MeGUI - x264/XviD/lavc/Snow encoder with MP4/MKV/AVI output & audio [Archive] - Page 6

Knuffi

8th June 2007, 10:41

In earlier versions there was a little checkbox on the queue page managing the behavior of MEGUI after encoding. This was removed and the "settings" got one feature more.
Is it possible to bring back that little checkbox or perhaps radio-boxes on the queue-page? I often change the after-encoding-behavior and nearly as often I forget to set it back to "do nothing". Therefore my pc shuts down sometimes after encoding while I on the contrary want to work on it ... :o

I just wanted to bring this little feature back to discussion - with a little addition:

How about giving a default value for the behavior in the settings dialog and a "only once"-behavior in a radio box on the queue page?

Example: I put the default behavior on the settings page to "do nothing" and work with it. If I want to convert a movie at night, I can set the "only once"-radio box on the queue page to "shutdown". After the encoding, the computer shuts down and the next time I start MeGUI, it is set back to "do nothing".

That would IMHO be a great feature!

Anyone else seconding that?

superuser

10th June 2007, 20:09

I am getting this error

Channels=5, BitsPerSample=16, SampleRate=48000Hz
C:\Program Files\megui\tools\ndaac\neroAacEnc_SSE2.exe -ignorelength -lc -br 256000 -if - -of "I:\Mashaal\Mashaal T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.mp4"Error:
System.IO.IOException: The pipe has been ended.

at System.IO.__Error.WinIOError(Int32 errorCode, String maybeFullPath)
at System.IO.FileStream.WriteCore(Byte[] buffer, Int32 offset, Int32 count)
at System.IO.FileStream.Write(Byte[] array, Int32 offset, Int32 count)
at MeGUI.AviSynthAudioEncoder.encode()*************************************************************
* *
* Nero Digital Audio Reference MPEG-4 & 3GPP Audio Encoder *
* Copyright (C) 2006 Nero AG *
* All Rights Reserved Worldwide *
* *
* Package build date: Feb 12 2007 *
* *
* See -help for a complete list of available parameters. *
* *
*************************************************************

ERROR: could not open AAC encoder

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The current job contains errors. Skipping chained jobs

can pls some one help me what I may be doing wrong in here.

thnxs in advance.

check

11th June 2007, 02:43

try using the non SSE2 version of the encoder, it looks like the nero encoder is having problems.

superuser

11th June 2007, 03:30

^ thnxs.

problem looks like to have resolved as of now. It was related to settings or something I may have messed up somewhere previously. Did again afresh and it seems to have started working now.

paranoid87

16th June 2007, 18:16

i had a similar issue like superuser..but its solbved now..

shevegen

18th June 2007, 23:26

I got a question... :)
How many people develop or help develop (in the sense that they contribute code) to the project?

r0sWell

2nd July 2007, 20:19

hello,

i have a problem using megui :

i'm not sure it's related to megui (maybe filters, you tell me) but on certains HDDVDs i don't have the end of the movie after the encode.

here's what i use :
. evodemux to rip the HDVD on my hard drive.
. graphedit (file source async, sonic hd demuxer, sonic videodecoder 4.2)
. avisynth (DirectShowSource("file.GRF",audio=false,fps=23.976,seekzero=false,seek=true).trim(0,166245)
ConvertToYV12()
spline36Resize(1920,800))
. megui (avs loaded in, with manual correction of the framecount because it showed ~145000 instead of 166245)

i had this problem on 2 HDDVDs, but it was correct for 3 others.

thx in advance guys, :thanks:

foxyshadis

3rd July 2007, 18:29

Trim can't extend the framecount, only contract it. You need to use the framecount parameter of directshowsource, instead.

r0sWell

4th July 2007, 07:05

Trim can't extend the framecount, only contract it. You need to use the framecount parameter of directshowsource, instead.

thx,
i'll try using the framecount parameter

e-Pawel

4th July 2007, 19:32

Does the .NET Framework 3.0 actually work as well?

Doom9

4th July 2007, 20:26

Does the .NET Framework 3.0 actually work as well?It's just 2.0 plus some additional components so yes, it'll work. i'm not sure of the upcoming 3.5 contains any breaking changes

Barough

12th July 2007, 02:53

A little question.................. the Bitrate Calculator thats available in meGUI, it that 1 available 4 download by itself somewhere or?

dtubb1978

20th July 2007, 20:56

check

21st July 2007, 03:51

are you using the latest version? please provide more information in regards to your problem, like the file you are opening.

Spilt_milk

22nd July 2007, 01:10

MeGUI is the most comprehensive GUI based ISO MPEG-4 solution.

Input: AviSynth scripts (AVS), AVI, D2V, VOB/TS/MPG/PVA
Output: MP4, MKV, AVI

Video Codecs: x264, XviD, Libavcodec MPEG-4, Snow
Audio Codecs: AAC (Nero, Faac), MP3

Download the latest build (http://www.sf.net/projects/megui)

Required tools:
Microsoft .NET Runtime 2.0 (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=0856eacb-4362-4b0d-8edd-aab15c5e04f5&DisplayLang=en)

Avisynth 2.55 (http://www.doom9.org/Soft21/SupportUtils/AviSynth_255.exe) for video frameserving. Beta versions are NOT!!! supported

A YV12 VfW codec. If you have a recent XviD version installed, that will suffice. If you don't get any preview when opening an AviSynth script, install the Helix YV12 codec (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=56972)

For x264 encoding:
x264 CLI (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=89979) alternatively you can use mencoder

For XviD, lavc, Snow and x264 encoding (alternative to x264 CLI)
latest version of mencoder (http://www.aziendeassociate.it/cd.asp?dir=/mplayer) (it's part of the mplayer package, pick the version that best matches your CPU

For audio encoding
besweet 1.5b31 (http://www.doom9.org/Soft21/Audio/BeSweetv1.5b31.zip)

For MP4 muxing
latest version of mp4box (http://www.aziendeassociate.it/cd.asp?dir=/gpac/dev) (version 0.4.0 or later)

For MKV muxing
latest version of mkvtoolnix (http://www.bunkus.org/videotools/mkvtoolnix/downloads.html) You need the full installer!

To create DGIndex projects:
DGMPGDec 1.41 or higher (http://neuron2.net/dgmpgdec/dgmpgdec.html)

To create AviSynth scripts: copy dgdecode.dll (see DGIndex download) to your AviSynth plugins directory (c:\program files\avisynth\plugins or wherever you have installed it to). For IVTC and deinterlacing, you'll also have to copy Decomb (http://www.doom9.org/Soft21/Filters/decomb521.zip) to your AviSynth plugin directory.

If you are only interested in the x264 part of MeGUI, check out MeGUI x264 edition (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=98032). If you are only interested in the snow part of MeGUI, check out MeGUI Snow edition (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=98033)

There are 4 threads dedicated to MeGUI
This one is for general discussion
Feature request thread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=105162) to make feature requests
Bug report thread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=105160) to make bug reports
Developer thread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=95863)For those who wish to participate in the project

In addition, to get a headstart at configuring x264, check out Sharktooth's MeGUI x264 profiles (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=101813)

Everything this guys saud you need is in this pack i made it also got all the latest one

SacredCultivator

22nd July 2007, 01:18

@Spilt_Milk: Thanks hehe didn't even notice that meGUI got updated to 0.2.5 as I still have 0.2.4 thanks.

check

22nd July 2007, 11:42

please do NOT download the above pack. This is what autoupdate is for!

dtubb1978

22nd July 2007, 15:19

are you using the latest version? please provide more information in regards to your problem, like the file you are opening.

Yeah i used the auto update to download the latest version.

The error occurs when i select the "Tool > AviSynth Script Creator" menu option, before the script editor opens. This is why it confuses me i can't see why anything would be trying to calculate a resolution before i have given it any input.

Spilt_milk

27th July 2007, 07:18

the autouploader dont work for me on 64bit vista i get a it can unzip the file u have a fix?

EDIT
installed avisynth now it works

question if i installed avisynth and megui and used the auto updater do i still need to install all the applications listed in the begining?

Spilt_milk

27th July 2007, 08:35

Another Question will Megui and its tools work with Vista 64 bit?

iRobie

28th July 2007, 07:23

Hi, I havn't used Megui in a while so yesterday I started it up and downloaded all the latest updates but now whenever I open the AviSynth Script Creator i'm getting the following error message.

"Error in computing resolution
Object reference not set to an instance of an object"

Anyone got any ideas on how to stop this?

dtubb1978,

I had the same problem. Removing some newly created AviSynth profiles solved the trouble for me. They are located in megui\profiles\AviSynth.

Hope this helps!

dtubb1978

28th July 2007, 20:14

Thanks iRobie, your sugestion was spot on.

dansus

1st August 2007, 15:39

Im getting the avisynth/dgindex mismatch error.

The one that says im picking up a version of decode that does not match the version that was used to make the d2v.

Ive had a look about but i cant see any other versions, its been working fine up until now, how do i fix this?

thanks.

edit: Fixed, i updated dgdecode.dll in avisynth plugins folder from 1.4.8 to 1.4.9 which matched the dgindex version in megui.

Space Hopper

3rd August 2007, 17:23

Error im getting when trying to encode in XviD with MKV output:

xvid_encraw - raw mpeg4 bitstream encoder written by Christoph Lampert 2002-2003

Not compiled with MKV output support.

Its supposed to support MKV right?
Or did I misunderstand something?

Sharktooth

3rd August 2007, 17:24

MKV muxing in megui will happen later after video and audio encoding.

Space Hopper

3rd August 2007, 17:36

MKV muxing in megui will happen later after video and audio encoding.

Yeah but I'm getting that message at the beginning of the 2nd pass.

Btw. another thing I've noticed (which may or may not be intended):
You cant select MP4 as the File format when encoding with XviD, but in the Auto-Encode dialoge you can, and the resulting MP4 file works fine.

Sharktooth

3rd August 2007, 17:50

Space Hopper

3rd August 2007, 18:08

The MKV thing should not prevent MeGUI from outputting a MKV file at the end of encoding. The message you're getting only says the encoder was not compiled with MKV support but MeGUI doesnt care coz it will start a muxing job at the end of encodings and mux everything to your selected container (MKV in this case).
The other one could be a bug. Please post it in the MeGUIs bugtracker on sourceforge.

Sorry, should have been more clear:
Yes I get that message, but the resulting job fails because of it. So it never encodes the video, and it will never get to the muxing part.

But what you're saying makes sense.

Ps. Posted the bug you suggested on sourceforge.

Zetten

13th August 2007, 14:37

I've been having some mixed results with MeGUI - occasionally it will rip just fine, and I'm such a big fan of the .mkv format and h.264 quality that I'm gradually starting to re-rip my entire DVD collection to h.264.

On the other hand, occasionally I get audio/video sync problems. I don't think it's a straight problem with the audio delay - I have checked the delay reported by DGIndex and the audio and video file lengths, and everything matches. This also suggests it's not a problem with the muxing, but I might be wrong.

It seems to progressively get worse (more out of sync) throughout the film, which to me suggests that maybe it's some kind of deinterlacing problem, mismatching the video framerate (or some other kind of gobbledegook - this isn't my strong point) which accumulates throughout the film. The problem with this theory is that the video is progressive.

So far I've tried ripping with different profiles (HQ-Slower and Slowest, but I am trying a one-pass quick one just now to see if the problem persists), but I don't really know what else to look at.

Basically, I just need some help with troubleshooting, to find the source of the problem. Then I guess you guys can help me fix it. :P

Thanks in advance.

UltraTV

24th August 2007, 21:41

Running a QTinput avs script in MeGUI causes the following error when trying to Enqueue. The QT file is in Cineform format, but the same exception is thrown with AppleProRes 422 as well as DVCPROHD and DV.

System exception - Access Violation

MeGUI is able to bring up a preview window of the video, and the same script encodes fine with x264.exe via command line.

MeGUI is the bomb shiznazzle. Just wanted to throw my professional opinion down.

Thanks for the work.

fight2win

28th August 2007, 10:19

latest megui update doesn't work, any help????

FAII

28th August 2007, 18:00

Using the presets for 5.0 and 5.5 in, say, meGUI and the same resolution and bitrate, will the two files be the exact same?

Like say a 5 minute music video using 320x240 and 400 kbps? Exact same, no difference at all? Or is one of the profiles better for certain files (say, files with a resolution 320x240 or below) and one for another or is 5.5 superior to 5.0 in every way?

I just want to know so that I'll know if I should use 5.0 as long as the resolution is 76800 pixels or below or if I should always go for 5.5 or whether or not it doesn't matter at all as long as I use 5.5 for anything with more than 76800 pixels.

Sharktooth

29th August 2007, 01:56

fight2win, what update? please be more specific.

fight2win

29th August 2007, 19:57

fight2win, what update? please be more specific.

i recently had to format pc, and i installed latest megui ( http://mirror01.x264.nl/x264/megui-0.2.6.1001.exe ) from x264.nl, after install it says updates are available, but doesn't shows them... so no stuff gets dloaded....

Sharktooth

29th August 2007, 20:46

works for me. try using the update function in the tools menu and report back.

B.F.

30th August 2007, 08:45

Try to encode AC3 file using new ffmpeg build (http://ffdshow.faireal.net/mirror/ffmpeg/).
It seems something changed in comandline options (bitrate settings) and now it tell me this.
All work fine with build 7906.

Log for job job1

Channels=1, BitsPerSample=16, SampleRate=48000Hz
D:\Distrib\DIVX\EDIT\MeGUI\MeGUI\ffmpeg.exe -i - -y -acodec ac3 -ab 256 "D:\SOS2007\avi_sos.ac3"Error:
System.IO.IOException: Канал был закрыт.

at System.IO.__Error.WinIOError(Int32 errorCode, String maybeFullPath)
at System.IO.FileStream.WriteCore(Byte[] buffer, Int32 offset, Int32 count)
at System.IO.FileStream.Write(Byte[] array, Int32 offset, Int32 count)
at MeGUI.AviSynthAudioEncoder.encode()FFmpeg version SVN-r9767, Copyright (c) 2000-2007 Fabrice Bellard, et al.
configuration: --enable-gpl --enable-pp --enable-swscaler --enable-pthreads --enable-liba52 --enable-avisynth --enable-libamr-nb --enable-libamr-wb --enable-libfaac --enable-libfaad --enable-libgsm --enable-libmp3lame --enable-libnut --enable-libogg --enable-libtheora --enable-libvorbis --enable-libx264 --enable-libxvid --cpu=i686 --enable-memalign-hack --extra-ldflags=-static
libavutil version: 49.4.1
libavcodec version: 51.40.4
libavformat version: 51.12.1
built on Jul 20 2007 18:03:34, gcc: 4.2.0
Input #0, wav, from 'pipe:':
Duration: N/A, bitrate: 768 kb/s
Stream #0.0: Audio: pcm_s16le, 48000 Hz, mono, 768 kb/s
Output #0, ac3, to 'D:\SOS2007\avi_sos.ac3':
Stream #0.0: Audio: ac3, 48000 Hz, mono, 0 kb/s
Stream mapping:
Stream #0.0 -> #0.0
Error while opening codec for output stream #0.0 - maybe incorrect parameters such as bit_rate, rate, width or height

----------------------
End of log for job1
----------------------

scott1256ca

30th August 2007, 20:42

Hello:

I'm trying to convert an mpeg2 file to x264 and I'm new to meGui.

I can get as far as getting an x264 video file (dead.mp4), and an aac audio file (dead_aud.mp4), which used ND AAC as the codec, and mp4-aac as the container.
Used the following avisynth script
------------------------------------------
LoadPlugin("d:\dgmpgdec\DGDecode.dll")
Loadplugin("d:\dgmpgdec\AC3Source.dll")
MPEG2Source("Dead.d2v")
AC3Source("dead.ac3")
trim(0,1200)
------------------------------------------

I can watch the video fine by itself (dead.mp4), I
can listen to the audio fine by itself (dead_aud.mp4). Both are samples of just 20 seconds or so.

Where I run into problems is with muxing. I tried to follow this
http://mewiki.project357.com/wiki/Guides:Basic_Guide/Muxing
so I chose adaptive muxer
video input is dead.mp4
audio input is dead_aud.mp4
no subtitle language
no chapters
container is mkv
output file is test.mkv (with full path)
click queue
wind up with 2 jobs in the queue
first to create test1.mp4
second to create test.mkv
first job seems to succeed. Second seems to fail. There is no output file.

I am running 0.2.5.10.1007
end of the Log says

----------------------
Starting postprocessing of job...
Job completed successfully and deletion of intermediate files is activated
Postprocessing finished!
End of log for job1-1
-------------------------------------------------------

Looking for job processor for job...
Processor found!

------------------------------------------------------

Starting job job1-2 at 12:33:26 PM
Starting preprocessing of job...
Preprocessing finished!
encoder commandline:
-o "D:\deadwood_test\test.mkv" "D:\deadwood_test\test1.mp4" --no-clusters-in-meta-seek
Processing ended at 12:33:26 PM
----------------------

Log for job job1-2

----------------------
Starting postprocessing of job...
Job completed successfully and deletion of intermediate files is activated
Found intermediate output file 'D:\deadwood_test\test1.mp4', deleting...Deletion succeeded.
Postprocessing finished!
End of log for job1-2
-------------------------------------------------------

starting encoder failed with error Process has exited

I also tried mkv muxer, using the same settings. That creates one job that should make test.mkv
Job says it succeeds, but there is no output file.

So what am I doing wrong? Thank in advance for your help.

Kurtnoise

30th August 2007, 21:05

did you specify mkvmerge path in the settings ?

Kurtnoise

30th August 2007, 21:08

Try to encode AC3 file using new ffmpeg build (http://ffdshow.faireal.net/mirror/ffmpeg/).
It seems something changed in comandline options (bitrate settings)...
yes...

Should be :
fmpeg.exe -i - -y -acodec ac3 -ab 256k "D:\SOS2007\avi_sos.ac3"

fight2win

30th August 2007, 21:42

works for me. try using the update function in the tools menu and report back.

update window is not appearing....what to do????

scott1256ca

30th August 2007, 21:55

As a follow up to the above, I tried muxing to mp4 only. That at least creates a muxed mp4 file. Something was wrong with the path for mkvmerge. Now it complains about missing libiconv.dll. I downloaded and installed mkvtoolnix. I think I'll be ok with that. Thanks.

Sharktooth

31st August 2007, 02:54

update window is not appearing....what to do????
try reinstalling it from scratch... but that's really weird.

B.F.

31st August 2007, 02:57

yes...

Should be :
fmpeg.exe -i - -y -acodec ac3 -ab 256k "D:\SOS2007\avi_sos.ac3"

Any chance to fix it in MeGUI?

Sharktooth

31st August 2007, 03:09

yep. post it in the Megui project bugtracker at SourceForge.

dansus

16th September 2007, 21:42

Hi, how do i make Megui use mencoder (mp4) instead of x264.exe?

thanks

check

17th September 2007, 01:17

use it for what?

dansus

18th September 2007, 00:02

To make x264 (mp4) files

Im assumed you can either use x264.exe or mencoder to do the donkey work, but how do you know which one its using?

If i select x264/mp4 under Codec/File format, how do i select mencoder to do the encoding.

check

18th September 2007, 01:16

nope, only the x264 CLI is ever used.

hristoff2

3rd October 2007, 21:57

As Megui's using CEF's build anyway, I'd appreciate a solution to work with the --aq option. I really like MeGui for batch encoding (I mean like..encoding a series without having to do things manually with x264.exe) but I'd like to use --aq, too. :)

check

4th October 2007, 01:36

It's been gone over before -- aq won't be added to the GUI as it is not in SVN.

Atak_Snajpera

4th October 2007, 01:51

hristoff2 if you want AQ you can try my tool. It's a lot simpler than MeGUI.

Sharktooth

4th October 2007, 04:04

you can still set aq in the Custom commandline options in the zones tab (yeah, i know it's not an intuitive place...)

dade49

4th October 2007, 06:09

Quick question.

I'm not a n00b, but I'm new to the x264 encoder. I've been using XviD for a long time on 480p streams, and am now working with HD 1080p streams.

I know there is no exact answer to my question, but I'd like some opinions. I am encoding MP2 & VC1 streams to h264/AVC with MeGUI in an mkv container. I am using the HQ-Slow profile, but am upping the bitrate. The video is 1920X818 after cropping. I ran a sample at 12Mb avg bitrate. It seems to look pretty good, but I'm wondering if I can get more compression out of it, while retaining enough quality. Can anyone give me their opinion of what bitrate I should be running on a 1080p stream? Thanks.

Atak_Snajpera

4th October 2007, 12:45

I would never go below 12Mbps for 1080p and 6Mbps for 720p. Less bits means less details. However you use 818p (BTW It should be 816p) so you can lower bitrate to about 8-9 Mbps. If I were you I would use Constant Quality 22 instead of 2-pass.

Nic-

4th October 2007, 13:13

i have a small question.
MeGUI work fine for me.
But today, i queue 3 jobs : 1 encode audio, 2-1 & 2-2 encode video x264 2 pass automated. and go out for work.
but when i go back, the job 2-2 didn't start, when i move my mouse , it begin start encode pass 2.
How can i make it auto start encode to finish all job like before ?
it just happen today and i try again, it didn't auto start the job 2-2.
Vista and MeGui 0.2.5.1007 with all component up to date.
Thank You

check

4th October 2007, 13:54

dade, it highly depends on the source. For low detail anime, you could probably use 6mbits and still have a decent image. For a high motion action movie, you will find 12mbit is the minimum. What sort of content do you have?

@nic, can you reproduce this error? It sounds really weird...

dade49

5th October 2007, 04:42

Atak_Snajpera: I know it should be 816 because of the 2.35:1 aspect, but 816 isn't mod16, and as such, MeGUI throws an error. Your width/height has to be divisible by 16. If I'm wrong, please correct me.

check: It's an HD_DVD movie. Was in a VC-1 format. Not anime. I may go up to 14 or 15 Mbit. Trying to balance quality and filesize.

foxyshadis

5th October 2007, 08:08

You might want to check your math on that, 816 is actually mod16. If it threw an error then there's something weird going on. (Random spaz?)

Atak_Snajpera

5th October 2007, 22:28

dade49
Next time use calculator :)

Sharktooth

7th October 2007, 03:59

report it in the MeGUI bug tracker on sourceforge.

dade49

7th October 2007, 08:07

I know it should be 816 because of the 2.35:1 aspect, but 816 isn't mod16, and as such, MeGUI throws an error. Your width/height has to be divisible by 16.

Ok, I totally screwed up the explanation on this one.

Movie aspect is 2.35:1.
Width is 1920.
This means height should be 817. You shouldn't have a height that is an odd number. I had originally used height 818, but 818 is not mod16 (not evenly divisible by 16). So I used 1920X816, which works fine. 1920X818 threw an error in MeGUI.

12Mbps seems to do the trick in this case. Thanks all.

RandomEngy

7th November 2007, 05:40

I'm trying to encode a 1280x720 30FPS video encoded with PCM sound and the Lagarith lossless codec. I have a very simple script:

AviSource("d:\docs\heavy_test.avi")

When I try to open it, it gives the following error:

MeGUI encountered a fatal error and may not be able to proceed. Reason: Attempted to read or write protected memory. This is often an indication that other memory is corrupt. Source of exception: megui stacktrace: at MeGUI.AviSynthClip.dimzon_avs_getvframe(IntPtr avs, IntPtr buf, Int32 stride, Int32 frm)
at MeGUI.AvsFile.AvsVideoReader.ReadFrameBitmap(Int32 position)
at MeGUI.VideoPlayer.positionSlider_Scroll(Object sender, EventArgs e)
at MeGUI.VideoPlayer.loadVideo(MainForm mainForm, String path, PREVIEWTYPE type, Boolean hasAR, Boolean inlineAvs)
at MeGUI.VideoPlayer.loadVideo(MainForm mainForm, String path, PREVIEWTYPE type, Boolean hasAR)
at MeGUI.VideoEncodingComponent.openAvisynthScript(String fileName)
at MeGUI.VideoEncodingComponent.openVideoFile(String fileName)
at MeGUI.VideoEncodingComponent.videoInput_FileSelected(FileBar sender, FileBarEventArgs args)
at MeGUI.FileBar.triggerEvent()
at MeGUI.FileBar.setFilename(String filename)
at MeGUI.FileBar.openButton_Click(Object sender, EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnClick(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnClick(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs mevent)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp(Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ButtonBase.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Button.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)

I was originally trying to encode it to x264 with the VFW codec, but that failed and I was instructed to try it with MeGui. I'm running it under Vista with administrator privileges.

Is there anything special I need to be doing? Are these codecs/resolutions supported?

(edit) I guess Vista support is lacking. Disabling the preview seems to work for now.

Sharktooth

7th November 2007, 15:01

yes, we have some problems with some vista installations...
however ensure you have the very latest development build (0.2.6.1035).

BlueCup

11th November 2007, 00:42

I'm having the same problem with 0.2.6.1035 & 0.2.6.1036 on XP.

EDIT: I missed the dev thread and the fix is to delete any jobs in the JOBS folder. Worked for me.

Knuffi

11th November 2007, 10:15

As there are heavy changes going on, I want to repeat a wish of mine:
In earlier versions there was a little checkbox on the queue-page managing the behaviour of MEGUI after encoding. This was removed and the "settings" got one feature more.
Is it possible to bring back that little checkbox or perhaps radio-boxes on the queue-page?
How about giving a default value for the behavior in the settings dialog and a "only once"-behavior in a radio box on the queue page?

Example: I put the default behavior on the settings page to "do nothing" and work with it. If I want to convert a movie at night, I can set the "only once"-radio box on the queue page to "shutdown". After the encoding, the computer shuts down and the next time I start MeGUI, it is set back to "do nothing".

What are you thinking about that? Is it worth a try?

If this is the wrong thread for that kind of thing, please tell me.

Sephiroth0000

11th November 2007, 13:32

I do not know if anyone here can help me but to cut a long story short I normally transcode my EVO to WMV with 5.1 surround sound. I am attempting now to make the EVO files compatiable for the PS3 and I am using MEGUI after I get the audio.avi file (5.1) but when I try to change it to AAC with MEGUI it comes up with error. It does not say anything else just ERROR whilst everything else is queued up. I have only installed MEGUI and would just like to know if there is something else I should be installing? Thanks for your help

The more we share our information the faster we move along as a whole.

Kurtnoise

11th November 2007, 13:41

As there are heavy changes going on, I want to repeat a wish of mine:

In earlier versions there was a little checkbox on the queue-page managing the behaviour of MEGUI after encoding. This was removed and the "settings" got one feature more.
Is it possible to bring back that little checkbox or perhaps radio-boxes on the queue-page?

How about giving a default value for the behavior in the settings dialog and a "only once"-behavior in a radio box on the queue page?

Example: I put the default behavior on the settings page to "do nothing" and work with it. If I want to convert a movie at night, I can set the "only once"-radio box on the queue page to "shutdown". After the encoding, the computer shuts down and the next time I start MeGUI, it is set back to "do nothing".

What are you thinking about that? Is it worth a try?

If this is the wrong thread for that kind of thing, please tell me.
I'm ok with the first idea (i.e can be done easily)...could you put a feature request here (http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=156112&atid=798479).

Kurtnoise

11th November 2007, 13:42

Knuffi

11th November 2007, 14:19

could you put a feature request here (http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=156112&atid=798479).

Done.

Sephiroth0000

11th November 2007, 16:38

which encoder did you use ?

try also to put an avs script instead of the AVI file as input directly...I mean

AVISource("...my path\audio.avi")

How do you mean? I attempted to change it to AAC which is Nero (supported on PS3) but where would it say what encoder? I am going to try the AVS idea...thankyou :) will let you know the result

Sephiroth0000

12th November 2007, 12:38

The AVS does not work. Maybe if I explain abit more. I have a Demuxed Video file (vc1 file extension), which I have done both in GraphEdit and AVS to work which it does. Now with the audio I made a 5.1 WAV file from the originial audio which I then made into an audio.avi file. Now when I try to set MEGUI to encode it the audio faisl straight away. I do not think my codecs are set right or anything and to be fair with everyone im ot too sure how to go about it. MEGUI loads up the video fine (will not encode though because it has not done the audio) but with audio it just saids error!? If anyone has any idea I would be very appreciative. Ultimately I would like to make the file play on my PS3. Im not sure what the video codec should be for it either. I know the PS3 supports MP4 and AVC.

The more we share our information the faster we move along as a whole

Vesi

13th November 2007, 21:31

i use megui-stable 0.2.6.1036. today i got update info to 1038, and when I click on update i get this error. any idea why?

http://maxupload.com/img/F68A9338.png

Tanma

13th November 2007, 21:50

The last core of Megui (0.2.6.1038) just doesn't work, it returns a lot of object and reference errors before start.

I don't recommend installing it.

kumi

13th November 2007, 22:32

I get the exact same error as Vesi, and I also got that same fatal error for 0.2.6.1036->0.2.6.1037 core update.

Maccara

13th November 2007, 23:53

If you installed stable and updated first before switching to devel servers, you can fix those errors by manually grabbing http://megui.org/auto/megui-libs_1028.zip and unzipping the contents to megui install dir.

kumi

14th November 2007, 00:39

That did the trick for me, thanks.

avdw

14th November 2007, 17:49

Weird.... Now MeGUI shows Core version = 0.3.0.0

Does that mean "Leave us alone for f*ckings sake ! " ?

Vesi

14th November 2007, 20:07

I get the exact same problem as avdw, after overwrithing with the above dll file posted by Maccara, MeGUI shows Core version = 0.3.0.0
And second problem after updating megui i get update info for STAudio_v3, after each time i open megui any idea why this things happen in megui?

bira

15th November 2007, 03:46

0.2.6.1038 is detecting Input DAR as 16:9 PAL instead of NTSC.

Edit: Actually, I don't know when it started.

bira

15th November 2007, 04:18

With 0.2.5.1007 I get global MeGUI_dar 47:20

With 0.2.6.1038 I get global MeGUI_dar 1554:625

Please help!

Vesi

15th November 2007, 11:21

I get the exact same problem as bira 0.2.6.1038 is detecting Input DAR ITU:16.9 NTSC as a ITU: 16.9 PAL. I have checked my file with DGindex, and DGIndex shows Aspect Ratio as 16:9 and Video Type NTSC

bira

15th November 2007, 13:32

The difference in AR comes from the auto crop results.

When auto cropping I was getting

crop( 8, 62, -8, -66) which gave me 2.35 AR

now I am getting

crop( 0, 62, 0, -66) which gives me 2.46 AR

Don't know which one is the right one.

Edit:

Before 0.2.6.1027 (the revision after Fix #1813777 (Autocrop problem)) I was getting 2.35 AR. After the fix I am getting 2.46 AR when autocropping.

mjr4077au

16th November 2007, 03:52

Technically, No film since 1970 has been 2.35:1. You really should be setting films Made 1970+ to 2.39:1. It can be manually set as 239:100.

mdchaser

16th November 2007, 08:06

kumi

16th November 2007, 08:13

@mdchaser:

have you tried re-installing .NET and MeGUI? It was suggested as a fix. I haven't tried it yet, though.

http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1832210&group_id=156112&atid=798476

Taurus

16th November 2007, 09:01

@mdchaser
Just for troubleshooting:
Flush your Avisynth plugins folder. Leave only the ones installed by MeGui in place and of course the ones that come with a fresh Avisynth install. Move or rename all others.
Verify dgdecode.dll in Avisynth\plugins folder and dgindex.exe in megui\tools\dgindex folder are at the same version number

Kurtnoise

16th November 2007, 09:37

problem comes from the MediaInfoWrapper.dll not Avisynth...

Taurus

16th November 2007, 11:42

problem comes from the MediaInfoWrapper.dll not Avisynth...
Strange. On my side everything works as it should :confused: :D
So maybe just Vistas bells and whistles....

vtn54

16th November 2007, 11:44

problem comes from the MediaInfoWrapper.dll not Avisynth...

Exactly
I have a similar problem but replacing MediaInfoWrapper.dll with Previous version solved my problem .

vtn54

16th November 2007, 11:49

Hi, I'm not sure exactly what caused this but I receive this error every time I try to encode a DVD:

http://rscpro.com/borlatips/capture.jpg

Here are the steps I take:

Launch megui

tools > dv2 creator

I select the first vob and the first audio track. I then check the two boxes at the bottom of the window and click queue

I then go to the queue tab and run the job

Once the job is finished I click tools > anisynth script creator and use the .dv2 file as input. As soon as I click ok I receive the error. I've installed the latest megui, then gone back to the previous stable version. I've re-installed avisynth as well as the helix yuv codec. I'm at a loss, does anyone have any ideas?

Here...
you can replace "MediaInfoWrapper.dll" in the megui folder with this one :

MediaInfoWrapper.dll.rar (http://rapidshare.com/files/70652570/MediaInfoWrapper.rar.html)

This may solve your problem.

Ronin-7

16th November 2007, 15:02

Thanks for that the older version solved the same problem for me too.

kumi

16th November 2007, 17:31

Same here, thanks.

@Taurus: this is not a Vista-only bug. I have Windows XP SP2.

mdchaser

16th November 2007, 18:13

Thanks for the dll!!!! That fixed the problem!

mdchaser

17th November 2007, 02:48

Yay, I can get further but I still can't seem to encode anything. Now that I've replaced the dll I don't get an error until I try to encode the project, it fails on the audio every time:

http://rscpro.com/borlatips/capture2.jpg

Any thoughts on this one? I've tried numerous different source files all with the same results...

Thanks!

kumi

17th November 2007, 08:00

mdchaser

17th November 2007, 09:35

mdchaser: What kind of audio does DGIndex report for your problem tracks? 2/0? 1+1? IIRC, 1+1 AC3 tracks cannot be opened by NicAC3Source (and by extension MeGUI, maybe. I'm not 100% sure how the audio encoding part works.)

It detects it as ac3 as far as I can tell, here is an image of the main window:

http://rscpro.com/borlatips/capture3.jpg

I've actually encoded this movie before without any issues, this started happening as soon as the avisynth script error started... I did replace the current dll with the old one that was posted here, could that have something to do with it?

Thanks!

Jeff R.

Kurtnoise

17th November 2007, 12:24

:logfile:

mdchaser

17th November 2007, 18:21

I didn't realize there was a log tab, I should pay more attention. It was due to lack of the nero aac encoder, oops. Thanks for the help, it seems to be working again :). I do have a couple of videos that won't encode the audio properly, the audio is not synced with the video. It's a constant amount throughout the entire video so the framerate is accurate. Is there a way to preview the audio/video sync so as to correct it? I used to do it in virtualdub with the divx videos I created but thats not an option with mp4...

Thanks!

Jeff R.

Nic-

18th November 2007, 06:45

today, when i click yes in update form, it always show this dialog
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/31/40823616xh8.jpg

and after that, the program close

omega156

18th November 2007, 08:37

The same happens to me, it happens when i start updating :(

EDIT: It seems that by changing the file "ICSharpCode.SharpZipLib.dll" for a newer one (search for ICSharpCode SharpZipLib in google), this problem gets fixed.

knary

18th November 2007, 16:28

today, when i click yes in update form, it always show this dialog
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/31/40823616xh8.jpg

and after that, the program close
Have the same problem

bluebebe

18th November 2007, 18:06

Here...
you can replace "MediaInfoWrapper.dll" in the megui folder with this one :

MediaInfoWrapper.dll.rar (http://www.4filehosting.com/file/84607/MediaInfoWrapper-rar.html)

This may solve your problem.

hi thanks for this hint. can u upload this dll to another hoster? the file is down on your provided mirror.

vtn54

18th November 2007, 22:03

hi thanks for this hint. can u upload this dll to another hoster? the file is down on your provided mirror.

Rapidshare Link:

MediaInfoWrapper.dll.rar (http://rapidshare.com/files/70652570/MediaInfoWrapper.rar.html)

buzzqw

18th November 2007, 22:30

free direct link mirror

http://www.64k.it/andres/data/a/MediaInfoWrapper.rar

BHH

totya

19th November 2007, 12:47

Hi all!

Auto compressibility check (ex. GordianKnot) not available in this application.
Will this be in the future?
Because this is very important function, xvid profiles depend compressibility...

Else...my CPU is dual-core, first xvid pass is OK, but second pass only one cpu used.

Thanx!

Pitbull_Raven

19th November 2007, 18:39

Have the same problem

Me three!

Knuffi

19th November 2007, 21:50

Today I found meGUI 0.3.0.0 on http://x264.nl/

How come, that it is not in the update pipe? I think, something went wrong ...

Sharktooth

20th November 2007, 10:16

nothing is wrong. 0.3.x is the new development (unstable) version...

Sharktooth

20th November 2007, 10:18

Knuffi

20th November 2007, 15:59

Can you give me a server address for the auto update servers for the development branch 0.3.x?
http://megui.org/auto/
and
http://mewiki.project357.com/auto
only give 2.6.xx ...

Sharktooth

20th November 2007, 17:37

yep, but they're good. i didnt build 0.3.x coz i still hadnt time...

totya

20th November 2007, 19:00

Totya, yes. CP will be there in future versions.

Thx!

About xvid, works here.

Impossible, MeGui clean install, and second pass only uses one CPU with xvid. This is bug, xvid or MeGUI.

weaver4

20th November 2007, 20:41

I know this is really silly but I am getting this error on every file I update on the latest version of MeGui

"Error: Could not unzip x264. Deleting file. Please run updater again..."

I have ZipCentral installed so my computer does have a copy of unzip program.

I am using Vista....which is awful.

I did a complete reinstall from scratch.

check

20th November 2007, 22:47

workaround: manually download the x264 file from the server and use that.

weaver4

20th November 2007, 23:25

I should of been more specific. It happens on every file I try to update not just the x264.

check

21st November 2007, 05:13

what .NET runtimes do you have installed?

Kurtnoise

21st November 2007, 08:33

I should of been more specific. It happens on every file I try to update not just the x264.
remove update_cache folder and retry an update...

mdw

23rd November 2007, 23:17

Is it only me who finds meGUI to be one big bug? It keeps freezing, GUI elements suddenly stop working, switching tabs doing nothing, meGUI won't close (need to be killed), or closes but remains running and so on. To add insult to injury it just stopped to work at all after autoupdate. Is this normal or is there something wrong I do to it?

-mdw

check

24th November 2007, 03:03

mdw, totally uninstall it and reinstall from the latest version on sourceforge. Autoupdate is still somewhat flaky when updating stuff.

mdw

24th November 2007, 08:42

mdw, totally uninstall it and reinstall from the latest version on sourceforge. Autoupdate is still somewhat flaky when updating stuff.

I did that before multiple times. Now I reinstalled to the newest version again and it looks better.

-mdw

vtn54

24th November 2007, 09:38

Knuffi

24th November 2007, 10:00

Thanks for bringing 0.3 in!

Vesi

26th November 2007, 04:09

I get error when I load the avs file, that MSVCR70.DLL not found. i didn't had this problem before, just got it now. any idea?

Kurtnoise

26th November 2007, 07:55

:script:

Vesi

26th November 2007, 12:12

DGDecode_mpeg2source("C:\Documents and Settings\vesi\Desktop\Test\test.d2v",cpu=2)
AssumeTFF().Telecide(guide=1).Decimate()
crop( 2, 54, -2, -50)

Spline36Resize(640,272) # Spline36 (Neutral)

Kurtnoise

26th November 2007, 15:45

make a search to try to find this runtime dll in your hard drive. If it's missing, grab it from the internet.

Vesi

26th November 2007, 15:49

graping it from internet, would be save?

Sharktooth

26th November 2007, 16:17

get it here: http://www.dll-files.com/dllindex/dll-files.shtml?msvcr70

Vesi

26th November 2007, 18:17

thanks Sharktooth. that did the trick

3r1c

28th November 2007, 02:20

needs to be run as administrator on vista or it shows a useless confusing error message.

it should really auto acquire admin rights if it needs it, or at least a notice that it needs to be run as admin.

Sharktooth

28th November 2007, 14:42

3r1c, yes, megui needs the administrator rights to run on Vista.
it should really auto acquire admin rights if it needs it, or at least a notice that it needs to be run as admin.we'll see what we can do.
however i added an informative news on SF: http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=759256

mdw

28th November 2007, 19:57

I did that before multiple times. Now I reinstalled to the newest version again and it looks better.

-mdw

Well, after few days I can say it's no better... The symptom that annoys me most is that when I do "Enqueue" the tabs stop to work and I have to kill meGUI to get access tu "Queues" and start encoding.

-mdw

Sharktooth

29th November 2007, 04:33

there is a proper bug tracker to report bugs. unless you do that, it wont be fixed.
and btw this is the first time i hear of such a bug...

mdw

1st December 2007, 16:21

there is a proper bug tracker to report bugs. unless you do that, it wont be fixed.
and btw this is the first time i hear of such a bug...

OK, it's under id 1842344 in the bug tracker.

Sharktooth

2nd December 2007, 13:49

thanx

daWsOn_s

9th December 2007, 01:41

Hello, I've always encoded with megui in x264 with no problems. Now I want to use Xvid but the settings for that don't work. If set the bitrate from a profile (tried all of xvid's) or/and from the bitrate calculator it will compress ALWAYS at 700kbit! I'm getting crazy, why??

Sorry, wrong topic can someone delete this one?

Vesi

14th December 2007, 01:04

how can i set this two quantizer for example in megui advance tab to
quantizer ratio=1.60
quantizer offset=0.80

when i check there i am not able to put some small numbers and dots. or i need the stable xvid for doing this?

Akatsuker

28th December 2007, 01:27

Hi, I'm not sure exactly what caused this but I receive this error every time I try to encode a DVD:

http://rscpro.com/borlatips/capture.jpg

Here are the steps I take:

Launch megui

tools > dv2 creator

I select the first vob and the first audio track. I then check the two boxes at the bottom of the window and click queue

I then go to the queue tab and run the job

Once the job is finished I click tools > anisynth script creator and use the .dv2 file as input. As soon as I click ok I receive the error. I've installed the latest megui, then gone back to the previous stable version. I've re-installed avisynth as well as the helix yuv codec. I'm at a loss, does anyone have any ideas?

So, vtn54 answered:

Here...
you can replace "MediaInfoWrapper.dll" in the megui folder with this one :

MediaInfoWrapper.dll.rar (http://rapidshare.com/files/70652570/MediaInfoWrapper.rar.html)

This may solve your problem.

I have the same problem mdchaser had, and replaced the MediaInfoWrapper.dll on the megui folder, but i still have this problem.
Any other solution? What should I do?

jeffy

1st January 2008, 01:16

Question:
http://mewiki.project357.com/wiki/Profiles

How should look an Avisynth template, where the loading of a video in MPEG-2 format is done this way, with eg. changed idct or cpu2 string.

DGDecode_mpeg2source("something",idct=4)

Thank you.

Shaocaholica

5th January 2008, 01:19

So with the latest MeGUI, do I need to manually turn on multi-cpu support for x264 encoding or is it on by default? Any manual commands/setup I should use for a 4-cpu system or are the defaults fine?

Carpo

5th January 2008, 09:42

leave it as it is - it will automaticaly pick up the number of threads to use

duckdown

9th January 2008, 05:38

This program is driving me friggin nuts..

It refuses to create a properly sized output file for me for my xvid encode.

I encoded the audio track properly in mp3 format, then load it into the bitrate calculator, and choose file size as 350mb.

It then gives me a bitrate of "1015" which sounds right for my 43 minute show, and it shows the "video file size" as being 320 megs or what not, and I press APPLY on it, yet the god damn final size of the encoded 2ndpass .avi file is 500+ bloody megs?

What the hell gives? Why isn't it making a properly sized final AVI?

And why does it say in the job queue that the codec being used is "ASP" when I've clearly selected Xvid everywhere?

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/3096/gaymeguivk2.jpg

This is stressing me the hell out, the final AVI is over 500megs every time without Audio

LigH

9th January 2008, 07:52

1) Stop swearing.

2) XviD is one specific incarnation of the "MPEG4 Advanced Simple Profile" (ASP) standard -- in contrast to x264, creating "MPEG4 Advanced Video Coding" (AVC/H.264) material. Get basic knowledge before blaming.

Sharktooth

9th January 2008, 13:46

if you look at your settings you will see they're completely screwed for a 2 pass encoding.
you probabli started from a xvid preset without loading the default values...

SH1986

10th January 2008, 00:26

Hi

First of all nice program :) Never had any kind of trouble with it.. I would like to ask, will there be support for DGAVCdec so the possiblity to make .avc files from H264 sources would be there? And maby support to open the .dga(DGAVCdec) in the AviSynth Script creator? to make the .avs file. Sorry if this is the wrong place i made my question..

Best Regards..

Sharktooth

10th January 2008, 00:39

it's already on the to-do list.

duckdown

10th January 2008, 04:26

sorry , but if the settings in the picture are wrong what needs to be corrected?

thanks

check

10th January 2008, 09:10

duckdown: post your log, and use one of the included xvid profiles if you are unsure of what settings to use.

foxyshadis

10th January 2008, 20:28

If you use the percentage profiles (https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=119399) it's very important to read up on them and understand how they work. MeGUI really needs basic no-effort profiles since it's obvious that the integration to find the best profile isn't going to happen anytime soon now.

weaver4

12th January 2008, 16:29

I noticed that the NDACCLC-96kbps audio profile is too low on my ipod even with the "increase volume automatically" enabled. When I encode with StaxRip it is at least 15db louder. BTW: it is also low on my TV playing on my PopCorn Hour.

Poopoo

13th January 2008, 00:31

Hi, using the latest version I encounter a crash when using the 'One Click Encoder' mode.

Everything goes well as long as I don't remove the 2nd Audio Track tab.(One Click Encoder/Encoder Config) If I encode using the standard 2 audio track tabs, the audio gets muxed at twice the normal speed, and thus stops halfway the movie, If I rightclick the "Audio Track 2" tab and select remove, and then click Go!, it crashes...
http://i13.tinypic.com/80zgute.jpg

dejected_is_me

13th January 2008, 05:52

i did a one click job; extracted ifo on progresive source, heavy metal 2000. job went nice and i told it to split my 1.4 gig movie into two 700 mb movies. i got the first one perfect the second one was 7 mb and could not be rendered. i posted the relevent log enteries:

Log for job job5

Job commandline: "C:\Megui\tools\mkvmerge\MKVtoolnix\mkvmerge.exe" -o "F:\DVD Encodes\Encodes\HM\Mux\Heavy Metal 2000_-_x264 - 5.mkv" -A -S "F:\DVD Encodes\Encodes\HM\encodes\HM2000_Video.mkv" -a 1 -D -S "F:\DVD Encodes\Encodes\HM\encodes\HM2000 T02 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms_audio.m4a" --chapters "F:\DVD Encodes\Encodes\HM\raws\VTS_01_PGC_01 - Chapter Information - OGG.txt" --split 700M --no-clusters-in-meta-seek
mkvmerge v2.1.0 ('Another Place To Fall') built on Aug 19 2007 13:39:56
'F:\DVD Encodes\Encodes\HM\encodes\HM2000_Video.mkv': Using the Matroska demultiplexer.
'F:\DVD Encodes\Encodes\HM\encodes\HM2000 T02 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms_audio.m4a': Using the Quicktime/MP4 demultiplexer.
'F:\DVD Encodes\Encodes\HM\encodes\HM2000_Video.mkv' track 1: Using the MPEG-4 part 10 (AVC) video output module.
'F:\DVD Encodes\Encodes\HM\encodes\HM2000 T02 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms_audio.m4a' track 1: Using the AAC output module.
The file 'F:\DVD Encodes\Encodes\HM\Mux\Heavy Metal 2000_-_x264 - 5-001.mkv' has been opened for writing.

The cue entries (the index) are being written...
The file 'F:\DVD Encodes\Encodes\HM\Mux\Heavy Metal 2000_-_x264 - 5-002.mkv' has been opened for writing.
Assertion failed: TimecodeDelay >= int16(0x8000) && TimecodeDelay <= int16(0x7FFF), file ../../src/KaxCluster.cpp, line 295

This application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an unusual way.
Please contact the application's support team for more information.

------------------------------------------------------

Starting postprocessing of job...

Job completed successfully and deletion of intermediate files is activated

Found intermediate output file 'F:\DVD Encodes\Encodes\HM\encodes\HM2000_Video.mkv', deleting...
Deletion succeeded.

Found intermediate output file 'F:\DVD Encodes\Encodes\HM\encodes\HM2000 T02 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms_audio.m4a', deleting...
Deletion succeeded.

Postprocessing finished!

End of log for job5
------------------------------------------------------

Kurtnoise

13th January 2008, 09:25

@Poopoo: by using which build ? (dev or stable one ?)

@dejected_is_me: you should ask to Mosu for that...

The cue entries (the index) are being written...
The file 'F:\DVD Encodes\Encodes\HM\Mux\Heavy Metal 2000_-_x264 - 5-002.mkv' has been opened for writing.
Assertion failed: TimecodeDelay >= int16(0x8000) && TimecodeDelay <= int16(0x7FFF), file ../../src/KaxCluster.cpp, line 295

This application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an unusual way.
Please contact the application's support team for more information.

Poopoo

13th January 2008, 12:41

@Poopoo: by using which build ? (dev or stable one ?)

Hi Kurtnoise13,

I use version 0.2.6.1043.

Also, If I play the generated MP3 file with foobar2000, it also plays at double speed, so the problem must be in job 13 below:

Log for job job13

Input: Channels=2, BitsPerSample=16, SampleRate=48000Hz
Command line used: C:\Program Files\megui\tools\lame\lame.exe -b 128 --cbr -h --silent - "D:\My DVDs\Kyoto\Kyoto T01 2_0ch 224Kbps DELAY 0ms_audio.mp3"
------------------------------------------------------

Starting postprocessing of job...

Job completed successfully and deletion of intermediate files is activated

Postprocessing finished!

End of log for job13

EDIT : Seems like deselecting "Force decoding via DirectShow" and "Improve accuracy using...." have fixed the mp3 playing 3 times normal speed.

Still, there is the crash in "One Click Encoder" using only 1 audio track.

3r1c

13th January 2008, 17:56

Just thought i would mention this weird bug...

If i connect to the pc running megui with remote desktop while megui is processing (eg x264) then disconnect the remote session, the next job will always fail with a strange error and nothing in the logs.

MeGUI encountered a fatal error and may not be able to proceed.
Reason: Error creating window handle.

inman

20th January 2008, 05:09

I am using MeGUI 0.2.6.1042. I need to mux an MP4 audio with x264 video. The problem is the delay value has to be 35268ms. MeGUI doesn't allow delay to be greater than 10000ms while muxing.

Any solution to this?

check

20th January 2008, 05:21

just use mp4box by itself. There's a standalone GUI in the form of YAMB. google should find both, but kurnoise bundles them together.

inman

20th January 2008, 09:34

Tried MP4Box in both commandline and YAMB. The delay isn't working. And it looks like I am not the only one having this issue. I saw someone mentioning it might be an issue with Haali Media Splitter skipping the delay part or something.

Any other MP4 muxing software that supports delay?

Kurtnoise

20th January 2008, 09:48

35+ seconds is not a delay imo but more or less an issue with your stream...

inman

20th January 2008, 11:30

35+ seconds is not a delay imo but more or less an issue with your stream...

Yea I know it is a very abnormal value for a delay. But that is how I get the stream.

Anyway I found a solution to this. I used a program called Delaycut to correct the delay in the AC3 file itself. Then encoded it to MP4 with MeGUI, muxed it and now everything is fine.

Sharktooth

21st January 2008, 01:47

the DVD was badly ripped (possibly due a copy protection). use a proper program to rip it (ripit4me, dvdfab HD decrypter...)

spotter

30th January 2008, 06:40

Taurus

30th January 2008, 07:37

I'm trying to encode Ratatouille with MeGUI and the audio and video are out of sync.

It seems that there are a few seconds of extra black frames of video that are not in the VOBs (namely the disney logo comes up 1-2s into watching the DVD, but 3-4s when watching the generated h264 file).

any ideas?
Nothing for MeGui to worry about :p.
Decrypt it with another Decrypter.
By the way: DVD or BD Version?
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=132500&highlight=Ratatouille

donnyj

12th February 2008, 12:41

I can't find subq, agh....

I have searched around in MeGUI for an hour now... When doing a search for "subq" in the .xml profiles, I can't find any reference there either.... I've also tried searching this thread... (I mention all this to say that I tried to RTFM and put effort into finding before asking)

I'm probably just blind...

When setting codec to x264, is there a way to adjust subq (besides using the custom commandline options box)?

If not, what is the default?

Sharktooth

12th February 2008, 14:23

subq? what are you talking about?
maybe "subme" (referenced as Subpixel Refinement in the profile config window)...

donnyj

12th February 2008, 14:42

subq? what are you talking about?
maybe "subme" (referenced as Subpixel Refinement in the profile config window)...

I am sorry, I got the option confused because in MEncoder the same option is "subq"

"subq=<1−8> subpel refinement quality (for qpel) (default: 8 (high quality))"

Except the range appears to be 1-7 instead of 1-8 ???

I am asking this because I wanted to change to 6 as per: "Options which primarily affect speed and quality" (http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/menc-feat-x264.html)

Donny

Sharktooth

12th February 2008, 16:38

the list of modes are described in MeGUI's "Subpixel refinement" dropdown in the profile configuration.
from subme=1 to subme=5 there are no RD optimizations. submne=6 and 7 use RDO. the b-rdo (RDO for b-frames) option requires subme>=6 (this may be the subq=8 in mencoder).

donnyj

12th February 2008, 18:33

Sharktooth, thankyou very much for your help!

kuttichan

9th March 2008, 08:10

Hi all..

I am using Megui..

After I finish the steps for AviSynth Script creator...I am getting an error,where you include the audio input..checkout the SS below

http://maxupload.com/img/4593895E.jpg

Please help me with this..Thank you

check

9th March 2008, 08:16

Sorry, I'm not sure what you're trying to do. Are you trying to mux audio + video into one stream?

kuttichan

9th March 2008, 08:23

Sorry, I'm not sure what you're trying to do. Are you trying to mux audio + video into one stream?

After I have created the .avs file..I am trying to select ac3 for the audio input

kuttichan

9th March 2008, 08:25

I am following this basic Megui guide..and I am on 58/144

http://bt.dvd-guides.com/Basic%20MeGUI%20Guide%20by%20bT.htm

Kurtnoise

9th March 2008, 08:44

the delay of your audio stream is too high (30096ms)...

kuttichan

9th March 2008, 08:48

the delay of your audio stream is too high (30096ms)...

what should i do to decrease it??

Kurtnoise

9th March 2008, 08:53

kuttichan

9th March 2008, 09:24

well...the easiest way is to remove "DELAY 30096ms" in your filename. Then, reload it, transcode it and mux it with the video stream. If you have some desync after that, then you need to recreate your d2v and extract audio streams with an other tool like DVDDecrypter.

once....I rename it...but....at the end..the voice and the film do not match...so..i guess..re-naming won't solve this prob...

Taurus

9th March 2008, 10:42

once....I rename it...but....at the end..the voice and the film do not match...so..i guess..re-naming won't solve this prob...
Without looking at your input video it's all looking thru the crystal ball.
Try to cut a few frames at the beginning of the source with DGIndex
and upload them somewhere so we can look at them.
Or cut a few frames into the source and start the DGIndex project fom there.
Sometimes the first frames are truncated due to bad ripping.
Maybe your ripping process is not correct for this source or there is a copy protection involved.
And of course, it's not MeGui's fault......

kuttichan

9th March 2008, 10:52

Without looking at your input video it's all looking thru the crystal ball.
Try to cut a few frames at the beginning of the source with DGIndex
and upload them somewhere so we can look at them.
Or cut a few frames into the source and start the DGIndex project fom there.
Sometimes the first frames are truncated due to bad ripping.
Maybe your ripping process is not correct for this source or there is a copy protection involved.
And of course, it's not MeGui's fault......
but I have been facing this same prob with many of my DVDs....that's strange.:confused:

Kurtnoise

9th March 2008, 14:09

what ripper did you use ?

kuttichan

9th March 2008, 18:55

what ripper did you use ?

you mean the decrypter??

NoX1911

9th March 2008, 23:47

When using MP4 Muxer to mux a h264 and MP3 file there will be created a tmp file first that will be placed in the same folder as the final file. For best results with 2 HDDs it would be better to always change writing destinations. SourceFiles(HDD1)->TMP(HDD2)->Final(HDD1)

Edit:
The source video sound is 250ms late. I can correct this with KMP -250ms on the fly. In MeGUIs MP4 Muxer i have to set +750 to achieve the same result. Why is it that way? It doesn't seem to be a milliseconds (ms) value. More a byte shift or something.

Edit2: Forget it... audio delay doesn't seem to work at all in MeGUI muxer here.

Sharktooth

10th March 2008, 14:07

The delay is insanely big. Use an appropriate ripper, like DVDFab Decrypter, AnyDVD, DVD Decrypter... etc.
the error is due to a BAD rip.

NoX1911

10th March 2008, 18:03

Whatever.. it doesn't work. There are other threads here dealing with that problem. It seems general ignorance of (mostly) DS based filters that don't respect (iso standard based) delay data (meta).

So i did workaround this by deleting some MP3 frames with MP3DirectCut.

arrirc

13th March 2008, 13:42

Please help....

This is the first time I am attempting a X264 conversion from a DVD. Apart from AutoMKV, MeGUI is the other program which I am trying.
I have installed this program and updated completely. But I have one doubt, if I use vob files as inputs (which seems to be allowed), will it accept all the VOBs in series if the first VOB is only selected?
I am not really sure how to sort out this input issue or how to make an AVS script!

Sharktooth

13th March 2008, 13:49

:readguid:
there's also a wiki...

arrirc

13th March 2008, 14:05

:readguid:
there's also a wiki...

Sorry, but I could not clear my doubts and a lot of information really drowned me (a bit at least).

Sharktooth

13th March 2008, 14:11

the first step it to launch the d2v creator... load the first .vob (the others will be automatically selected). it will create a .d2v file and demux the audio stream(s).
then open the Avisynth script creator, load the .d2v and create the necessary script (crop, resize, filter as needed).
once the script is done, load the .avs and the audio in the main window and click autoencode... the rest is pretty easy.

arrirc

13th March 2008, 18:06

Thank you very much Sharktooth :)

alcatron

14th March 2008, 16:23

Hi guys,

I am running Windows Vista x64 with SP1 installed. Running the latest MeGui 0.3.0.0 , AviSynth 2.5.7 & .NET Framework 3.0.
Q6600, 4GB RAM

I have this issue when i load the AVS script select then select CEhigh Profile for encode, select MKV, and then when i click the "Auto Encode" button i get this error:

Megui encountered a fatal error and may not be able to proceed. Reason:Object reference not set to an instance of an object.

Any ideas? heres a screenshot
http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/7755/meguierrorti0.jpg

Thanks

Sharktooth

14th March 2008, 17:28

did you set an audio source?

arrirc

14th March 2008, 19:45

I am having a similar error whenever I press Auto Encode....:(

Here the error window

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/3159/meguierrorap0.png

And here is the window where you can see that both the Audio and Video sources are selected.

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/1066/meguisettingsoq4.png

I have confirmed that the demuxed audio source is available...

My OS is windows XP. The main source is a DVD's VIDEO_TS folder on my HDD.

:confused:

alcatron

15th March 2008, 03:26

well i was going to click auto encode then mux in a ac3 track, but i cant even get pass the auto encode button, i used this same process as windows xp, but vista is not liking it for some reason. any ideas?

alcatron

15th March 2008, 17:33

ok well i went back to meGUI 0.2.6.1045 and now it works just fine....damn strange its not working in 0.3.0.0

But everytime i open meGUI 0.2.6.1045 now pops up saying "Youre running meGUI on vista but to avoid several issues,may i ask you to upgrade your .net framework"

However .NET 3.5 is installed, i have done a encode and it works fine now why was 0.3.0.0 acting up :confused:

arrirc

15th March 2008, 19:48

I already have .NET ver 3.5 installed....and I'm still getting the error message :(

trooper11

15th March 2008, 21:26

unfortunateson

16th March 2008, 01:14

After updating Megui, the mp4 muxer fails to mux streams.
My error log says:

"Job not started. Reason: starting encoder failed with error 'This application has failed to start because the application configuration is incorrect. Reinstalling the application may fix this problem'"

Everything worked fine before the update.

TheLimp

16th March 2008, 09:52

Hi,

I got the exact same problem when I tried to MUX.

Job not started. Reason: starting encoder failed with error 'This application has failed to start because the application configuration is incorrect. Reinstalling the application may fix this problem'

Every thing was working fine but my PC was running a slow so I did a complete reinstall. There is a minimum of applications on my PC. I have installed the .net framework, megui 2 0.2.6.1044 and have updated it.

Another problem I have had since I did the reinstall is that the first pass now takes about 1h40 which is much more then it used to and also the 2nd pass is taking about 5h30 which is about 1h30 more. Even the Audio encode is taking longer

I am using turbo on the video encode options and automated pass. I read on this forum that this might have something to do with the subme value but it is set as 1 on the first and 6 on the second.

1ST PASS
Job commandline: "C:\Program Files\megui\tools\x264\x264.exe" --pass 1 --bitrate 873 --stats "C:\DVD\Highlander\VIDEO_TS\highlander.stats" --bframes 1 --direct auto --subme 1 --analyse none --me dia --threads auto --thread-input --sar 1:1 --progress --no-psnr --no-ssim --output NUL "C:\DVD\Highlander\VIDEO_TS\highlander.avs"

2ND PASS
Job commandline: "C:\Program Files\megui\tools\x264\x264.exe" --pass 2 --bitrate 873 --stats "C:\DVD\Highlander\VIDEO_TS\highlander.stats" --ref 5 --bframes 1 --b-rdo --direct auto --subme 6 --trellis 1 --analyse p8x8,b8x8,i4x4 --me umh --threads auto --thread-input --sar 1:1 --progress --no-psnr --no-ssim --output "C:\DVD\Highlander\VIDEO_TS\highlander.264"

This is my first post and I am a complete noob at video encoding so if I have posted this is the wrong place or asked an already answered question.. oppsss. Sorry about that and can you point me in the right direction :)

Cheers

TheLimp

16th March 2008, 21:00

Im having an issue with an encode that fails at the muxing step.

Once it starts that steps, it just hangs and shows as error in the que list. Checking the log, here is the error message:

-------------------

Starting job job4 at 3:54:25 PM

Starting preprocessing of job...

Preprocessing finished!

Job not started. Reason: starting encoder failed with error 'The application has failed to start because its side-by-side configuration is incorrect. Please see the application event log for more detail'

---------------------

let me know if any other info is needed. thanks.

I posted that I had the same problem among others but I have found a temp fix for this problem.. After the update MeGUI updates the MP4Box file to version 0.4.5 When I downloaded the 0.4.4 version everything worked fine. I have no idea why this is but I am sure someone else in the know can explain.

Hope this helps.

Sharktooth

17th March 2008, 13:58

I already have .NET ver 3.5 installed....and I'm still getting the error message :(
uninstall it and reinstall.

@all: yes, the mp4box in the update is b0rked. ill fix ASAP.

EDIT: done. please update.

APOLAUF

17th March 2008, 21:19

I am having difficulty with the "One Click Encoder" in meGUI when I enable Automatic Deinterlace. I know that this issue is supposedly fixed, but apparently that's not the case. When I open up a VOB, set a track, and then use my custom Zune H.264 profiles for AAC audio and x.264 simple-profile encoding, meGUI crashes after running dgindex right after this log entry:

MeGUI Version: 0.2.6.1044
OS used: Microsoft Windows Server 2003 Professional Service Pack 2
Framework used: 2.0 SP1
------------------------------------------------------

Looking for job processor for job...

Processor found!

------------------------------------------------------

Starting job job1 at 6:50:37 PM

Starting preprocessing of job...

Preprocessing finished!

successfully started encoding

Processing ended at 6:52:00 PM

------------------------------------------------------

Log for job job1

Job commandline: "C:\Program Files (x86)\megui\tools\dgindex\dgindex.exe" -SD=< -AIF=<C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\My Documents\rips\sp8-2\sp8-2-e-0.vob< -OF=<C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\My Documents\rips\sp8-2\Sp8-2-E-0< -exit -minimize -OM=1 -TN=1

------------------------------------------------------

Starting postprocessing of job...

Anyone know how to fix this? I'd really prefer not to encode everything to AVI to get around this - I would uncheck deinterlacing, but the stream definitely needs deinterlacing. One thing of note: The input VOB is one I've created as follows:

1. Extract VOBs from DVD, then concatenate them to one file, say sp8-1.vob.
2. Use VOBTool to analyze this file, and extract the episode segments into their own-sized VOBs. Note that these differ from the original VOBs.
3. Use 1-click encoder to load the segments and encode. They work great in AutoGK, but meGUI just can't handle it for whatever reason.

Is there a fix, or should I be extracting VOB data/structure differently for it to work?

trooper11

17th March 2008, 23:20

Well I ran an update on MeGui just a little while ago and then redid the encode, but its still failing at the muxing step.

The difference this time is that its not just hanging at the step, its throwing up a windows message stating that mp4box had failed, but amazingly enough, the process actually finished and the mp4 playsback fine.

So it seems to be fixed outside of mp4box crashing at the end of the job

~bT~

19th March 2008, 11:12

Just updated MeGUI with the Jarod's patched x264 build 763.
Can somebody provide a link for more info on this build pls? TIA.

Kurtnoise

19th March 2008, 11:15

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1114233#post1114233

~bT~

19th March 2008, 11:24

^ but i don't see info on Jarod's build. anyway, do you know what levels aq-strength & aq-sensitivity are set to?

carlo_0000

19th March 2008, 11:27

hi

i m olso have trouble sins i update megui 3.0

i restore to 2.6.1043 (exe only) but no change

i'm now unable to load .d2v files

olso they doen't play in mpc (canot render file)

i reinstalled AviSynth 2.5.7
and Helix YV12 codec
Framework used 2.0 (3.0 olso installed)

ok i resolve the probleme , i deleted the megui directory, and copy all from an other computer V 2.6.1045
no it works, i restor the megui 3.0 (exe only)

Sharktooth

19th March 2008, 13:18

^ but i don't see info on Jarod's build. anyway, do you know what levels aq-strength & aq-sensitivity are set to?
VAQ options are automatically set to strenght 0.5 and sensitivity 13 as in every other builds using VAQ patch.

~bT~

19th March 2008, 18:03

^ :thanks: so to override it i just add my own?

eg:

--aq-strength 0.7 --aq-sensitivity 5

rebkell

20th March 2008, 13:56

uninstall it and reinstall.

@all: yes, the mp4box in the update is b0rked. ill fix ASAP.

EDIT: done. please update.

Why is it necessary to uninstall and reinstall .NET 3.5? I just upgraded to SP1 on Vista Premium and now I'm getting the prompt to update my .NET stuff also. This is on the 0.3.0.x megui version.

Sharktooth

20th March 2008, 14:12

coz SP1 is borked.
Please uninstall .net 3.5 and reinstall it.

rebkell

20th March 2008, 14:51

coz SP1 is borked.
Please uninstall .net 3.5 and reinstall it.

Ok, dumb question of the day, how do you uninstall it?
Never mind: I didn't see it in the uninstall program list, I overlooked it the first time. Sorry

rebkell

20th March 2008, 15:46

Ok, dumb question of the day, how do you uninstall it?
Never mind: I didn't see it in the uninstall program list, I overlooked it the first time. Sorry

I just uninstalled the .net 3.5 Framework, and then followed the link that megui gave me, downloaded the 3.5 and then installed it, this only took about two minutes, I was thinking that the 3.5 .NET install took nearly an hour the last time. I had to go to work, and couldn't explore it anymore, but the install is a rather lengthy process isn't it?

rebkell

20th March 2008, 18:44

I just uninstalled the .net 3.5 Framework, and then followed the link that megui gave me, downloaded the 3.5 and then installed it, this only took about two minutes, I was thinking that the 3.5 .NET install took nearly an hour the last time. I had to go to work, and couldn't explore it anymore, but the install is a rather lengthy process isn't it?

Megui still prompts me to update my .NET after uninstalling and reinstalling it.

Sharktooth

20th March 2008, 19:41

that's weird. i think the installation went wrong.
however Vista SP1 is quite annoying since it causes many of those problems unless you streamline it into the installation DVD.

rebkell

20th March 2008, 19:57

that's weird. i think the installation went wrong.
however Vista SP1 is quite annoying since it causes many of those problems unless you streamline it into the installation DVD.

Other than the nag screen when I start up megui, will it really hurt if I don't get megui happy as far as the .net is concerned? I normally keep megui open on the PC anyway, so it's not a big deal, anyway.

Sharktooth

20th March 2008, 20:06

2.0SP1 is required to work correctly on Vista...

carlo_0000

21st March 2008, 23:45

:confused:

i got a new probleme now

sins i updated the megui

my computer crash when i play my last mkv's what i maked yesturday but not olways (with the old mkv there no probleme)

megui is update to 3.0, x264 olso update , and megui profiles

i m use coreavc codec
when i open 1 mkv (x264 + aac) i do a fast forward in the video

mpc hang, all the computer stop (exepted the mouse, i can still move it) (when i have alt-dvb open olso, i still have the sound)
after 1 minute, i get a bleu screen :confused:

but it don't crash everytime, i can correctly play the video when id don't crash

i m under xp pro , but have a dual boot, and it olso crash under vista

i notice thant it don't crash with powerdvd codec but it had some difficult to play it (hdtv video)

Sharktooth

22nd March 2008, 16:16

at this point i believe your system is unstable.
run some torture and stability tests (prime95, memtest86, etc...) overnight and check everything is ok.

APOLAUF

22nd March 2008, 20:00

Still having meGUI crash (completely) when I use 1-click encoder with Automatic Deinterlace checked on South Park episode VOBs. Any fix? See earlier post for log (which doesn't contain any useful information). OS is XP x64 SP2.

ggab

23rd March 2008, 00:23

OggEnc v2.84 (libvorbis aoTuVb5) (2007-08-17) (http://www.rarewares.org/ogg-oggenc.php) is out... why did megui do not update it to latest version?

C:\megui\tools\oggenc2>oggenc2.exe
OggEnc v2.83 (libvorbis aoTuVb4.51)
(c) 2000-2005 Michael Smith <msmith@xiph.org>
& portions by John Edwards <john.edwards33@ntlworld.com>

ERROR: No input files specified. Use -h for help.

PS: what about the new Oggenc2.85 using libVorbis v1.2.0 2008-03-16 ? does anybody use it?

EDIT:
Difference between libvorbis and aoTuVb? - Hydrogenaudio Forums (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=60473)
imre_herceg's wrote:
Since libvorbis 1.2.0 did not contain any quality improvements - see changelog at http://svn.xiph.org/trunk/vorbis/CHANGES - its release did not change the situation regarding which encoder is better (or best). Therefore aoTuV beta 5 is still to be regarded as best (producing the best quality) encoder.

Knuffi

23rd March 2008, 21:22

After installing Vista SP1:
MeGUI complains about updating .NET, but the log shows:
Framework used : 2.0 SP1

I had updated before and it worked without complaining (before SP1).

tomos

24th March 2008, 03:33

Megui still prompts me to update my .NET after uninstalling and reinstalling it.

same here.

installing .net 3.5 worked fine on 2 PCs but after SP1 megui doesnt seem to stop wanting to nag me.

arrirc

24th March 2008, 05:03

For me this worked:

Installed .NET 3.5 turning off the virus scanner and Firewall.
Cleaned the PC of Temp files using a free program named CleanUp in Standard Cleaning mode.
Restarted the PC
Ran a full update of MeGUI

and the problem was over....

Hope this helps...

rebkell

24th March 2008, 07:05

arrirc

24th March 2008, 14:10

Hello rebkell

Not sure, I know what a full update of MeGUI entails? Could you clarify that for me?

Just run Options> Update...:)

APOLAUF

25th March 2008, 01:49

meGUI crashes with 1-click encoder with Automatic Deinterlacing selected, seriously, nobody is having this problem? XP x64. Really frustrating as I'm having to use AutoGK for everything first.

I have latest, updated versions of all meGUI applications. The crash eventlog reads as follows:

"Faulting application megui.exe, version 0.2.6.1045, faulting module kernel32.dll, version 5.2.3790.4062, fault address 0x00022366."

Pirks

26th March 2008, 08:27

Two questions about MeGUI on Vista

1) How can I force MeGUI to run without UAC security prompt? Why does MeGUI require admin rights to run? Can anyone explain please?

2) Is there a way to force MeGUI to run on .Net 3.5 instead of .Net 2.0 SP1? It's using .Net 2.0 SP1 on my Vista x64 SP1 and it always complains that I have to update my .Net to 3.5. I updated it by uninstalling and reinstalling as it's been recommended here, and it does not help. Reinstalling and updating MeGUI itself doesn't help as well. How can I force MeGUI to run on .Net 3.5 so that it stops complaining about .Net 3.5 upgrade on Vista?

Kurtnoise

26th March 2008, 10:42

1) I think that it has been already answered. Use search...

2) Currently, MeGUI is compiled/build with the dotNet 2.0 components and it works fine with it. No need to change that for the moment...

For Vista users, the 2.0 SP1 is highly recommended (note that the installation of the FrameWork 3.5 upgrades also the 2.0). That's why we have the warning during the launch if it's not detected. In addition, Vista SP1 (not the FrameWork) release package has introduced a changing in the Framework versioning. That's why MeGUI complains but this has been fixed few days ago. So, just wait an update...

Pirks

26th March 2008, 16:07

1) I think that it has been already answered. Use search...I found this answer:

"right-click the MeGUI shortcut, go to compatibility, and check "Run this program as administrator." Vista will now ask you "cancel or allow" every time you start up MeGUI, but...it will now have the proper admin privileges it needs to run correctly"

So it seems MeGUI still needs admin privileges anyway, judging by this snswer.

But my question was WHY it needs admin privileges, it's only a media encoder! It is not supposed to run under admin, it's not a kernel security modding application or something, right?

Sharktooth

26th March 2008, 16:32

why why why why... ask M$ why...
vista sux and some operations require admin privileges... like writing a file in a user specified location...

Pirks

26th March 2008, 17:43

ask MS why.
some operations require admin privileges. like writing a file in a user specified location.Handbrake is a DVD->H.264 encoder as well, and it never asks for any admin privileges. You start it in Vista, it's up immediately and encoding in no time, without any UAC security prompts.

And believe it or not, Sharktooth - Handbrake also writes files in user specified location, without any security prompts!

To me it looks like MeGUI author got used to XP with its admin accounts everywhere and it's very hard for him (the author) to switch into a new Unix/Vista mentality where user accounts are not equal to admin accounts.

I'm going to cut the MeGUI author some slack, it takes time to adapt and such. We'll get the fix for the user account/UAC stuff eventually.

Your "MS sucks" attitude, Sharktooth, will only give you a couple of understanding smiles from technically literate people who understand what UAC is about, that's all. Try other media encoders like Handbrake, learn from it. Educate yourself, man :) Just a friendly advice.

Doom9

26th March 2008, 21:37

Pirks

26th March 2008, 23:05

Isn't handbrake self-contained? MeGUI has a lot of dependencies, some of which go deep into Windows (e.g. Avisynth.. to get certain AviSynth info you have to access the registry, and that requires certain privileges). Likewise..net access -> privileges, download (to the installation folder) -> privileges, and so it goes on. I'm sure if you have handbrake try to write into c:\program files or c:\windows, you'll meet UAC as well.Is it possible to detect that the user is going to install on Vista and then offer him/her to install in a user's home directory as for example uTorrent does these days? Sounds logical, doesn't it?

If you do this, then - surprise! - you will never ever need admin rights to update MeGUI again! Well, it's true at least for the purpose of writing updated executable/binary/library files when you do MeGUI update over the net. Dunno about Avisynth, it's a good point. Maybe it's actually Avisynth developers to blame, not you.

Yeah, Handbrake is self-contained, but my problem was that I couldn't understand why MeGUI needs admin rights and there was nothing in the docs, nothing in the installer's messages. I'd put a warning there if I were you. The warning should say that MeGUI is a special kind of encoder that is tightly integrated with Avisynth and because Avisynth is done in a certain not very Vista compatible way - MeGUI has to run under admin. Also, it makes sense to research an issue of running MeGUI under Vista as admin without security prompts, have a look at this: http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/window-on-windows/?p=635 <- do you think you can add this feature to MeGUI someday?

and the release date of version 0.9.2Yeah, Handbrake with UAC fix was released more than a month ago. So what? I told I'm going to cut you some clack. I'm not expecting you to work faster than Handbrake development team or something. I'm more interested in your attitude. Are you going to make MeGUI more user friendly on Vista or not? I'm going to bet you will be forced to even if you don't like the idea that Vista is now forcing people to stop being admins all the time and switch into normal Unix-like limited user accounts. I understand why people complain and whine all the time, it's hard to stop being admin, I must admit I went through that myself. It's also hard to grow from a child into adult and become responsive and stuff. So what? Are we going to stay in childhood forever? I understand your trouble with moving to Vista, guys, but it doesn't hurt to research the subject a little more before mindlessly posting "MS sucks". At least you should prove your point and explain why forcing users to be non-admins is a bad idea, why admin-always practices of XP are better? Without solid arguments I just call this attitude childish crap, pardon me for rudeness. I've seen so many "XXX sucks" posts without even a sign of a sensible arguments that sometimes I start getting doubts about humanity's intellectual level in general.

ask yourself why it has such a hard time in the enterprise marketWhy don't you ask yourself first why XP and Win2k and all Windows versions before that had such a hard time in the enterprise market as well, during their first couple of years after release?

From a resource and compatibility angle, Vista really gets its ass kicked by XP.You should have stayed with MS-DOS then. What are you doing here developing for Windows? MS-DOS kicked Windows ass from a resource and compatibility angle as well. Ask yourself this: why did you move from MS-DOS to Windows, and then why did you move to every next version of Windows after that? The previous versions of Windows were always more compatible and less resource hungry than newer versions, so you should have stayed there, somewhere in the last century. But you are here, on XP. I don't get it.

You get something for free, and for that price you don't buy the right to bitch.I haven't even started to bitch, precisely for the reason that MeGUI is opensource application. I'm just giving suggestions, you are free to ignore them and criticize me back, I don't mind. Tell me that I have to educate myself as well, and I'll gladly take your links or whatever you provided me with and read it, and get myself educated. What's so bad in that attitude? I never said something similar to what Sharktooth likes to say, something like "MeGUI sux sux sux, blah blah". You probably have to blame Sharktooth more than me, his points were made totally without argumentation, and some are even border on stupidity, such as "Vista requires admin rights to allow user to write in user's selected location" - what the duck is that?? I can't even criticize this kind of nonsense. He better start to express himself more precisely, 'cause this "XXX sux sux sux" stuff is only adding unnecessary noise here.

Doom9

26th March 2008, 23:57

Is it possible to detect that the user is going to install on Vista and then offer him/her to install in a user's home directory as for example uTorrent does these days?Hmm.. seems they integrated the installer while I'm on hiatus.. I never distributed the app other than a zip file - I still prefer it that way.. installers are more for the unskilled users - and the place I have megui, it would still work in Vista (the registry is a potential problem though). But here's an idea.. the installer has nothing to do with coding at all.. you don't need to be able to write a single line of C#.. so how about you look into updating the installer script with an OS detection and divert the default installation path to a directory under the user's home directory?

If I were active again, I wouldn't bother with the installer - I don't care about the stuff around the core software - I never liked creating installers - you spend a lot of time doing something that you could essentially do with an xcopy and it just takes away time you could spend doing something that actually challenges you. It's the same with GUIs for many programmers - writing core logic is a lot more fun - and being a volunteer project, you really cannot blame people for working on the parts they like to work on and ignoring the party they don't find suitably challenging.

You should have stayed with MS-DOS then.Why? The only OS upgrades I made that required significant hardware upgrades were W95 and W2k.. both significantly improved things. XP was an incremental upgrade that didn't really slow me down over W2K.. but Vista is in the same category like ME.. it adds bloat without really making things better? I'm willing to give more of my hardware (naturally both my boxes would have zero problems running Vista.. RAM could be 4GB but with a 8600gt and a 8800gt respectively, and a 2.66GHz dual / quad core) if it gives me something in return.. I just don't see the return of Vista over XP.

XP had limited user accounts - why do I need UAC? The only two things I find useful in Vista are the integrated .NET framework, and the ability to load drivers during installation from non floppy drives. The rest, I can do without, and so can many others. All those that refuse Vista don't do so because they hate MS, many weigh their options and decided that XP did the job just fine - it's stable, its resource hunger isn't too bad, there's drivers for pretty much any hardware.. it just works.

When I went from 3.1 to 95, the system was more stable - same for 98, same for 2000. XP was about the same as 2000 but had one major advantage: being targeted not only at businesses, it meant better hardware support - hence worthy of upgrading. Vista isn't more stable than XP, I don't get more hardware support - why should I upgrade? DirectX 10? Come on.. More DRM? A slower system? More eye candy (never could do anything with that.. and Vista's explorer is so different I could as well switch to Linux (I might have if multimedia was up to what we have on Windows.. and if there was a suitable replacement for OE when dealing with multiple accounts on the same server.. and if there was a replacement for DreamWeaver).
Sharktooth might put things more directly and without so much arguments, but basically, it boils down to the same - he doesn't see the point in upgrading, and neither do I (and neither does anybody of my friends and colleagues who knows something about computers). By any definition, I'm a high tech junkie and early adopter.. so if I do not upgrade, something must be very wrong (I even have a Vista Business DVD next to my XP Pro CD.. got it pretty much by the time Vista came out but I just never found the reason why I should swap out the OS.. the next reinstall is going to be a slipstreamed XP SP3).

I'm not against upgrading - not at all. If Vista were what it initially promised, built on a completely new and managed API, I'd be all over it and I'd bit the resource hog bullet (did you see Singularity? I find that idea awsome and hope we'll go into that direction one day), but I need reasonable value for an upgrade and with Vista, I just don't see it.

Pirks

27th March 2008, 03:24

installers are more for the unskilled usersAh, so MeGUI is not designed for unskilled users, it's targeted more at the tech professionals, seasoned encoders/video editors and similar highly experienced video encoding experts. This changes picture quite a bit. If we take this target market of MeGUI into account then yes, I agree, there is not a lot of reason to bother with Vista.

If I were active againWho's developing MeGUI right now instead of you?

it adds bloat without really making things betterHow about forcing users out of the admin chair and putting them into the much more appropriate limited user's seat? You don't consider this an improvement?

I just don't see the return of Vista over XPObviously you don't understand advantages of 64-bit computing where Vista x64 is definitely the way to go, not the XP x64 for sure. You never experienced application crashes because of the stupid 2GB virtual address space limit in XP. Fair enough, you're not in the target group of the Vista users yet. You enjoy always being admin, you hate working under limited user account and you have never heard of applications or games crashing because of 2GB limit (S.T.A.L.K.E.R., Supreme Comamnder, MATLAB and Crysis are the examples that immediately come to mind). Good for you.

XP had limited user accounts - why do I need UAC?
Because XP doesn't care if you are always admin, any user can became admin there and XP just doesn't care, in fact it encourages users to be admins. You need UAC as a tool that punishes people for staying admin all the time. Of course you don't like it because you love being admin, that's totally understandable. But you will be kicked out of the admin chair eventually, no kicking and yelling at stupid Vista is going to help, because it's not about Vista, it's about industry-wide trend in providing more secure work place by default (out of the box as they say)

Vista isn't more stable than XPDid you notice that video driver crashes that killed XP now cause only a slight pause in Vista, followed by a message that video driver has crashed and was restarted by kernel? Did you notice that audio stack was moved from kernel into the user space? Are you pretending to be blind because you didn't know this or because you didn't WANT to know?

I don't get more hardware supportThen how come many modern notebooks (from Sony for example) have no XP drivers, only Vista ones?

Vista's explorer is so different I could as well switch to LinuxSwitching from one different explorer to another ALSO DIFFERENT explorer just for the sake of switching?

if I do not upgrade, something must be very wrongI put it another way - if you MeGUI developers let the Handbrake guys to pass you and come out with Vista compatible encoder faster than you - then indeed something is very wrong.

If Vista were what it initially promised, built on a completely new and managed APIThen you would be yelling and swearing at MS MUCH MUCH MORE THAN YOU DO NOW, for selling us such a painful unbelievably slow "advanced" crap that's 100% .Net pureness but also the 100% .Net slowness

did you see Singularity? I find that idea awsome and hope we'll go into that direction one dayHuh, I can imagine how Sharktooth is going to swear THEN, if he starts going off even after slight modifications over his beloved "100% perfect forever and ever" Windows XP.

You guys should not even think about ever touching new OS releases from MS, since they are going to depart from your beloved XP more and more, and Singularity would be a total curse and blasphemy for you guys, you'd hate it much more than anything else in the world probably.

APOLAUF

27th March 2008, 06:28

Ah, nothing like a good flamewar. All this notwithstanding, I, as a user of XP x64 and Vista alike, think that everyone here has valid points. However, I do have a legitimate question about meGUI's crash in XP x64 during the 1-click encode process. I find meGUI to be a wonderful program, the first encoder to actually use 100% of all my system resources, and not make me spend hours writing scripts or creating poor copies.

However, I'm bummed that I cannot directly convert VOB files, as it faults in kernel32.dll whenever I select automatic deinterlacing. Is there anyone that can help with this problem? I'd love to skip all the intermediate steps that I'm having to do to get around it.

Sharktooth

27th March 2008, 15:15

@pirks: we're not competing against anyone.
we just do what we can. if you want you can contribute, if you cant, then you have to either accept what we can do or just not use our software.
however, just in case you missed it, some other Vista fixes were added in the latest stable release... but still admin rights are required by MeGUI and some other softwares used by MeGUI, so... im sorry that "limitation" cant be avoided. Just run it as Admin and disable the useless UAC. If the Vista (and in general all windows versions) user security model is buggy and user enemy, we cant fix it for them (M$)...

Pirks

27th March 2008, 18:10

Sharktooth, I'm not really sure that Windows UAC is user enemy. I would have believed that if I saw ABSOLUTELY EVERY video encoder asking for admin rights. For now only MeGUI is the one who wants to be admin, other video encoders I use do not want it. Guess what? From my point of view, as a user, it's MeGUI or whatever is inside it is user enemy, not UAC.

It's just a simple logic, isn't it? If one piece of software encodes video under limited user account, and the other requires admin rights - who's to blame? The answer is obvious.

I'm not saying here that you or Doom9 or anyone on MeGUI dev list is to blame, maybe it's the other modules you depend on are to blame, Avisynth maybe or something else. What is important here is that from the point of view of the user MeGUI looks like a single software package, and something somewhere inside of this package is screwed up and requires admin rights for something it should not.

It would be a good idea to mention the culprit in your documentation somewhere. Just write what is the piece of software that forces you to ask admin privileges. Avisynth is one piece that Doom9 mentioned already, maybe there are other modules implemented like that.

It's actually important thing to reveal such an info in your documentation. It gives your users insight into the problem. So the next time somebody gets annoyed by admin privilege requests from MeGUI - he or she can get right at the root of the problem and understand it. So they won't come here askng why the heck it wants admin rights just to encode one small video clip. You'll save your own time in future by mentioning this stuff somewhere in a help screen or in README or something

Sharktooth

27th March 2008, 18:17

why? there is NO problem in running a software with admin rights... every windows user did it until Vista... plus megui is opensource and based on many other open source softwares (that means you can check what they're doing by reading the sources).
so i cant understand what you're concerned about... you're even using a "closed" source OS that does so much "dirty" things you cant even imagine...

stax76

27th March 2008, 19:05

Only problem I see is AviSynth defaults the plugin dir to the programs dir so other apps can't install plugins without admin privilegs. As workaround for the AviSynth issue I'll add code to the installer moving the plugin dir to a better place or if AviSynth isn't installed already setting the location in the registry though I don't know if the AviSynth installer would overwrite that.

Pirks

27th March 2008, 20:39

Sharktooth, there is a problem in ideology. If you want secure personal computer - you have to agree to stop being root or admin all the time. It's a security thing, it's a generic idea that came from Unix world and is now adopted by Windows developers as one of the primary methods to battle malware/trojans and crap like that. This idea has NOTHING to do with Vista, so you have to stop bashing Vista because you're targeting the wrong spot here. If you don't like Vista UAC - you have to look at the source of the problem and ask all the industry security experts, who always recommend running under limited user, not under admin.

So if you wanna bash Vista - please bash all the security researchers who according to your logic are stupid enough to force users to stay under limiyed accounts as much as possible. It is their fault, not Microsoft's.

I don't give a damn about whether the source is open or not. The only thing that matters is whether the product was developed properly or not. Opensource project that requires admin rights for simple things like video encoding is much more dangerous than closed source project that works well under limited user account. Why so? Because if somebody finds a vulnerability/exploit in your open source project, then THE WHOLE SYSTEM is compromised, because the flawed code runs under admin privileges and can do anything. But if the closed source project had a vulnerability, then the potential threat is much smaller, because it runs in a sandbox of a limited user account and only can do so much of a damage. Got it?

stax, are you talking about requiring admin privileges only for INSTALLING MeGUI, or is about runninig it after installation? Asking for admin rights when installing application and when it is necessary because user for example specifically wants it to be installed in a system controlled directory like Program Files - this is one thing which is acceptable. Asking admin rights just to RUN the application every time is a very bad thing unless it's forced by some poorly designed code you rely on (such as Avisynth), but even in this case it's very important to let the user know that you designed secure software that can easily run in a sandbox, but you have such and such dependenies, and if user wants to talk with the authors of the poorly designed software which you depend on - here's the link for you.

So you are following the right path here, thanks. It would be a great asset for MeGUI if it was specifically informing users when necessary about some hard to overcome dependencies and sending those users to the proper forum where they could discuss with Avisynth (or whatever else) developers all their issues and such

Pirks

27th March 2008, 21:37

Sharktooth, did you just send me a private message signed by "the moderation team"?

bond, did you do this? Most likely it was you, since you're the moderator here

I can't reply to you both because your private message boxes are over the quota, so I sent reply to Doom9 if you are interested. Thanks.

P.S. I don't like talking to anonymous posters, but those accusations were worth replying to ;)

Sharktooth

27th March 2008, 22:10

Unix user security model is COMPLETELY different from Vista.
In a certain sense M$ took the concept of unix user security model, reworked it making it worse and implemented something completely useless and annoying for the user.
UAC is not a security feature but a user limitation. It doesnt prevent software to run with elevated privileges. It does only prevent the user to make a software run with admin privileges. That difference is the culprit of the UAC "uselessness".
UAC doesnt protect the system nor your data from malicious softwares, it protects the system from the user but gives the user the key to bypass the protection. Quite useless, dont you think?
Hope i helped you understand...
Oh, i didnt send you any PM. My PM is always full by purpouse.

Pirks

27th March 2008, 23:06

UAC doesn't prevent software to run with elevated privileges. It does only prevent the user to make a software run with admin privileges.There's no difference. If you prevent user from running software with admin privileges - you automatically prevent software from running with admin privileges. These are identical things, because software can't run by itself, it's always the user who runs it.
UAC doesnt protect the system nor your data from malicious softwares, it protects the system from the user but gives the user the key to bypass the protection.Consider this situation: at my workplace on my office PC I work under Vista's limited user account, and I don't know the admin password. I run some software which requires admin privileges, and Vista asks me for a password. But Vista NEVER gives me this password. I have to call admin and talk to him. Hence your statement "Vista gives the user the key" above is a lie, and you don't know how Vista UAC works.
Quite useless, dont you think?I think you should learn about how UAC works. Spend some time working under Vista limited user account on a machine which is administered by someone else, so that you don't know the admin password, then come back and try again to sell me the story about how Vista tells you all the admin passwords. That should be funny.
Hope I helped you understandHope that I gave you some incentive to go and learn more about what is UAC and how it works.
I didn't send you any PMThis must have been bond then.
My PM is always full by purpose.bond's is full either. Looks like I will have to reply to bond's accusations here in the forum, since he purposefully doesn't allow to use PM to contact him.