Blanking VTS's using dif4u and scenaid ??

[ViDi0t]

Hi

I am using dif4u 1.4.7.0 and scenaid 1.6 and batchCCEWS 0.9.1.5

The DVD has 4 VTS's that I want to blank (VTS 2,3,4,& 5) These VTS arent selected by default in dif4u, so I select them. Then in scenaid, I de-select them to blank them. After encoding and reauthoring, when i play the DVD, those VTS's play with a black screen for whatever length of time they originally were.

When i look at the dummy files in Track Editor of CCE, the dummy files have the original file lenght however i can change that length to .4 seconds.

Is it normal to have to edit the dummy file length in CCE before re-authoring? Am i using the correct procedure to blank these VTS's? Is there a better way to blank these VTS's?

Thanks

Cheers

[Angelus]

Whenever i want to blank out a vts i just use pcgedit. All you have to do with that is open up the corresponding video_ts folder and then find the vts you want, right click on it and select blank out all vts titles. Then make sure to save the dvd and your set, all though with this method you should uncheck these vts's in dif4u so they are copied into the video_ts folder. more can be read about the program here:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=90960

hope this helps a little, sorry about my crappy writing, it's to type while in a sling

[D3s7]

the options in scenaid weren't really meant to blank out entire VTS sets... we the big3 authors somewhat term that "Butchering" and you probably won't get much support..

That being said, yes, when scenaid dummies a section or asset, the scenes that asset made up are created as slideshows using the same duration as the original... there's many ways to change that but the easist would be to use pgcedit and just skip the vts's in question or "kill playback" of them

[Pike007]

@D3s7

I've sorted out my problems I had while trying to do the menu's (with Zeul's help) for Spiderman2. I have deleted the "Previews" button in my menu (with NuMenu) and want to keep only the remaining movie related stuff only. I'm trying to use CCE basic, DIFU, NuMenu, Scenaid, BatchCCE or Batchencode, and finally Muxman for all of my backups. I know butchering is butchering no matter what parts you cut out, but with CCE basic the higher the bitrate, the better the overall job it does. If I can get a decent bitrate (around 3000) I really can't tell the difference from CCE SP Trial. I can tell the difference from $58.00 and $1,950 though...

Actually, removing the audio (Non-English tracks for me) in way is also butchering, but is quite neccessary.

Anyway, I'm really interested in knowing what you think about this (under these circumstances) and if Scenaid will ever possibly blank titles out in the future?

I plan to start Spiderman 1 and 2 as soon as I can get some free time. I've been trying to do this movie for over a year now (on and off) without any success --due to my Bov noobieness--, and really, I just want to be able to complete this with these great tools. I've read jel's "Beginner's guide to Bov" and have a far better understanding now (thank's jel).

[jel]

hey pike007,

the latest pre-beta release of scenaid defaults to minimum frame duration for 'removed/blanked' assets, so if your using muxman to author, you will no longer see large segments of blank video if you dummy an asset.
so .. if you can be patient, i am sure a new VIP release will be soon (ish).
another tact is to post process these assers with pgcedit or vobblanker.
if you are still using scenarist, it is a simple process to manually change the dummied assets duration to 12/15 frames in the track editor prior to compiling.

in regards to ccebasic/ccesp, i was under the impression that the programs were virtually identical execpt for number of passes and some additional options ... i could be wrong though.

and finally onto BoV and the infamous spiderman. :D
well .. when i wrote that guide, scenaid was still in its infancy. these days it is a fully featured heavyweight, and to re-author this movie takes very little skill at all. you can still try the manual way if you like but its a slooooow process ... but ultimately rewarding.
i recently used a beta version of scenaid/muxman 0.15 to re-author Hellboy, which has an even more complicated BoV extras than spiderman, coupled with a 'storyboard' subtitle stream which was previously impossible to re-author correctly ... but not now :cool:
came out absolutely perfectly without any user input ! very sweet indeed.

rock on
j

[D3s7]

@D3s7
Anyway, I'm really interested in knowing what you think about this (under these circumstances) and if Scenaid will ever possibly blank titles out in the future?


I really can't tell the difference from CCE SP Trial. I can tell the difference from $58.00 and $1,950 though...


No... not in the way you are referring to.... the current public release of scenaid allows you to "remove" content replacing it with a blank still (duration = to cell duration) and the new private beta changes that to duration = min duration (12/15 frames depending on Pal/NTSC)

Yes it can probably be used to blank out an entire VTS set however, it was never really designed for that purpose and won't ever be supported for that purpose... If you want to blank out an entire VTS, vobblanker or other utils work far better for that


there are a few posts that tells the differences between CCE basic and SP but there are actually quite a few..

Basic only allows so many chapters and only so many passes I believe. The templates are limited as well to only multipass vbr (roba isn't possible)

I belive the GOP settings are fixed as well in basic

edit: here's one such thread about it http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=76527&highlight=cce+basic+versus

appears Basic doesnt' allow any chapters (forced i-frame) which is VERY important when encoding for BoV... the newer batch encoders will probably split by cell and encode that way w/ Basic (basically cell encode) which loses some of the advantages of encoding the other way

[Pike007]

jel, your post inspired me. Just because of that, I bought Hellboy today so I could give it a try....and I also like the movie too. :D

D3s7, thanks for your reply. Will check out pgcedit as well. I had no idea about that info regarding Basic and SP (in fact, I didn't even think of doing a search about the differences, sorry). Thanks for the link. This could be why I could never get Spiderman to work properly. I will give SP Trial version a try.

[jel]

hey Pike007,

he he ... be warned ... it can become addictive :D

two things though.
when your blanking out unwanted material (trailers etc) be careful not to remove any of the bov referenced extras. particularly with hellboy, they are all over the place.
and ...
when i wrote the guide for spiderman, it was pre-scenaid days, and as a result, would not have had corect chapter placements ... so ... if you feel like getting a better understanding of the process, you could still use ccebasic and that guide to reauthor spiderman .... although using scenaid and ccesp would certainly be a lot easier ....
if you decide to try spiderman manually, and you run into any problems, i would be more than happy to offer assistance ... i am usually online during work hours :sly: :p

rock on
j

[D3s7]

now that you have the latest beta too.. if your using muxman I'd HIGHLY recommend using the .sup support

makes BoV MUCH MUCH nicer

[jel]

pffffttt ... there you go again, taking all the fun out of things, d3s7 :p

but i agree ... in fact it is a necessity as far as hellboy is concerned. it would be far too time consuming to try and recreate those storyboard subs in scenarist ... trust me, i tried ... and quickly gave up! :D

[Pike007]

Thank's guy's,

Going to do Spiderman (without cutting anything out in order to elimate all self-inflicted grief) since this movie has kicked my ass far too long....

I'll be using Muxman .15b and I'm quite sure I'll have questions. The "search" button is going to become my close friend.