseless. I've asked because I saw difference in quality even on 17'' LCD computer monitor.

easy2Bcheesy
26th August 2005, 19:47
I think it uses YUV 4:2:2 so it's inherently lossy right off the bat, but as I said it's definitely the best HD codec I've come across in terms of file sizes vs quality.