OGM is dead???

[dimzon]

Seems like OGM is dead. Matrosska has overkill feature set so OGM is not requed at all.
I'm right?

PS. Sorry for my crappy english

[Sharktooth]

not yet, but the future is not bright for OGM...

[sillKotscha]

if you backup your own DVD and store a/v in an ogg_media container what will you get?? A "my_own_video_file.ogm" ;) as long as you use it, guess what... it's not dead :)

[Sharktooth]

AVC/ASP+AAC+TTXT in MP4 is the way to go...
much less overhead than ogm, avi and mkv.

[stephanV]

certainly between mp4 and mkv the overhead diff is not that big, so it would be a bit silly to use that as argument for mp4 (it would be in any case) and tools for mp4 are STILL not on the level of AVI or even MKV. (this is getting very annoying to repeat)

i guess there is no real feature OGM has, that avi or mkv do not have and from a development point of view OGM indeed seems practically dead. the tools are still available though...

[Koepi]

Radlight is even developing more actual splitter filters for OGM, so I'd say it isn't dead.

[Sergei_Esenin]

AVC/ASP+AAC+TTXT in MP4 is the way to go...
much less overhead than ogm, avi and mkv.

It's a good way to go if you don't mind the very limited choice of supported codecs in MP4. I like putting my own analogue captures in MP4, since I do prefer AVC or high-bitrate ASP video and AAC audio in that instance and they're native to the MP4 container. But, for DVD rips I prefer to keep the original AC3 audio--why compromise on audio quality if like me you do quality 1-2GB encodes--and AC3 isn't supported in MP4. If one is doing lower-quality 1-CD rips, sure the audio recompression to AAC makes sense to free up valuable bits; if doing larger higher-res higher-bitrate rips, recompressing to AAC saves almost no relative bits and stops being worth the drop in audio quality (which is noticeable on even mediocre speakers if you compare).

That's why it's MKV for me. A much more flexible container than MP4 in practice, which gives better options for the quality-conscious by letting us use things like original AC3 audio tracks. Tools like MKVtoolnix and MKVextract are excellent and more well-polished than similar MP4 tools. The *only* problem I've ever had with MKV is inability to use the beta Ateme AVC decoder with AVC-in-MKV streams, which is a very minor point compared with the numerous complaints I've read about incomplete or incompatible MP4 implementations. MKV has become almost as "transparent" to use as AVI, while MP4 still has a ways to go...

[Koepi]

Since this thread degrades into simple "my oppinion - your oppinion" I'll close it later today. This is so useless and has nothing to do with the starting post.

[iapir]

I guess it makes sense to explain WHY OGM is dead (or dying) ?