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Jack'n'xbox
16th June 2005, 14:23
:D
Hell of a job guys. I just finished multiple tests with your product and was quit happy with the results. I’m happy to send you a donation for a job well done. Now if we could get the encoding times down it would be great.
One happy camper
Jacknxbox
:D :D
jptheripper
16th June 2005, 19:39
i got my encoding times way down.
I bought a dell xps 3.73ghz p4 extreme with 4gb ram :) and dual sata's
feedback
16th June 2005, 22:35
I bought a dell xps 3.73ghz p4 extreme with 4gb ram
Man, you are flyin' with that rig!
About how long does it take to encode, with that rig, on a 2 hour movie only setting
with HC or QuEnc.? (Normal/Default Settings)
Regards,:)
jptheripper
16th June 2005, 23:22
i only use cce. 24hours or so for a 10 pass (wanted to see) with filters
non filtered 4 pass (what i normally do ) is down to 3 hours or so
Jack'n'xbox
17th June 2005, 00:18
Man is that the only way. I have a 2 gig and the dvd took almost 10 hours
brashquido
17th June 2005, 01:53
Hi Jack'n'xbox,
That's the comprimise with an encoder rathr than a transcoder. A transcoder simply compresses the DCT data (only I frames I believe) leaving all the motion vectors as per the original, which is not very accurate and results in poor quality with even moderate compression. The up side being that it is very quick as calculating all the motion vectors is a very CPU intensive task.
This is the advantage of re-encoding as both the DCT and motion vector data are compressed (I, P & B frames) giving you MUCH higher quality results at much greater compression levels. Down side is that being very CPU intensive it's basically an overnight job unless you have a pretty beefy computer. You can do a single pass encode and I believe that the quality is still meant to be quite good with CCE, but from what I've read the end filesize tends to be a little less accurate than doing multipass.
brashquido
17th June 2005, 01:56
Of course the other option is you could just use rejig with DVD-RB which is just a transcoder that will give you much more speed. Personally I think that voids much of the bueaty of DVD-RB as you are no longer getting the same end quality.
Jack'n'xbox
17th June 2005, 02:04
Of course the other option is you could just use rejig with DVD-RB which is just a transcoder that will give you much more speed. Personally I think that voids much of the bueaty of DVD-RB as you are no longer getting the same end quality.
Sorry, no can do. I'm a perfectionist. I'll stick with CCE.
Thankx for the insight.
jdobbs
17th June 2005, 12:32
I'm still trying to figure out why some people are getting those long processing times... here are some suggestions (strictly my opinion).
1. Keep the passes down to 2 for typical, or 3 for hard-to-compress DVDs. The improvements for more than 3 passes (that's 3 as listed in DVD-RB) is negligible.
2. Keep your hard drive defragmented. This is probably the biggest impediment to speed. DVDs are huge, and the hard drive really gets exercised.
3. If you have the luxury, create a separate partition for video processing. That way it can stay clean between encodes and significantly speed processing.
4. It is highly recommended that you have at least 512MB of RAM. CCE gobbles up memory and when you start hearing constant disc swapping you know it will be a long encode.
5. Try batch mode while you are sleeping rather than running in the background. The program really enjoys having the computer to itself... encodes really get stretched when you are running other programs at the same time. When CCE is running it will use 100% of the CPU...
On my video system which isn't a Ferrari by any stretch, (Athlon 3200+, 512MB 3200 DDR, 250GB 7200rpm disc) I can usually run three-four jobs overnight in batch mode... most take 2-3 hours. Of course most people won't be encoding that much (I have to do a lot of testing), but it is possible.
Edsel
17th June 2005, 20:30
Speaking of testing, is there some quick and easy testing method I'm missing?
Let's say I have a disk, and I want to see how it would look untouched, or with this filter, or that filter, etc. I want to just do a segment, without doing the entire thing. I can't just blank out most of it leaving my test part, because that will change the space available, etc.
My current method of doing a three hour encode each is really getting old.
Rockas
17th June 2005, 21:07
Speaking of testing, is there some quick and easy testing method I'm missing?
Let's say I have a disk, and I want to see how it would look untouched, or with this filter, or that filter, etc. I want to just do a segment, without doing the entire thing. I can't just blank out most of it leaving my test part, because that will change the space available, etc.
My current method of doing a three hour encode each is really getting old.
If you want to make a test with only one segment to test filters you just have to load the .avs file into the encoder and run it.
If you want to test withthe Rebuilder's calculated bitrate (and filters) you'll have to copy the section of the segment you want from the .ecl file (on you working path) and make a new ecl file - assuming you're using CCE - and load it with CCE - don't forget to copy the header too....
Remember... don't change anything on your rebuilder's original ECL file or else... you're on your own :)
Edsel
18th June 2005, 01:56
Ok, thanks for steering me in the right direction. The second method is what I'm looking for, I'll see what I can figure out by tinkering.
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