WinDVD 7 H264 support

[daldrum]

Has anyone tried the new WinDVD player, it is supposed to have full support for H264. Just interested if this includes encodes made by Recode (including subs).

[Kurtnoise]

Not full support for h264, only Main profile if we look on the changelog :

New in WinDVD7

Audio Center
WinDVD 7 provides users with a mixture of unprecedented audio effects that creates dynamic and breathtaking audio environment.
• InterVideo Hall Effect Sydney, Chicago, Broadway theatre — get the privilege without a ticket!
• High-Definition Audio
• Home Theater Speaker Control

Video Center
Utilizing advanced motion video technology, WinDVD 7 produces exceptional detailed and high quality video playback presentation.
• TrimensionDNM Advanced smoother video quality in low resource demand
• Universal Player supports Real Player files, Quick Time files, Windows Media files, DivX 5.2 Pro, HD Audio, MPEG-4 AVC H.264 Main Profile, 3GPP/3GPP2, & WMV-HD files.

Media Sharing
WinDVD 7 supports all DVD/video/audio in any format to provide users with less frustration in media compatibility so users are left with just enjoying their movie playback.
• UPnP player (plays video from Universal Plug & Play CE device)
• Share video content on mobile device
• Share video content with iPod, PDA, PMP, mobile phone

Digital TV Content Support
Designed for the sophisticated users who have recorded Digital TV/Radio program files.
• Navigate MPEG2-TS (MPEG2 Transport Stream) content
• Playback MPEG2-TS content
• MPEG2/4 AAC content playback

Entertaining Features
Movie enthusiasts have several options to make their movie experience fun and entertaining.
• QuickClip2
• Music Visualization
• Mobile Technology

btw, I didn't tested this new player...

[daldrum]

Ok, thanks, I overlooked this info, in this case I can forget about the 38 MB installation file.

[Rash]

I don't think there is any player supporting High Profile yet. Am I right? As far as I know, not even a HP encoder is out. :)

[video]

Rash you are right

[jfehr]

I'm pretty sure Nero's ShowTime supports HP decoding.

[JoeBG]

I'm pretty sure Nero's ShowTime supports HP decoding.

I always have stutterings with the Nero Filter

[Rash]

When did this WinDVD 7 come out?

[video]

When did this WinDVD 7 come out?
some days before

[Mc Onyx]

Well about HP Profile Encoder, X264 has HP options, but not all of them i think!

[bond]

very interesting, thanks!

seeing it from the decoder point of view: anyone knowing what decoder they use (meaning from what company)? does windvd have any special relations to a company like sorenson, moonlight or mainconcept?

i also find it interesting that they mention 3gpp/3gpp2 support, cause .3gp is pretty much the same as .mp4, so i could guess that they support avc-in-mp4 too, which would mean that they support avc .mp4 files as for example encoded by nero or qt7, gonna check this out more closely

[Kurtnoise]

I've made quick tests this afternoon...

seeing it from the decoder point of view: anyone knowing what decoder they use (meaning from what company)?
There is no information about that in the h264 dshow filter...:-/ But I read in required Software (http://www.intervideo.com/jsp/WinDVD_Download.jsp) that WinDVD7 Platinum needs QuickTime, RealPlayer, WMP... :eek:

i also find it interesting that they mention 3gpp/3gpp2 support, cause .3gp is pretty much the same as .mp4, so i could guess that they support avc-in-mp4 too, which would mean that they support avc .mp4 files as for example encoded by nero or qt7, gonna check this out more closely
tested with 2 samples (x264 video only embedded in mp4) and a other mp4 (one x264 video stream and 2 audios streams), the video is stuttered and audio is pretty jerkly in my config... :scared:

[MeridiusUK]

i tried windvd7 playes the sound but no picture and i encoded it with mainconcept


no picture just blank but i can hear the sound ???? anyone know why

[bond]

the decoder included is the one from videosoft (aka vss)

Kurtnoise13, can you check what parser/splitter filter is used with .mp4?

[MeridiusUK]

hi all having problems playing AVC/H.264 movies som work some are just audio this is becasue there are diffrent types AVC/H.264 and i can play the quicktime (.mp4) versions of AVC/H.264 but i can ot play the (mpg) AVC/H.264 versions justt the audo no picture so can someone help

now i have quicktime 7 installed which uses which do play
mp4: which is the container of AVC defined in the MPEG-4 Standard (ISO 14496-15) and supported by Nero, Sorenson, Envivio, Moonlight and x264 atm


but when i encode with mainconcept it saves it as this
.mpg: which is the container of AVC defined in the MPEG-2 Standard (ISO 13818-1, AMD3) and supported by Mainconcept and Moonlight atm

which i can not play only audio do you know how i can make it work ???

[bond]

propably the player simply doesnt support avc-in-mpg

[Rash]

I did some tests and it won't play my NeroDigital .mp4 files. Wasn't MP4 supposed to be a standard, so everything compatible to it would play it with no problems? ;)

At least QuickTime 7 would play my NeroDigital files (a little too heavy, but that's a start, could be QT's decoder that isn't optmized yet).

[bond]

I did some tests and it won't play my NeroDigital .mp4 files. Wasn't MP4 supposed to be a standard, so everything compatible to it would play it with no problems? ;)
write intervideo a hatemail that it didnt work

[Rash]

OK then, better be their fault indeed! :D But I was wondering, did anyone else tested mp4 files on it? I just wanted to know if it was an isolated problem.

My NeroDigital mp4 files play alright on QuickTime 7. They are just not as butter smooth as in any other player I have. But nothing that an optimization can't do. :)

[Kurtnoise]

the decoder included is the one from videosoft (aka vss)
indeed... ;)

Kurtnoise13, can you check what parser/splitter filter is used with .mp4?
[Edit]How can check this under WinDVD ? huh...

More tests in progress...

[bond]

[Edit]How can check this under WinDVD ? huh...
no idea, but as it seems to be dshow based the windvd filters might also get used in other players once you install it

i woul test it myself but it always crashes here :(

[Kurtnoise]

I tested and I suppose it's the qt splitter which is used in WinDVD for the mp4 playback. I deleted all mp4 splitters that I had (haali, nero, ateme) and the playback works directly with this player whereas with graphedit I couln't render the files. Hope this helps.

[bond]

what happens when you uninstall quicktime?

[Kurtnoise]

it doesn't play the files...;)

[bond]

lol, i dont get it how they can offer a 3gp parser filter, but dont make it support .mp4. those two containers are as good as the same...

[DeepDVD]

Don't know what's the problem is. NeroDigital-AVC in MP4-container works as good as Showtime. I recognized heavy delocking on the playback. Might be my 400 kbps-Videofile though. ;)

But I have problems playing DVDs on WinDVD. I get no sound. AVIs and another codecs run properly... with sound.
Someone also got that problem?